Phil Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Quote 13. Clayton Keller gave Arizona a month or so to provide him with direction about the future, on and off the ice. On is much easier: the Coyotes were more competitive than expected and are loaded with draft picks. There is no desire to move backward. Another team’s manager says GM Bill Armstrong has a line: “They can’t stop us from drafting.” Off…well, who knows? It’s all guesswork and God knows if there’s any way to figure it out in 45 days. To this point, Keller is not asking for a trade. But, stay tuned. If he’s available, there will be a first-day Guardians of the Galaxy 3 style lineup. Think they are also being asked about Lawson Crouse. https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/32-thoughts-whats-next-for-leafs-flames-after-front-office-changes/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Great young player. Just a shame he is wallowing away in that goofy shit heap out in Arizona. I hope he finds a home where the home arena seats more than 27 people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Can we trade Lafraniere for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, RJWantsTheCup said: Can we trade Lafraniere for him? Just what Laf needs… spring break at ASU 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, siddious said: Just what Laf needs… spring break at ASU He can finally get laid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Just now, Drew a Penalty said: He can finally get laid. Guy can’t score on and off the ice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 I've been a big proponent of Keller's since before he was drafted so I'd be interested just because of that. 15th in the league in 5v5 points and solves the RW problem. His $7.1M cap hit is honestly a bargain if he produces at P/GP or above. If the Rangers can find a way to make the move for him, they should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, siddious said: Guy can’t score on and off the ice He should try switching teams. They should also trade him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Keller for Laf is unlikely. Laf for Guenther and their 2nd rounder....that intrigues me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Heaven Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Go Get Em, Dru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 It would take Miller plus more to get him, and we couldn't take his $7.125 cap hit even if Miller were out of the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 They just traded Chychrun so I’m not sure they would turn around and have interest in Miller. Laf for Keller is probably the Brassard for Zibanejad deal in reverse for the Rangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 9 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said: They just traded Chychrun so I’m not sure they would turn around and have interest in Miller. Laf for Keller is probably the Brassard for Zibanejad deal in reverse for the Rangers. They traded him because he asked for it. They may be happy to replace him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 12 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said: They just traded Chychrun so I’m not sure they would turn around and have interest in Miller. Laf for Keller is probably the Brassard for Zibanejad deal in reverse for the Rangers. Unless it’s just to rid themselves of money, I don’t see how Arizona is trading Keller straight up for Laf. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 23 hours ago, siddious said: Just what Laf needs… spring break at ASU Waste Management Open fits right in with his lifestyle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 55 minutes ago, Bugg said: Waste Management Open fits right in with his lifestyle. That 16th hole crowd.... Damn, I gotta be there at least once in my lifetime to see that first hand, Bugg! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 If/when the franchise does move, you wonder if a lot of players will request a trade. Maybe it depends on where they move to, I don't know. It seems like quite a few of their youngsters really don't want to leave Arizona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 (edited) On 5/24/2023 at 8:04 AM, Drew a Penalty said: I've been a big proponent of Keller's since before he was drafted so I'd be interested just because of that. 15th in the league in 5v5 points and solves the RW problem. His $7.1M cap hit is honestly a bargain if he produces at P/GP or above. If the Rangers can find a way to make the move for him, they should. And 11th in ES points. The underlying metrics are good for the team he's on. He'll be 25 over the summer, and from what I've seen he plays quick. I'm not sure if he has "high end top speed", but he plays and gets around quick. This is probably the kind of guy you part with 2 of Lafreniere, Chytil, Miller for. Edited May 25, 2023 by BrooksBurner 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 10 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said: And 11th in ES points. The underlying metrics are good for the team he's on. He'll be 25 over the summer, and from what I've seen he plays quick. I'm not sure if he has "high end top speed", but he plays and gets around quick. This is probably the kind of guy you part with 2 of Lafreniere, Chytil, Miller for. Absolutely. $7.1M is $600k more than Kreider gets but for a P/GP player. Keller is more of what the NHL is trending toward with speed and skill. He's Kane-lite. He's the type of player you take a risk moving someone like Miller. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 42 minutes ago, Drew a Penalty said: Absolutely. $7.1M is $600k more than Kreider gets but for a P/GP player. Keller is more of what the NHL is trending toward with speed and skill. He's Kane-lite. He's the type of player you take a risk moving someone like Miller. I’ve had Miller at 4.5M. Add Goodrow’s 3.6 moved out in a separate deal makes 8.1M. That’s Keller plus 1M to replace Miller (Zac Jones?). I don’t think Miller is enough for Keller. Adding Lafreniere or Chytil is probably overkill, but Arizona is also armed tooth and nail with draft picks for the next 3 drafts. I could see the Rangers taking back draft capital for the purposes of deadline deals. Add Lafreniere and Arizona adds a couple of 2nd round picks. Miller/Lafreniere for Keller/2 2nds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 24 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said: I’ve had Miller at 4.5M. Add Goodrow’s 3.6 moved out in a separate deal makes 8.1M. That’s Keller plus 1M to replace Miller (Zac Jones?). I don’t think Miller is enough for Keller. Adding Lafreniere or Chytil is probably overkill, but Arizona is also armed tooth and nail with draft picks for the next 3 drafts. I could see the Rangers taking back draft capital for the purposes of deadline deals. Add Lafreniere and Arizona adds a couple of 2nd round picks. Miller/Lafreniere for Keller/2 2nds? https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/4225488 If the cap goes up more than $1M, you can put someone more appropriate than Othmann on the third line to let him develop. Or get a better option than Mikkola so Jones isn't thrown to the wolves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 27 minutes ago, Drew a Penalty said: https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/4225488 If the cap goes up more than $1M, you can put someone more appropriate than Othmann on the third line to let him develop. Or get a better option than Mikkola so Jones isn't thrown to the wolves. I could probably get behind this roster, but I’d have to think about it. It cock blocks the hell out of Kakko on the PP pretty permanently, unless the new coach is smart enough to get creative instead of overloading PP1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 18 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said: I could probably get behind this roster, but I’d have to think about it. It cock blocks the hell out of Kakko on the PP pretty permanently, unless the new coach is smart enough to get creative instead of overloading PP1. Kreider Zibanejad Trocheck Keller Fox Cuylle Panarin Chytil Kakko Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 25, 2023 Author Share Posted May 25, 2023 10 minutes ago, Drew a Penalty said: Kreider Zibanejad Trocheck Keller Fox Cuylle Panarin Chytil Kakko Jones I want to take Trocheck on a cross-Pacific ship cruise and have him conveniently get left stranded on a deserted island. After that, put Kakko in the bumper. Two birds, one stone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Just now, Phil said: I want to take Trocheck on a cross-Pacific ship cruise and have him conveniently get left stranded on a deserted island. After that, put Kakko in the bumper. Two birds, one stone! I would, but Kakko feels totally inappropriate in the bumper. He's not a quick shooter and is more of someone who needs space to control the puck. He works better on the wall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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