Dem Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 3 hours ago, Abe Froman said: Could be Dem. I wonder what Kreiders excuse is? Old age n self preservation I think 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 53 minutes ago, Phil said: https://www.lohud.com/story/sports/nhl/rangers/2024/05/14/rangers-need-stars-to-step-up-to-close-out-hurricanes/73688313007/ Yeah he’s gotta be hurt. He’s not playing badly, as in I don’t see him making big mistakes or anything, but he’s not driving plays or creating opportunities like he normally does with the puck on his stick. He also seems to be crankier/whinier than usual on the ice, and I think it might be related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 14 Author Share Posted May 14 9 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said: Yeah he’s gotta be hurt. He’s not playing badly, as in I don’t see him making big mistakes or anything, but he’s not driving plays or creating opportunities like he normally does with the puck on his stick. He also seems to be crankier/whinier than usual on the ice, and I think it might be related. He can't even turn. He's 100% hurt. If he isn't, they've got a world of problems with that player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 1 hour ago, BrooksBurner said: Yeah he’s gotta be hurt. He’s not playing badly, as in I don’t see him making big mistakes or anything, but he’s not driving plays or creating opportunities like he normally does with the puck on his stick. He also seems to be crankier/whinier than usual on the ice, and I think it might be related. He’s nursing something. Its beyond obvious. I don’t think it’s major or serious. But it’s nagging or hampering him some. The extra day helps him. Also… someone needs to remind him that in the Game 7 disaster vs NJ last year, he was literally the worst player on the ice. Norris trophy winners come to play in big games. This MF’er needs to know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Yeah, with Fox hurt and not producing, this team isn’t going anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 11 hours ago, Flynn said: I'm not sure if I hate or like the extra day off. Oh for fucks sake I just realized there’s no game tomorrow. So annoying. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 The issue with Fox is something I’ve said in prior posts when it comes with speed of the game. What makes him good is his high IQ and the methodical style he plays. But all of these teams in the playoffs are aggressive in nature and more aggressive than usual since the stakes are raised. He doesn’t have the opportunity to make those cute little plays he did in January against teams with bad PK’s or couldn’t defend the neutral zone. He needs to adjust, just like everyone, to the tempo of the playoffs. And you can like it, love it, hate it, whatever, the fact remains that he has had issues with that in the playoffs both this year and in years past. That’s not to say his playoff resume is total shit, or that he isn’t playing hurt right now or anything. He just needs to raise it up here, whether he is banged up or not. He needs to adjust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 8 hours ago, RichieNextel305 said: The issue with Fox is something I’ve said in prior posts when it comes with speed of the game. What makes him good is his high IQ and the methodical style he plays. But all of these teams in the playoffs are aggressive in nature and more aggressive than usual since the stakes are raised. He doesn’t have the opportunity to make those cute little plays he did in January against teams with bad PK’s or couldn’t defend the neutral zone. He needs to adjust, just like everyone, to the tempo of the playoffs. And you can like it, love it, hate it, whatever, the fact remains that he has had issues with that in the playoffs both this year and in years past. That’s not to say his playoff resume is total shit, or that he isn’t playing hurt right now or anything. He just needs to raise it up here, whether he is banged up or not. He needs to adjust. The whole team has to make adjustments off that last game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 No game tonight. That sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 9 hours ago, RichieNextel305 said: The issue with Fox is something I’ve said in prior posts when it comes with speed of the game. What makes him good is his high IQ and the methodical style he plays. But all of these teams in the playoffs are aggressive in nature and more aggressive than usual since the stakes are raised. He doesn’t have the opportunity to make those cute little plays he did in January against teams with bad PK’s or couldn’t defend the neutral zone. He needs to adjust, just like everyone, to the tempo of the playoffs. And you can like it, love it, hate it, whatever, the fact remains that he has had issues with that in the playoffs both this year and in years past. That’s not to say his playoff resume is total shit, or that he isn’t playing hurt right now or anything. He just needs to raise it up here, whether he is banged up or not. He needs to adjust. I feel like the hockey IQ of this team fluctuates on a daily basis. lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 9 hours ago, RichieNextel305 said: The issue with Fox is something I’ve said in prior posts when it comes with speed of the game. What makes him good is his high IQ and the methodical style he plays. But all of these teams in the playoffs are aggressive in nature and more aggressive than usual since the stakes are raised. He doesn’t have the opportunity to make those cute little plays he did in January against teams with bad PK’s or couldn’t defend the neutral zone. He needs to adjust, just like everyone, to the tempo of the playoffs. And you can like it, love it, hate it, whatever, the fact remains that he has had issues with that in the playoffs both this year and in years past. That’s not to say his playoff resume is total shit, or that he isn’t playing hurt right now or anything. He just needs to raise it up here, whether he is banged up or not. He needs to adjust. I’ve said it in the past that he doesn’t seem like a playoff player. Then he started the playoffs this year and was feisty, engaged and was making plays. i dunno if he got hurt, or the games just get too tight for him but there’s a noteable difference the last few games. He’s such a hard guy to read sometimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 2 minutes ago, siddious said: I’ve said it in the past that he doesn’t seem like a playoff player. Then he started the playoffs this year and was feisty, engaged and was making plays. i dunno if he got hurt, or the games just get too