Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Package him with Kreider and get a better return. No problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyb Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Jeez kid, ok. Fuck outta here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4EverRangerFrank Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Jrose11 @TheJrose11 ? 2h Replying to @DarrenDreger and @NYRangers I can't believe the Rangers will throw him away like a Silver medal into the stands... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 He's been awful in Hartford. Might as well move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 This was such a stupid pick from the beginning. Was also rushed - hope this teaches gorton and company that it?s better to have patience sometimes. With that said Anderson is a prick. Didn?t get a chance my ass. Good riddance. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Bravo PH. The mismanagement if there is any is with the pick themselves not how they've both played their way into the shitter. That's on them. Mismanagement would have been keeping them in the NHL when they surely weren?t ready. And what would be the excuse for the KHL demoting Kravstov? I love math, and when 80% of your recent prospects are successful, you are on fire Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 This was such a stupid pick from the beginning. Was also rushed - hope this teaches gorton and company that it’s better to have patience sometimes. With that said Anderson is a prick. Didn’t get a chance my ass. Good riddance. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk They reached on him. Going back to that draft, based on his ratings, he should have gone mid-teens at the highest. They overestimated his NHL readiness and his intangibles. Clearly they made that trade hoping that Pettersson would be there. I don’t think though that they rushed him. But it’s moot The mistake was the pick. Not how they’ve handled the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYR2711 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Though I'm not sure I agree about the "he shouldn't be traded because he's young and cost-controlled," thing. Cost-control is a positive, for sure, but if you can flip him in a "my problem for yours" (say for Pajamas out of Edmonton), I think that's more than reasonable. I agree with Phil and Pete here as well. I was also thinking like Phil about Edmonton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Mismanagement would have been keeping them in the NHL when they surely weren’t ready. And what would be the excuse for the KHL demoting Kravstov? I love math, and when 80% of your recent prospects are successful, you are on fire Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk On D—maybe. What are the recent forwards that are successful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 On D—maybe. What are the recent forwards that are successful? Chytil. Which of our other forwards came through the AHL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck Head Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 On D?maybe. What are the recent forwards that are successful? Chityl Kakko Lemieux Howden Rare to have that many forwards with that little experiment in the NHL Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Chityl Kakko Lemieux Howden Rare to have that many forwards with that little experiment in the NHL Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Chytil was sent down this season . And might be sent down again. Everyone is asking for Kakko to be sent down Lemieux randomly loses ice time. And isn’t more than a bottom 6 energy guy Howden ... shouldn’t be in the nhl and is given a long leash. Not sure the point you guys are trying to prove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 I know one thing's for sure. If he ever makes it back to the NHL, he's gonna get fucking boo'd when he comes to MSG. Yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck Head Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Chytil was sent down this season . And might be sent down again. Everyone is asking for Kakko to be sent down Lemieux randomly loses ice time. And isn?t more than a bottom 6 energy guy Howden ... shouldn?t be in the nhl and is given a long leash. Not sure the point you guys are trying to prove. The obvious point is that these players were given a chance to succeed for whatever reasons. Kravstov was demoted from the KHL, let?s go ahead and remove him from the conversation right now. His issues have zero to do WiFi ranger management of his career. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Man I look at that list in addition to Lias and the other guy and can't help but cross my fingers the ones left turn out to be something resembling nhl contributors. If they turn out to be passengers we'll continue be a bottom feeder. Chytil was sent down this season . And might be sent down again. Everyone is asking for Kakko to be sent down Lemieux randomly loses ice time. And isn?t more than a bottom 6 energy guy Howden ... shouldn?t be in the nhl and is given a long leash. Not sure the point you guys are trying to prove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 The obvious point is that these players were given a chance to succeed for whatever reasons. Kravstov was demoted from the KHL, let’s go ahead and remove him from the conversation right now. His issues have zero to do WiFi ranger management of his career. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Yes, the Americans were given a chance. Even Kakko was stuck with howden. Which might be worse than hartford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 BUST. