BrooksBurner

Since 2021, top 5 Rangers forwards in +/-: Zibanejad +68 Kreider +57 Panarin +41 Kakko +29 Trocheck +17 In that span, Zibanejad is 10th amongst forwards in the NHL in +/-, and Kreider is 14th. You can't attribute the results to "goaltending and teammates" when the disparity in goal differential is this large. This year, Kreider is +17 (1st on team amongst forwards, 27th in NHL) and Zibanejad is +13 (4th, 51st). Still 1st line goal diff for both, but a step back because Zibanejad isn't keeping up with the offensive output he's had the last few seasons, and that's unequivocally not a Kreider issue. Kreider is tied for the most ES points in his career this year. Any attempt to shade Kreider for Zibanejad's lack of offense is not based in reality or stats. "It's a 5v4 when Kreider is on the ice" is the funniest thing I've read in a Kreider-hate post in a while. The fact of the matter is, Kreider and Zibanejad help each other immensely in all 3 zones. Peanut butter and jelly baby. Just a little light on peanut butter (Zibanejad) this year.

Not that it makes a diff with respect to Dallas, but in general 3v3 ot and shootout “wins” aren’t legitimate hockey wins either. Don’t like the cheesy winner point just as much as I don’t like the loser point…but I also hate the concept of ties too lol

Refs missed 2 boarding calls within 15 seconds of each other. Amazing

I don't agree with most of this, but we'll be rooting for them to win all the same. The difference is simply I think they need a good bit more luck than you do. It's not that big a deal

Re-read the last thing I quoted again. It's not all bad. This thread was why the team is getting disrespected with coverage. Well, my two cents is I think it's a lot to do with a growing belief in a strong correlation of 5v5 analytics to Cup winners over the last 15 years. I said this months ago, that Washington was the only piss poor team at 5v5 to win a Cup and the Rangers would be in that category.This graphic from the article is pretty good depicting that: Opportunistic goal scoring (above average finishing), great special teams, great goaltending, good talent up top. Maybe it's enough, but ultimately the linkage between strong 5v5 play is almost a requirement to winning a Cup and they simply don't have it.

You wanted attention, here you go: https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/39902929/nhl-new-york-rangers-playoffs-2024-stanley-cup-analytics-data It's a really good, honest write up. Here's some excerpts. Kelly certainly knows what he's talking about. You absolutely cannot write off any team with some of the talent, and opportunistic scoring/goaltending that the Rangers are capable of. With that said, they are clearly behind the 8 ball in their approach to the game, relying primarily on getting bounces and luck at the right time.

Most signs point to a paper tiger. I wish it weren't so. Perhaps the luck can carry on a little further than the ECF appearance 2 years ago though. That's what we have to hope for. People should be prepared for "the disrespect" of a lot of predictions coming in against the Rangers, from the growing list of hockey analysts/journalists who weigh analytics appropriately in conjunction with other things in their predictions.

The bullpen has actually been very good, as has the rotation. Relievers 2.59 ERA, 6th in league. Starters 2.78 ERA, 5th in league. I'm concerned about the rotation depth and quality as the season wears on though (as long as Cole is out, and I kind of think his injury is more serious than they let on and they are hoping for a bit of a miracle in avoiding the inevitable).

And Hal. He’s been the penny pincher, big George would roll over in his grave at some of the cheap miscues and decisions that have been made over the years!

It's nice to see some success early, but there's even more reason for optimism in upcoming years. Volpe is a stud. Domingues looked like a stud last year before his injury. Can't wait for him to be back.Two guys in their early 20s who can be cornerstone pieces in the middle of the lineup. If the Yankes can re-sign Soto, who is only 25 years old, they potentially have the meat of the order solved for the next 8-10 years with Volpe/Domingues/Soto. Include Judge for the next 3-4 he should still be good for.

It's not really close at all. There's 3 runaway candidates, and Panarin is at the top of the 2nd tier of candidates alongside Pastrnak and Matthews. Still good company to be in.

Lafreniere and Trocheck been serving up some easy goals for #10 all year. Whole line effort

You're clearly on a delayed stream. Spoiler alert: these don't age well

He's money at all strengths. He's just pure gold on the PP.

Very worthy winner

Kane passing up the shot is a microcosm of why he would have been a terrible add to this team. We don’t need more of that bullshit.

Kreider is a cheat code

Slam dunk with PP1 time

Man I thought I spoke too soon....so close

Of course they had to look like last year’s Yankees today

Lafreniere 5v5 rankings amongst forwards Games 1 through 46: 6th TOI, 92nd goals, 64th points Games 47 through 76: 22nd TOI, 13th goals, 18th points Despite looking good in the first stretch, Lafreniere's production lagged way behind relative to the sheer amount of 5v5 TOI he was receiving. In the last 30 plus games, he's producing relative to his TOI (actually a bit above, even), and showing out like a true 1st line forward. You just love to fucking see it

I take issue with "good". I think he's consistently "fine" every night, in that you can expect him to play even with his opposition. Occasionally he is "good", in that he's a productive positive (good). I'm not worried that he's "fine". I'm worried that he's not "good" enough to be worth the level of commitment and reliance they've put on him year over year.

What are they butt hurt about? Sucking ginormous penis this year and getting completely bullied last night?