NYRangers723 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Cant knock our guys...they are playing hard. We are playing a lot of AHL level talent along with some young kids who may have bright futures but lack experience right now. I know fans hate to lose but this will help us get a better player in the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRangers723 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 All things considered this could have been worse I'm not one for tanking as it makes the team unwatchable, but I really do think it might be in our best interest given how insanely good the draft class is this season. Any of the projected top 5 picks this in this draft may have gone 1st overall in a weaker draft. We land a guy like Boqvist and our defense will look very different in just a year or two. If we get even luckier a guy like Zadina or Svechnikov will completely revamp this offense. Sadly, knowing the Rangers we'll probably move down and end up reaching for someone again our drafting has actually been real good the past 10 years considering the lack of picks and the fact that we were always in playoffs. The only guy we "reached" for was mcilrath which was a head scratcher at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefty9 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 All things considered this could have been worse I'm not one for tanking as it makes the team unwatchable, but I really do think it might be in our best interest given how insanely good the draft class is this season. Any of the projected top 5 picks this in this draft may have gone 1st overall in a weaker draft. We land a guy like Boqvist and our defense will look very different in just a year or two. If we get even luckier a guy like Zadina or Svechnikov will completely revamp this offense. Sadly, knowing the Rangers we'll probably move down and end up reaching for someone again I don't think the rangers will trade down for extra pick,if anything they will move up to get in the top five Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 our drafting has actually been real good the past 10 years considering the lack of picks and the fact that we were always in playoffs. The only guy we "reached" for was mcilrath which was a head scratcher at the time. This is false. The Rangers have been absolutely mediocre when it comes to drafting. It's carryover from when they were actually good at it. They're bottom of the league when it comes to having picks develop into players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefty9 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Let's hope with last year draft it started the change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRangers723 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 This is false. The Rangers have been absolutely mediocre when it comes to drafting. It's carryover from when they were actually good at it. They're bottom of the league when it comes to having picks develop into players. i mean its not like i said they were great at it. I meant when they had firsts they usually did ok. Kreider in 09 miller in 11 and Skjei in 2012. I think you misunderstood what i meant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 i mean its not like i said they were great at it. I meant when they had firsts they usually did ok. Kreider in 09 miller in 11 and Skjei in 2012. I think you misunderstood what i meant Weren't you just bashing Miller in another thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 i mean its not like i said they were great at it. I meant when they had firsts they usually did ok. Kreider in 09 miller in 11 and Skjei in 2012. I think you misunderstood what i meant You said they've done well considering the lack of draft picks. The Rangers have had two firsts in the last five years. Why are we only judging them on their ability to draft in the first round where it's objectively the easiest to get guaranteed NHL talent? Even if we want to judge them on first rounders over the last ten years you get Del Zotto, Kreider, McIlrath, Miller, Skjei, Andersson and Chytil. Maybe Chytil and Andersson will change things up, but they mostly swing and miss by trying to outsmart everyone else. In most other areas of the draft they've been awful. A Buchnevich every now and then doesn't make you good if the only other prospects you can produce are more Jesper Fasts and Boo Nieves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 usually ok isnt good enough. We've done well drafting. Still dont have a "steal" or a guy that developed into a top player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlairBettsBlocksEverything Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 totally spaced and missed this game. But I guess that's the upside of tanking. it's ok to do other stuff and forget about hockey for a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 You said they've done well considering the lack of draft picks. The Rangers have had two firsts in the last five years. Why are we only judging them on their ability to draft in the first round where it's objectively the easiest to get guaranteed NHL talent? Even if we want to judge them on first rounders over the last ten years you get Del Zotto, Kreider, McIlrath, Miller, Skjei, Andersson and Chytil. Maybe Chytil and Andersson will change things up, but they mostly swing and miss by trying to outsmart everyone else. In most other areas