2020-21 NHL Trade Deadline: Presented by 'Mad Money with Jim Cramer'

[Sod16]

Yeah, they'd be more conservative if they only need the single point.

 

To the contrary, they play conservatively in the third period to preserve ties, knowing that they can go for the win in OT while still getting a point, whereas, if they take risks in a tie game in regulation, they may end up with no points. Statistically, there are far more regulation ties now than pre-2005 (introduction of loser point) and 1983 (introduction of overtime). That's due to conservative play.

[RJWantsTheCup]

I remember how so many teams use to just play for the 1 point before overtime.

The last 10 minutes was all clutching and grabbing.

Don't want to see that shit again.

[Ozzy]

To the contrary, they play conservatively in the third period to preserve ties, knowing that they can go for the win in OT while still getting a point, whereas, if they take risks in a tie game in regulation, they may end up with no points. Statistically, there are far more regulation ties now than pre-2005 (introduction of loser point) and 1983 (introduction of overtime). That's due to conservative play.

 

Bingo!!!

 

Thanks Sod! I couldn't find the stats. :)

[Ozzy]

Getting down to the wire here on the TDL....1:15 to go, and it's been kinda slow.

[Ozzy]

Just saw the one Xander posted:

 

Vegas Golden Knights: Mattias Janmark, 2022 fifth-round pick

Chicago Blackhawks: 2021 second-round pick, 2022 third-round pick

San Jose Sharks: 2022 fifth-round pick

[Cash or Czech]

We have acquired Carl Soderberg from Chicago.

 

Two low level prospects in return.

 

Avs get Soderberg. Chicago gets Josh Dickinson and Ryder Rolston.

[Bugg]

I hate 3v3 or the shootout as well. As you say it is gimmicky and to me, not natural hockey(when was the last time you saw 3v3 in a real game?). It becomes a skills competition.

 

Go 4v4 with two 5 minute sudden death periods for OT. Nobody scores, it’s a tie. And STOP giving a point for regulation ties. Two points awarded for each game, period.

 

 

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The extra point disfigures the standings. A game should be a standard value in the standings how ever it ends. OT or the shootout should not make a game worth an extra point. If they want to award an extra point, make a 60 minute regulation with worth 3 points.

[NYR2711]

Honestly, I'd rather go back to OT just being in the playoffs, and if it's a tie after 60, fuck it...it's a tie. One point apiece.

 

I'm not a big fan of the gimmicky 3v3 or shootout shit either.

 

I don’t mind the 3v3, hate shootouts. I agree though, go back to the ties.

[Ozzy]

I don’t mind the 3v3, hate shootouts. I agree though, go back to the ties.

 

Think about it...Last night would've felt so much different if it just ended 2-2. It felt like a loss to the Rangers, who played a great second, and stuck with a tough team in the 3rd to EARN a tie and a point. After the OT it felt like a loss, and even though we still get a point, it's still feeling like we "lost"...because we did!

 

I just think it's a different feel if both teams get a point, and we go our separate ways.

 

OT playoffs are better because they're 5v5. The regular season 3v3 is useless, in my opinion because other than deciding a game, it's not like you get any experience for anything like a playoff OT.

[Sharpshooter]

TSN TradeCenter is reporting that Sam Bennett is headed to the Panthers, nothing about what Calgary will get back yet.

[Parsley]

I don’t mind the 3v3, hate shootouts. I agree though, go back to the ties.

 

Yeah, a few years ago I started turning off games at the end of OT before the shootout (perhaps occasionally I'll stick around for one if the team has made a big comeback, etc). To me that's where the game ends. Haven't watched a shootout live in quite a while. Sure I'll check the "final score" 10-15 minutes thereafter but I loathe the shootouts at this point.

[The Dude]

...that cap can be very useful if used correctly though ;)

 

On what? It's going to have to be banked to sign Zibanejad and what ever kids are coming up on their 2nd contracts. Time to lock up Fox and Buch. That space is gone right there.

[Ozzy]

On what? It's going to have to be banked to sign Zibanejad and what ever kids are coming up on their 2nd contracts. Time to lock up Fox and Buch. That space is gone right there.

 

The kids, Fox and Buch will be RFA status, so that's somewhat "cost controlled"...I'd think Buch is also headed for arbitration this season.

 

I also don't think those kids are breaking the bank when the time comes....

 

Let's see what Zibby does next season, because he didn't exactly UP his value much this year.

 

The contracts we need to unload are Trouba's and Kreider's. That would be a massive bonus. I believe that their NMC's become MODIFIED NMC's after a number of years, I just don't know what season that is.

 

Phil, Josh or RG may know that one.

[Ozzy]

TSN TradeCenter is reporting that Sam Bennett is headed to the Panthers, nothing about what Calgary will get back yet.

 

Here it is Sharpy:

 

Calgary Flames: 2022 second-round pick, Emil Heineman

Florida Panthers: Sam Bennett, 2022 sixth-round pick

[Ozzy]

Also got this one:

 

Philadelphia Flyers: 2022 seventh-round pick (Philadelphia retains 50% of Gustafsson’s cap hit.)

Montreal Canadiens: Erik Gustafsson

[The Dude]

It'd be nice to see the Rangers try to get a faceoff guy. At this point you waive Howden.

[The Dude]

Here it is Sharpy:

 

Calgary Flames: 2022 second-round pick, Emil Heineman

Florida Panthers: Sam Bennett, 2022 sixth-round pick

 

Damn. If only the Rangers needed a middle 6 center. Bennett will turn it around where ever he lands and should continue being a playoff performer. If we don't make it, I think I'm rooting for Florida or Toronto in the playoffs.

[siddious]

Damn. If only the Rangers needed a middle 6 center. Bennett will turn it around where ever he lands and should continue being a playoff performer. If we don't make it, I think I'm rooting for Florida or Toronto in the playoffs.

 

Florida in the east. Colorado in the west.

[The Dude]

The kids, Fox and Buch will be RFA status, so that's somewhat "cost controlled"...I'd think Buch is also headed for arbitration this season.

 

I also don't think those kids are breaking the bank when the time comes....

 

Let's see what Zibby does next season, because he didn't exactly UP his value much this year.

 

The contracts we need to unload are Trouba's and Kreider's. That would be a massive bonus. I believe that their NMC's become MODIFIED NMC's after a number of years, I just don't know what season that is.

 

Phil, Josh or RG may know that one.

 

So... like I said. Same team. Cap space is going to go to what's here. The names we will spend it on are worthy of it. As long as Buch doesn't crack the 5 million mark, I'm happy.

[Morphinity 2.0]

Man, when was the last time the Rangers made 0 moves at the deadline?

[Scott]

 

for a 5th rd pick

[Morphinity 2.0]

Man, when was the last time the Rangers made 0 moves at the deadline?

 

Answered my own question. Never in the salary cap era.

[Ozzy]

Next one up:

 

Anaheim Ducks: 2022 fifth-round pick

Toronto Maple Leafs: Ben Hutton

[Ozzy]

Here's another:

 

Ottawa Senators: 2023 seventh-round pick, Brandon Fortunato

Nashville Predators: Erik Gudbranson

[Ozzy]

It's a landslide!!!

 

Toronto Maple Leafs: Antti Suomela

San Jose Sharks: Alexander Barabanov