Injury Report Concern Grows for Filip Chytil After Latest Suspected Concussion

[BrooksBurner]

Will Kakko catch Chytil in points before he returns to the lineup?

[Albatrosss]

1 hour ago, BrooksBurner said:

Will Kakko catch Chytil in points before he returns to the lineup?

Rep bet?

 

i say no

[Br4d]

10 hours ago, RangersIn7 said:

It just takes time.

Concussions are completely their own animal.

And each one is different regardless of history.

 

 

 

The physiology of concussions is well understood at this point.  Brain sloshing around in your skull is the bottom line for most repeat concussions and why most medical professionals think a couple should be disqualifying from the activity that caused them.  When you get to 3 or 4 the warning signals are flashing bright red.

 

The economics of professional sports, with huge sums available that are not available to the athlete anywhere else, often means you hit a half dozen before the hard no becomes the answer.  Chytil is either in the 3 or 4 or the half dozen category and we don't know which because there's real incentive on the part of everybody involved to not disclose until there's no choice.

[torontonyr]

Damn feel bad for the kid. I'm hopeful with today's treatment he can be kept out and return to playing, if that's what he wants. Folks like Mika have gotten multiple and seem to be healthy, and we're in no rush to bring him back. 

 

 

 

[Cash or Czech]

15 hours ago, Albatrosss said:

We have a 2nd OA highly touted pick--bust.  a center that never plays for more than a month. Another center who forgot how to score goals.  A power forward who's allergic to the boards. WTF is going on?

 

And despite all of that we're leading the Metro.

[Albatrosss]

1 minute ago, Cash or Czech said:

 

And despite all of that we're leading the Metro.

Thats true but it cannot be sustainable. 

[Cash or Czech]

1 minute ago, Albatrosss said:

Thats true but it cannot be sustainable. 

 

It can if all of those things you mentioned even out. Zibanejad starts scoring, Kreider starts playing hockey, Chytil is healthy and productive for a month...

[Br4d]

1 hour ago, Albatrosss said:

Thats true but it cannot be sustainable. 

 

It can be sustainable if the whole team keeps playing defense the way they are right now and nobody on line 1a gets hurt.

 

 

[Albatrosss]

16 minutes ago, Br4d said:

 

It can be sustainable if the whole team keeps playing defense the way they are right now and nobody on line 1a gets hurt.

 

 

Or if we trade Kakko for McDavid.  

[Albatrosss]

1 hour ago, Cash or Czech said:

 

It can if all of those things you mentioned even out. Zibanejad starts scoring, Kreider starts playing hockey, Chytil is healthy and productive for a month...

Obviously. But as is its just not going to happen 

[Phil]

12 hours ago, Jdog99 said:

if goodrow can't step into the third line center role as a good backup asset...why the hell is he on this roster?

 

Call me crazy, but look at his ice time under Gallant. Then look at it under Laviolette. Now factor in the cap crunch, the desire to accrue more room as the season progresses, and the value of his hit versus what he's giving the team and tell me you don't see the same mutual decision to move on glistening on the horizon line that I do?

 

He averaged 16:43 in year one. 14:10 in year two. He's averaging just 11:07 this season and has has played fewer than ten minutes a game twice in the last five games, including a Rangers career-low of 7:56 versus Columbus.

 

And this is coming with Chytil out of the lineup. Smells like divorce to me, but I could be wrong.

[phillyb]

Terrible news for the kid. Hoping for a recovery and him back on the ice, but health trumps hockey. 

[BrooksBurner]

2 hours ago, Cash or Czech said:

 

It can if all of those things you mentioned even out. Zibanejad starts scoring, Kreider starts playing hockey, Chytil is healthy and productive for a month...

Kreider is pacing 58 goals and 82 points. Is that not playing hockey?

 

Anyway, if we say what if about struggling players, we have to say what if about the hot players (calm down @Albatrosss, not that kind of hot):

 

- Panarin probably won’t maintain an unsustainable 140 pt pace

- Lafreniere probably won’t maintain a 40 goal pace derived from a 30 s%

- Quick probably won’t maintain a 2 gaa, >.925 sv% in relief of Igor

- Gus probably won’t maintain 1st pairing level defensemen play

 

[Pete]

9 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said:

Kreider is pacing 58 goals and 82 points. Is that not playing hockey?

 

Anyway, if we say what if about struggling players, we have to say what if about the hot players (calm down @Albatrosss, not that kind of hot):

 

- Panarin probably won’t maintain an unsustainable 140 pt pace

- Lafreniere probably won’t maintain a 40 goal pace derived from a 30 s%

- Quick probably won’t maintain a 2 gaa, >.925 sv% in relief of Igor

- Gus probably won’t maintain 1st pairing level defensemen play

 

I don't think you're right about Panarin or Gustafsson. I'm not going to bother arguing Panarin, but Gus stepped in and did an amazing job replacing Carlson in Washington last year on the top pair. He is absolutely capable of maintaining that level of play over a sustained period. 

