Phil Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Quote "I’m human," he said. "You think about stuff like that. Obviously, it is a contract year, but I think about it more so as a team. How we play is obviously going to help that. If our team does well, then hopefully they want to keep me around or whatever it may be. But you just try not to think about it. It's hard not to, but it is what it is." Quote "His impact on the game is not always written about," Laviolette said. "It’s the things that he does – the blocking shots, the physicality, the top minutes, the top lines, the penalty kill. It’s the physical way in which he plays the game, and the things that he battles through to play in those games. Because that type of player, I think, it can start to take a toll on you, and yet he’s there. He's reliable. He's dependable, and so, he's been outstanding for us this year." Quote Concerns about how his body will hold up may limit how many years team president Chris Drury is willing to offer a restricted free agent who will have arbitration rights for the first time this summer, but the expectation is that agreeable terms won't be hard to come by for two sides who have a high level of mutual respect. Quote Frankly, it would be more difficult to land another proven top-four defenseman on the open market who fits into Lindgren's expected $3 million-to-$4 million AAV range − and there's no doubt that going in a different direction would put a dent in team chemistry. https://www.lohud.com/story/sports/nhl/rangers/2024/02/15/rangers-ryan-lindgren-on-pending-free-agency-this-is-home-now/72612060007/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 5 years $4.5 million...that's my guess 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jsm7302 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 8 minutes ago, Ozzy said: 5 years $4.5 million...that's my guess Totally didn't realize he is only 26. I'd give him that contract without hesitation and buyout Goodrow to accommodate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 10 minutes ago, Pete said: 4 minutes ago, jsm7302 said: Totally didn't realize he is only 26. I'd give him that contract without hesitation and buyout Goodrow to accommodate. The level of stupidity it would take to not re-sign him, especially at that price, would have to be astronomical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Lindgren's Q.O. is at $4M. I see zero chance at anything under that, and anything with term eating into UFA years will cost more than that. We can go back and forth about his analytics this year, and they aren't good, but it doesn't change that a boatload of teams would want a guy like this on their team, including the one across the river. Imagine him in red and black. Gross. With that said, the Rangers have to improve at LD. Lindgren is not a 1st pairing guy and neither is Miller. I think it's something they should address this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delneggs Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 28 minutes ago, Ozzy said: 5 years $4.5 million...that's my guess Fox has 5 years on his deal so this term for Lindy makes sense. Keep them paired up for 5 more years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 minute ago, delneggs said: Fox has 5 years on his deal so this term for Lindy makes sense. Keep them paired up for 5 more years. See where I'm going here, my man?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 At the price Vince cites, or even slightly above, it's a complete no-brainer. That said, and yes, I hate myself when I say these words - @BrooksBurner has a really important point here. LD has been rough this year. It's not only Lindgren and Miller - Trouba's been a contributor to our defense being shoddier, Fox hasn't been his usual Norris-caliber self - but it's a problem. Lindgren is capable of solving that problem to some extent and at the price being discussed, we'd be idiots to say no. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 5 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said: Lindgren's Q.O. is at $4M. I see zero chance at anything under that, and anything with term eating into UFA years will cost more than that. We can go back and forth about his analytics this year, and they aren't good, but it doesn't change that a boatload of teams would want a guy like this on their team, including the one across the river. Imagine him in red and black. Gross. With that said, the Rangers have to improve at LD. Lindgren is not a 1st pairing guy and neither is Miller. I think it's something they should address this summer. TBD. Lindgren obviously wants to stay, so he's likely to be a bit more reasonable to get a deal done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 27 Author Share Posted February 27 1 minute ago, Pete said: TBD. Lindgren obviously wants to stay, so he's likely to be a bit more reasonable to get a deal done. Both things are true. Traditionally speaking, @BrooksBurner is correct. UFA years cost UFA prices. But the way this article reads, and the way the quotes from Lindgren read, it sounds like he's not all that interested in testing the market and wants to stay. It feels like there's a very easy bridge here: $4.5m x something. The something is what needs figuring out more than the AAV IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delneggs Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 minute ago, Phil said: Both things are true. Traditionally speaking, @BrooksBurner