of the draft they've been awful. A Buchnevich every now and then doesn't make you good if the only other prospects you can produce are more Jesper Fasts and Boo Nieves. Think of the picks left on the table. DZ...Eberle/Carlson on the table Kreider...Not a bad pick. McIlrath...Tarasenko/Schwartz/Fowler Miller...Rikard Rackell (and Namestnikov LOL) Skjei...Not a bad pick, late. I mean if you put any of the forwards we left out there on this team today, we are a much better team. Especially Eberle (instead of DZ who netted us an early retiree) and Tarasenko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlairBettsBlocksEverything Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Think of the picks left on the table. DZ...Eberle/Carlson on the table Kreider...Not a bad pick. McIlrath...Tarasenko/Schwartz/Fowler Miller...Rikard Rackell (and Namestnikov LOL) Skjei...Not a bad pick, late. I mean if you put any of the forwards we left out there on this team today, we are a much better team. Especially Eberle (instead of DZ who netted us an early retiree) and Tarasenko. Sanguinetti isntead of Giroux. Actually that's a good pick. Sanguinetti is a fuckin Olympian! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Sanguinetti isntead of Giroux. Actually that's a good pick. Sanguinetti is a fuckin Olympian! Well, yea, but I didn't want to go back that far LOL. Jessiman... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 Think of the picks left on the table. DZ...Eberle/Carlson on the table Kreider...Not a bad pick. McIlrath...Tarasenko/Schwartz/Fowler Miller...Rikard Rackell (and Namestnikov LOL) Skjei...Not a bad pick, late. I mean if you put any of the forwards we left out there on this team today, we are a much better team. Especially Eberle (instead of DZ who netted us an early retiree) and Tarasenko. That's pretty much how I see it. 2009 and 2012 weren't good drafts so it's actually surprising they came out with decent 1st round picks. 2008 was the holy grail of defensive drafts and they came out with Del Zotto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYR2711 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Think of the picks left on the table. DZ...Eberle/Carlson on the table Kreider...Not a bad pick. McIlrath...Tarasenko/Schwartz/Fowler Miller...Rikard Rackell (and Namestnikov LOL) Skjei...Not a bad pick, late. I mean if you put any of the forwards we left out there on this team today, we are a much better team. Especially Eberle (instead of DZ who netted us an early retiree) and Tarasenko. The one I bolded makes me the most mad. This would be a very different team if the drafted Tarasenko. DZ I didn't have an issue with, my issue with him is how they rushed him into the league and then shit on him when he made mistakes. He needed a year or 2 in Hartford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 Del Zotto probably needed more development time, but the Rangers probably thought he could be more than he actually was. I imagine his numbers were inflated by playing with Tavares who was wrecking shop down in the OHL. I'm not too familiar, though. I wasn't following prospects much at 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefty9 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 I think with Del Soto it was more of a need pick than the best player advailable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Del Zotto probably needed more development time, but the Rangers probably thought he could be more than he actually was. I imagine his numbers were inflated by playing with Tavares who was wrecking shop down in the OHL. I'm not too familiar, though. I wasn't following prospects much at 11. You're on the right path. It's even deeper than that. He was initially hyped out of Bantam because before Tavares he was tied to Stamkos in Minor Hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 I think with Del Soto it was more of a need pick than the best player advailable Org was still high on Sanguientti, draft 2 years earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 You're on the right path. It's even deeper than that. He was initially hyped out of Bantam because before Tavares he was tied to Stamkos in Minor Hockey. Yeah, I remember there always being mention of him and Stammer being very tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 You're on the right path. It's even deeper than that. He was initially hyped out of Bantam because before Tavares he was tied to Stamkos in Minor Hockey. I think he was on his way to being a Tomas Kaberle type player, but there was no McCabe for him after Kotexleak shit the bed. He was good at finding open guys on the PP. No one else really was. It wasn't brain surgery, but he was the only one doing it. He also had off-ice issues, obvi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 He also had off-ice issues, obvi. Double leather jackets said it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 I won't ruin my Friday by getting in Del Zotto debate with Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 I won't ruin my Friday by getting in Del Zotto debate with Pete. There's nothing to debate. You said he'd wind up in the Euro league after Nashville. I win. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 True enough. He's managed to hang on like the Defense version of Peter Holland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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