 

Everything else, you're likely right about. 

Edited November 17, 2023 by Pete

[Br4d]

46 minutes ago, Albatrosss said:

Or if we trade Kakko for McDavid.  

 

We're really lucky that Adam Fox would likely commit suicide if the Rangers traded him.

 

Other wise a 7 for 1 for McDavid with Fox as one of the headliners would be almost guaranteed.

[RichieNextel305]

My question is if we look to save assets to potentially acquire a 3C if Chytil is out, why not just potentially sign Kane when he won’t cost you any assets and we still need a 2RW?

Edited November 17, 2023 by RichieNextel305

[jsm7302]

1 minute ago, RichieNextel305 said:

My question is if we look to save assets to potentially acquire a 3C if Chytil is out, why not just potentially sign Kane when he won’t cost you any assets and we still need a 2RW?

Buying an injured Kane is the same risk as buying a Kane coming off career ending surgery (in other cases). The gamble didn't pay off the first time and Drury isn't about to go back to that well it seems. Probably the right call. 

[Br4d]

41 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said:

Kreider is pacing 58 goals and 82 points. Is that not playing hockey?

 

Anyway, if we say what if about struggling players, we have to say what if about the hot players (calm down @Albatrosss, not that kind of hot):

 

- Panarin probably won’t maintain an unsustainable 140 pt pace

- Lafreniere probably won’t maintain a 40 goal pace derived from a 30 s%

- Quick probably won’t maintain a 2 gaa, >.925 sv% in relief of Igor

- Gus probably won’t maintain 1st pairing level defensemen play

 

 

Laffy is taking highly opportunistic shots mostly from close-in.  He might maintain a high 20's shooting percentage because he's not taking shots just to take shots.

[Phil]

12 hours ago, BrooksBurner said:

Will Kakko catch Chytil in points before he returns to the lineup?

 

[Phil]

22 minutes ago, RichieNextel305 said:

My question is if we look to save assets to potentially acquire a 3C if Chytil is out, why not just potentially sign Kane when he won’t cost you any assets and we still need a 2RW?

 

Because center matters more and Kane is coming off a career-killing surgery that no one has shown to rebound from.

[Br4d]

24 minutes ago, RichieNextel305 said:

My question is if we look to save assets to potentially acquire a 3C if Chytil is out, why not just potentially sign Kane when he won’t cost you any assets and we still need a 2RW?

 

Because the odds are pretty good that Kane will come in cold and then it will get worse.

 

Look at what Laviolette is trying to do here with team defense and north-south and ask yourself if a 35 year old guy rehabbing from a surgery that always retires people shortly thereafter is the right fit?

[JHS]

20 hours ago, Albatrosss said:

We have a 2nd OA highly touted pick--bust.  a center that never plays for more than a month. Another center who forgot how to score goals.  A power forward who's allergic to the boards. WTF is going on?

And yet they are basically the best team record wise in the NHL.  Can we save the issues until they actually are issues?

[Cash or Czech]

3 hours ago, BrooksBurner said:

Kreider is pacing 58 goals and 82 points. Is that not playing hockey?

 

Anyway, if we say what if about struggling players, we have to say what if about the hot players (calm down @Albatrosss, not that kind of hot):

 

- Panarin probably won’t maintain an unsustainable 140 pt pace

- Lafreniere probably won’t maintain a 40 goal pace derived from a 30 s%

- Quick probably won’t maintain a 2 gaa, >.925 sv% in relief of Igor

- Gus probably won’t maintain 1st pairing level defensemen play

 

 

Just reacting to our negative nancy comrade is all. I think Kreider's been great

[Albatrosss]

1 hour ago, JHS said:

And yet they are basically the best team record wise in the NHL.  Can we save the issues until they actually are issues?

There are issues, they are just masqueraded by winning.  

[Albatrosss]

3 hours ago, BrooksBurner said:

Kreider is pacing 58 goals and 82 points. Is that not playing hockey?

 

Anyway, if we say what if about struggling players, we have to say what if about the hot players (calm down @Albatrosss, not that kind of hot):

 

- Panarin probably won’t maintain an unsustainable 140 pt pace

- Lafreniere probably won’t maintain a 40 goal pace derived from a 30 s%

- Quick probably won’t maintain a 2 gaa, >.925 sv% in relief of Igor

- Gus probably won’t maintain 1st pairing level defensemen play

 

Kreider probably wont maintain the scoring pace either, not with Zibby struggling