BlairBettsBlocksEverything Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 (edited) Edited August 16, 2022 by BlairBettsBlocksEverything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Let’s pool our money together! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 I know Knicks fans hate him but he really hasn’t been a terrible owner for the rangers. sans firing Gorton and Jd (and the jury is still out) I can’t find much to complain about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Heaven Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 22 minutes ago, siddious said: I know Knicks fans hate him but he really hasn’t been a terrible owner for the rangers. sans firing Gorton and Jd (and the jury is still out) I can’t find much to complain about. He was a terrible owner pre-Jaromir Jagr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 This only really affects Knicks fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 1 hour ago, siddious said: sans firing Gorton and Jd (and the jury is still out) Maybe. I'd argue early returns suggests that was a good decision. In fact, the only argument I can find against it is that JD is such a nice man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 50 minutes ago, Blue Heaven said: He was a terrible owner pre-Jaromir Jagr I dunno imo an owners job is to fund the team (which he did remarkably) and to hire the right guys to run it. Smith had just won a cup so he had a bit of a leash and he then brought in legendary gm sather (who we can have a separate thread on alone). Am I missing anything he did on the bad side because I can’t think of anything. 1 minute ago, Gravesy said: Maybe. I'd argue early returns suggests that was a good decision. In fact, the only argument I can find against it is that JD is such a nice man. yea I’m on the same boat however I will say I thought Gorton was on the right path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 48 minutes ago, Phil said: This only really affects Knicks fans. Unless the new owner gets heavily involved or invokes internal salary caps a la Dumbdumb in Carolina? I doubt it because we're one of the biggest market teams in the league, but there's always the outside chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 28 minutes ago, Cash or Czech said: Unless the new owner gets heavily involved or invokes internal salary caps a la Dumbdumb in Carolina? I doubt it because we're one of the biggest market teams in the league, but there's always the outside chance. Oh, if new ownership are hands on? Yeah, I guess. I just meant in terms of response. Rangers fans have no real reason to particularly care about this happening or not happening because he's mostly an absentee owner anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 9 minutes ago, Phil said: Oh, if new ownership are hands on? Yeah, I guess. I just meant in terms of response. Rangers fans have no real reason to particularly care about this happening or not happening because he's mostly an absentee owner anyway. They should care simply because he's an absentee owner - and that's let the Rangers get away with some shit that the Knicks could never strictly because he's an absentee owner. It's worth noting that he's easily one of the better, if not among the best owners in hockey almost entirely because of that. Money is never an issue. He's rarely if ever meddlesome. We see how ownership can cause problems elsewhere - even really rich owners like in Philly or Ottawa. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 3 hours ago, Blue Heaven said: He was a terrible owner pre-Jaromir Jagr possibly. We dont exactly know if he was telling Slats to sign and trade the future for every possible over the hill has been Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Bailing out the Islanders was the biggest mark against him. Right now, I'd prefer Dolan as the devil I know over some devil I don't know. Dolan was hands off, and I'm leery of a more hands on owner who thinks he knows something about hockey. I have a feeling that if you don't like micro ticket pricing and screwing season holders on playoffs, you may have seen nothing yet. The whole debacle of 1975 was prompted by a new corporate overseer getting active and forcing Francis to do things. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 2 hours ago, LindG1000 said: They should care simply because he's an absentee owner - and that's let the Rangers get away with some shit that the Knicks could never strictly because he's an absentee owner. It's worth noting that he's easily one of the better, if not among the best owners in hockey almost entirely because of that. Money is never an issue. He's rarely if ever meddlesome. We see how ownership can cause problems elsewhere - even really rich owners like in Philly or Ottawa. Right, I can understand this. 27 minutes ago, Sod16 said: Bailing out the Islanders was the biggest mark against him. Right now, I'd prefer Dolan as the devil I know over some devil I don't know. Dolan was hands off, and I'm leery of a more hands on owner who thinks he knows something about hockey. I have a feeling that if you don't like micro ticket pricing and screwing season holders on playoffs, you may have seen nothing yet. The whole debacle of 1975 was prompted by a new corporate overseer getting active and forcing Francis to do things. Agree completely with this. There's some appeal to having an owner who actually does know something, but they're rare. You're far more likely to end up with Eugene Melnyk than you are Tom Dundon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 3 hours ago, Phil said: Right, I can understand this. Agree completely with this. There's some appeal to having an owner who actually does know something, but they're rare. You're far more likely to end up with Eugene Melnyk than you are Tom Dundon. Charles Wang! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 In general, a change in team ownership is a funny thing- As a fan you want an owner committed to winning, not afraid to spend, who will hire the right people and get the fuck out of the way. In reality- you have a person who is really really good at what they do (or get born really lucky) and has know success at level I can't fathom. They are normally either the smartest, ballsiest, or most cunning person in the room.. They are dropping a billion plus depending on the league, its hard to check the ego and let the "professionals" manage it.. I live in Charlotte- Panthers new owner David Tepper is a fucking PR disaster.. He's done some good things, but the bad have been really visible.. In his mind he's the smartest guy in every room on planet earth and it shows in the management of his teams.. Football team is a mess... The MLS team is in year one and can't keep leadership staff, a member of the upper echelon of the management quits on almost a monthly basis.. Everyone here would probably take the old owner, sadly he was a dirty old man.. As @Sod16 correctly pointed out, the Devil you know is almost always better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 Is Knicks/Rangers a package deal or could someone buy the Rangers only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 Selling it of in pieces might make sense? Its a metric fuckton of money for the whole package.. Knicks are valued around 6 billion, Rangers at about 2 billion, Msg at about 3.5 billion... You are looking at a precious few people in this world that can peel off 12 billion dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 (edited) If he's selling everything, I feel like something is up. Like they are definitely getting booted out of MSG by asscunt Hochul (cause you know she'll be back, as NY MUST vote the way it does) and he can't find a reasonable building ground for a new arena, or can't get enough public funding to eat most of the cost. I'm sure Cablevision or whatever it's called now is taking a big hit on cable cancelations. But the teams always do well. I don't know how an almost obsolete cable product can have a tie to the Knicks and Rangers, but it seems fishy that Dolan would sell the teams. That's his "in" with the rich crowd and the teams are an automatic money maker. This worries me for some reason. If this is true, my conspiracy mind thinks there's something else going on here and if there is a new owner a big can of worms will be opened and the teams may have to suffer. No way Dolan has all of this set up on "the up and up" for this long. A new owner is going to get burned. Long winded no facts given nonsense over. Sorry. Edited August 20, 2022 by The Dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 I would think selling it off in pieces would interfere with the highly lucrative practice of selling suites to all Garden events. It ropes suite subscribers into buying tickets to the dog show (not that I wouldn't prefer that to a Knicks game). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 Corp restructure? https://nypost.com/2022/08/20/msg-entertainment-proposes-separate-company-for-madison-square-garden-radio-city-music-hall/?utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 He’s an idiot if he sells. It would have to be a gross overpayment. Horrible idea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 9 hours ago, Bugg said: Corp restructure? https://nypost.com/2022/08/20/msg-entertainment-proposes-separate-company-for-madison-square-garden-radio-city-music-hall/?utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter Separately they all the companies would be worth more. If he were to sell, that’s the way to do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 7 hours ago, RangersIn7 said: He’s an idiot if he sells. It would have to be a gross overpayment. Horrible idea. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arty Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 Never going to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Br4d Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Dolan's been a bad owner for the Knicks because he thinks he understands basketball. He's been very neutral for the Rangers because he knows he knows nothing about hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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