tight for him but there’s a noteable difference the last few games. He’s such a hard guy to read sometimes He needs time to be effective, you don’t have time against the Canes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 3 minutes ago, Vodka Drunkenski said: He needs time to be effective, you don’t have time against the Canes This is true too. I think our defense in general has this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 I think it was the knee on knee in the Washington series. He's been different since that play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Flynn said: I think it was the knee on knee in the Washington series. He's been different since that play Are we sure it’s the injury and not the quality of opponent? Carolina gives you no time, like others have said. And Fox’s greatest asset is using his time wisely to try and make a play. It ain’t working right now. And he needs to make adjustments. Badly. Edited May 15 by RichieNextel305 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 1 hour ago, RangersIn7 said: The whole team has to make adjustments off that last game. Oh for sure. It was a disaster. The whole team looked and played afraid. The structure wasn’t there. Guys looked tentative. And they tried to sit on a 1-goal lead against a team you shouldn’t sit on a 1-goal lead against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 You shouldn't be trying to sit on any lead, especially one, in the playoffs against anybody. Maybe you can get away with it against Columbus in February, but Carolina or Florida now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 20 minutes ago, Vodka Drunkenski said: He needs time to be effective, you don’t have time against the Canes I think one of Fox's greatest abilities is being deceptive with the puck and body to create space and time for himself. Seems to me he's not as confident handling the puck. I think he hurt his knee pretty good in the last Caps game and is limited with some of the cuts and dancing around he can normally do. It's like telling a magician to perform with one eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Two years ago Fox had 2 goals and 8 points in the Carolina series, and 5 goals and 23 points in 21 playoff games. I don't follow this train of thought that he's not a playoff performer. That monumental fuck up in G7 last year against NJ is really imprinted into people's brains. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Br4d Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 11 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said: Two years ago Fox had 2 goals and 8 points in the Carolina series, and 5 goals and 23 points in 21 playoff games. I don't follow this train of thought that he's not a playoff performer. That monumental fuck up in G7 last year against NJ is really imprinted into people's brains. Fox gave up, alongside almost everybody else, when the Rangers got down big in game 7 last year. Watching your best player(s) skating at half-effort when the season is going down the drain is really memorable. If he's really hurt right now Laviolette needs to sit him and put Jones in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Heaven Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 34 minutes ago, RichieNextel305 said: Are we sure it’s the injury and not the quality of opponent? Carolina gives you no time, like others have said. And Fox’s greatest asset is using his time wisely to try and make a play. It ain’t working right now. And he needs to make adjustments. Badly. Its definitely some sort of injury, you can tell when the puck gets dumped out of the zone on the PP he's skating at like half speed. Even with Carolina pressuring he's pretty good at making the quick pass or finding time, but if his leg is wonky, his first step to slide out of the way is slower. For the Rangers to break through on the PP, quick passes eventually gets Carolina out of position, that is all. Rangers passes have been off for the most part, really not much of a difference between Games 1 and 2 on the PP and Games 3-5 for Carolina's PK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Heaven Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 9 minutes ago, Br4d said: Fox gave up, alongside almost everybody else, when the Rangers got down big in game 7 last year. Watching your best player(s) skating at half-effort when the season is going down the drain is really memorable. If he's really hurt right now Laviolette needs to sit him and put Jones in. Not going to sit a Norris Trophy winner for a dude that has played 69 career games. For Fox to be scratched he'd have to have surgery. A hurt Fox is infinitely better than Zac Jones. All it takes is a couple of slick moves on the PP lead to a goal and all will be fine. Herein lies the problem though to get PPs, Rangers have to be engaged and force the Canes to take penalties so they have more opportunities for Fox and co to produce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 1 minute ago, Br4d said: If he's really hurt right now Laviolette needs to sit him and put Jones in. Fox at whatever percentage he’s playing at is better than Jones. He’s got the most TOI on the team in the playoffs and in this series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karan Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 8 minutes ago, Blue Heaven said: Not going to sit a Norris Trophy winner for a dude that has played 69 career games. For Fox to be scratched he'd have to have surgery. A hurt Fox is infinitely better than Zac Jones. All it takes is a couple of slick moves on the PP lead to a goal and all will be fine. Herein lies the problem though to get PPs, Rangers have to be engaged and force the Canes to take penalties so they have more opportunities for Fox and co to produce. It's going to take a lot more than just some slick moves to get a PPG at this point. It's been shutdown for 3 straight games. What is it, 0 for 8 or 9 over that stretch? The PP's been getting outworked by their PK, as they've really ramped it up. Meanwhile it looks like the #1 PP in particular has gotten pretty immobile, far too many cross ice passes getting intercepted, poor zone entries etc. Since that's been one of their key weapons all season, and likely something they're going to need to capitalize on in order to steal a Game 6, sure hope they come out looking a bit more energetic and sharper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Carolina was already a good penalty killing team. Now they've just adjusted even more, and the Rangers are going to have to figure it out, and soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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