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Yea Quinn hates Europeans and Russians. Especially Zib, Panarin, Lundqvist, Georgiev, Kakko and Hajek who made the team over Lindgren. Also Buch who he gifted a top line spot out if camp that Buch "passed" on...if you catch my drift! That must be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 It really annoys me that Andersson and his agent couldn't have done this more quietly and not confirmed the request to Darren Drager etc. It reduces whatever value he still had. Actually, board members have been pretty patient, and it hasn't been until today that many have been conclusively calling him a bust. Gorton's off the board picks are not looking good. Stick to the script. Obviously, giving him 4th line minutes wasn't a recipe for getting him anywhere, but you can't give him top six minutes when he hasn't earned them, and he has never thrived in any of his three seasons in the AHL, so what are you supposed to do with the guy? I'm not sure what the happy medium is between the Andersson treatment and Howden treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck Head Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Yes, the Americans were given a chance. Even Kakko was stuck with howden. Which might be worse than hartford Buchnevich- Russian Kravstov- Russian Chytil- Czech Hajek- Czech Kakko- Finland Andersson- Sweden Georgiav- Bulgaria Howden- Canadian Fox- American Lemieux- American I just realized something, 75-80% of the league is North American. Our prospects have been overwhelmingly European. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 It really annoys me that Andersson and his agent couldn't have done this more quietly and not confirmed the request to Darren Drager etc. It reduces whatever value he still had. Actually, board members have been pretty patient, and it hasn't been until today that many have been conclusively calling him a bust. Gorton's off the board picks are not looking good. Stick to the script. Obviously, giving him 4th line minutes wasn't a recipe for getting him anywhere, but you can't give him top six minutes when he hasn't earned them, and he has never thrived in any of his three seasons in the AHL, so what are you supposed to do with the guy? I'm not sure what the happy medium is between the Andersson treatment and Howden treatment. Agree with all of this Most of us have been very patient, even those of us who have said that he was a big reach at 7. That?s all in the face of him not being NHL ready when he was reputed to be, showing no offense, not performing well in NHL, and not giving really any production in the A. As for the thing with his agent and giving it to Dreger, I get what you?re saying, but if he?s left the team, it?s hard to keep that quiet. All you can do in that situation is tell the truth, lie about it, or say nothing. Obviously you don?t want to lie, and saying nothing if approached is essentially a confirmation. Now if he went to Dreger with it, that?s an issue. But it?s not clear that he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 The opportunities given him were commensurate with what he earned based on his play and his production level. Couldn’t get it done right away in NHL, went to A. (17-18) Did ok in the A, went back up to NHL, did not produce much. (18-19) Had nice camp and preseason, made big club out of camp. Produced nothing and did not show much, had little minutes and got sent down. Got big minutes in the A, produced very little. Has his minutes cut. Throws a bitch fit, leaves team, asks for trade. (19-20) They’ve done exactly what you’d expect them to do with a player of his age, ability, and level of performance. He hasn’t done well with what opportunities he’s had. Whether he liked it or not, getting sent down to Hartford but getting big minutes down there was an opportunity. He just didn’t do much, so he fell down the lineup and saw his minutes get cut. It has nothing to do with him not getting an opportunity. He just hasn’t performed well. And clearly his head is not in the right place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Yea Quinn hates Europeans and Russians. Especially Zib, Panarin, Lundqvist, Georgiev, Kakko and Hajek who made the team over Lindgren. Also Buch who he gifted a top line spot out if camp that Buch "passed" on...if you catch my drift! That must be it. DQ is going to play "known commodities" over "unknown" and the fact that he's from the college ranks, he's wants more "sandpaper" players than "finesse" players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 DQ is going to play "known commodities" over "unknown" and the fact that he's from the college ranks, he's wants more "sandpaper" players than "finesse" players.OK. Does that make him a bad coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 The opportunities given him were commensurate with what he earned based on his play and his production level. Couldn’t get it done right away in NHL, went to A. (17-18) Did ok in the A, went back up to NHL, did not produce much. (18-19) Had nice camp and preseason, made big club out of camp. Produced nothing and did not show much, had little minutes and got sent down. Got big minutes in the A, produced very little. Has his minutes cut. Throws a bitch fit, leaves team, asks for trade. (19-20) They’ve done exactly what you’d expect them to do with a player of his age, ability, and level of performance. He hasn’t done well with what opportunities he’s had. Whether he liked it or not, getting sent down to Hartford but getting big minutes down there was an opportunity. He just didn’t do much, so he fell down the lineup and saw his minutes get cut. It has nothing to do with him not getting an opportunity. He just hasn’t performed well. And clearly his head is not in the right place. Even now, when Howden sucks on the 4th line, QUinn moves him up and gives him offensive linemates. Andersson wasn’t even given that opportunity when he earned it during preseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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