is correct. UFA years cost UFA prices. But the way this article reads, and the way the quotes from Lindgren read, it sounds like he's not all that interested in testing the market and wants to stay. It feels like there's a very easy bridge here: $4.5m x something. The something is what needs figuring out more than the AAV IMO. I think Lindy would be happy to take $22.5 million over 5 years to remain in NYC with his best buddy Fox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Just now, Phil said: Both things are true. Traditionally speaking, @BrooksBurner is correct. UFA years cost UFA prices. But the way this article reads, and the way the quotes from Lindgren read, it sounds like he's not all that interested in testing the market and wants to stay. It feels like there's a very easy bridge here: $4.5m x something. The something is what needs figuring out more than the AAV IMO. I think everyone's 4.5 expectation is about right, and I think @Ozzy nailed the term (5 years). It's a discount from the 5.5ish most had been guessing 6 months ago, so you've got a decrease in value based on the underwhelming season he has had combined with a team discount of sorts to stay here. I just have no clue why Vince would say an expected range of 3-4M. There's just no way. If that's all the Rangers are offering on a multi-year, I think he's signing the 1 year 4M QO and going UFA without question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 27 Author Share Posted February 27 1 hour ago, BrooksBurner said: I think everyone's 4.5 expectation is about right, and I think @Ozzy nailed the term (5 years). It's a discount from the 5.5ish most had been guessing 6 months ago, so you've got a decrease in value based on the underwhelming season he has had combined with a team discount of sorts to stay here. I just have no clue why Vince would say an expected range of 3-4M. There's just no way. If that's all the Rangers are offering on a multi-year, I think he's signing the 1 year 4M QO and going UFA without question. Agreed. The idea of him taking $3 million, or anything close to it, is insanity. It's a paycut. He makes $4 million in base salary this season. That's the minimum IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 2 hours ago, Ozzy said: 5 years $4.5 million...that's my guess That's about right. I understand the concerns about him wearing down, but who would have thought five years ago that Marc Staal would still be in the league now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 minute ago, Sod16 said: That's about right. I understand the concerns about him wearing down, but who would have thought five years ago that Marc Staal would still be in the league now. Guy's a warrior. We want warriors! We need warriors! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 No girl ever bled as much as Lindgren bleeds for the rangers. But if Miller can get a legit 1st pairing defenseman so Lindgren doesnt get as many minutes per night, i'll be happier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Albatrosss said: No girl ever bled as much as Lindgren bleeds for the rangers. But if Miller can get a legit 1st pairing defenseman so Lindgren doesnt get as many minutes per night, i'll be happier They need to try Miller with Fox. Get him away from Trouba. Then figure out what he really is. The underlying numbers say Miller is good with the other RDs on the team, and Trouba isn't good with anyone but Fox and Zac Jones. Edited February 27 by Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 27 Author Share Posted February 27 2 hours ago, BrooksBurner said: With that said, the Rangers have to improve at LD. Lindgren is not a 1st pairing guy and neither is Miller. I think it's something they should address this summer. Don't. You. Dare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 7 minutes ago, Pete said: They need to try Miller with Fox. Get him away from Trouba. Then figure out what he really is. The underlying numbers say Miller is good with the other RDs on the team, and Trouba isn't good with anyone but Fox and Zac Jones. Hasnt been the case with two coaches now. Lavi tried mixing up the D at the start of the season but then promptly went back to the same pairing GG had the years prior. Maybe they dont like what they see in practice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 14 minutes ago, Albatrosss said: Hasnt been the case with two coaches now. Lavi tried mixing up the D at the start of the season but then promptly went back to the same pairing GG had the years prior. Maybe they dont like what they see in practice? I don't really think it's ever truly been tried in a game outside pre-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 3 minutes ago, Pete said: I don't really think it's ever truly been tried in a game outside pre-season. then it must be something they see in practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 hour ago, Sod16 said: That's about right. I understand the concerns about him wearing down, but who would have thought five years ago that Marc Staal would still be in the league now. Guy is indestructible I dunno what you are on about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Just don't pay him past age 30-31. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyb Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Gonna hurt seeing this guy get rocked for the next 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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