Keirik Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 28 minutes ago, Pete said: He's also a great colleges coach LOL. I mean people saying he's clueless out here. Come on. You mean me lol. I said he’s clueless. With us, he was in my opinion. Not 100% his fault. He was thrown to the wolves but the second he left, everything changed. This team isn’t more talented than it was under Quinn. It’s just playing like a team. Everything about this team is completely different. I never got the feeling the players bought into anything Quinn said. Part of it are roster changes but a lot of it is also because of who we have behind the bench. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Keirik said: You mean me lol. I said he’s clueless. With us, he was in my opinion. Not 100% his fault. He was thrown to the wolves but the second he left, everything changed. This team isn’t more talented than it was under Quinn. It’s just playing like a team. Everything about this team is completely different. I never got the feeling the players bought into anything Quinn said. Part of it are roster changes but a lot of it is also because of who we have behind the bench. I agree to a point... but I wouldn't say everything is completely different. I mean the entire lineup and defensive pairings are pretty much the same. And it's not really like you can say "well anyone would do that". Anyone would pair Mika with Panarin. Nobody would have put Strome with Panarin. You don't become a highly successful college coach and land multiple NHL interviews and wind up with head coaching job in New York by being clueless. Edited January 4, 2022 by Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, Pete said: I agree to a point... but I wouldn't say everything is completely different. I mean the entire lineup and defensive pairings are pretty much the same. And it's not really like you can say "well anyone would do that". Anyone would pair Mika with Panarin. Nobody would have put Strome with Panarin. You don't become a highly successful college coach and land multiple NHL interviews and wind up with head coaching job in New York by being clueless. Yes and no. Clearly he looks good on paper and had a plan that got him passed the interview and into a HC position. I just though that by year 3, the constant line switching, benchings, rolling guys that shouldn’t be playing anywhere near as much, not showing up early in games, etc just showed that he really had no answer and was I’ll prepared for this roster. I wish him well. I’m just extremely happy he’s gone from this organization. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Keirik said: I just though that by year 3, the constant line switching, benchings, rolling guys that shouldn’t be playing anywhere near as much, not showing up early in games, etc just showed that he really had no answer and was I’ll prepared for this roster. Yea, I get this. But to me, Brian Trottier was clueless. And this ain't that is all I'm saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, Pete said: Yea, I get this. But to me, Brian Trottier was clueless. And this ain't that is all I'm saying. Lol well fair enough. You def have me beat on that one. Cant argue that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Good hire, good coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) Guy has taken what is pretty much the exact same roster as last year, plugged in an over priced checking forward, an AHL shit forward and a tough guy and turned the whole direction and mentality back around to a confident bunch with a chip on their shoulder. He's made it work again (IMO this team was going places if not for the 1st shortened covid season, they were on one of those rolls). Definitely deserves credit for taking the same roster as last year and turning them into one of the top teams in the game. No other coach is doing that for another team. Most teams have actually taken a step back if you think about it.. Minnesota has improved. Florida was this good at seasons end last year.. mehhh, I don't understand how Nashville is as good as they are though...Boudreau may be in the process now with Vancouver. I'm very impressed with Gallant. Love how he uses the players in roles they actually fit in. Edited January 5, 2022 by The Dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Pittsburgh at 10 games over NHL .500 is something I thought I'd never see too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliveIn94 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Sharpshooter said: Pittsburgh at 10 games over NHL .500 is something I thought I'd never see too. Sullivan's a good coach. Pittsburgh also rebuilt its bottom 6 depth, maybe their defense is better too. Sam and Joe kept talking about Rodrigues having a career year, some coaches can get that out of longshot players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, AliveIn94 said: Sullivan's a good coach. Pittsburgh also rebuilt its bottom 6 depth, maybe their defense is better too. Sam and Joe kept talking about Rodrigues having a career year, some coaches can get that out of longshot players. He is a good coach, yeah. They're still a surprise to me, though. Also, Jarry has been very good in goal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 It was Quinn’s first time being a head coach in the NHL. He wasn’t bad. He wasn’t perfect. He made some mistakes, but didn’t bomb to the point he’ll never land another NHL job. Unfortunately for him, he was never going to be the guy to lead this team on a playoff run or anything. He did what he had to do; he helped developed some of these guys. But as far as taking the next step, I always believed they were better off with a veteran coach at this point. Sometimes, guys who have been around the block just have a better pulse on the locker room and on what it takes to take the next step. We’re in the process of doing that now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 When you look at this team and the possibility of individual awards... Jack Adams, Vezina, Rocket Richard, Norris.....and the presidents trophy for the team. We literally have a viable candidate for each (though I assume Kreider floats away from the R.R) WOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 16 minutes ago, jsm7302 said: When you look at this team and the possibility of individual awards... Jack Adams, Vezina, Rocket Richard, Norris.....and the presidents trophy for the team. We literally have a viable candidate for each (though I assume Kreider floats away from the R.R) WOW. Lady Byng for Fox/Panarin? Hart Trophy for Panarin? But yeah, lots of possibilities Jsm!!! .....Oh and a Selke for Kakko!!! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 I'm surprised that after Thursday's game, Phil hasn't changed the title of this thread to, "It's Time to Start Talking Jack Daniels" LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cr00zng Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 ESPN+ seems to believe that Gallant could have his second Jack Adams Award, especially with Shesterkin in goal : Quote Impact on the team: In hiring Gallant, the Rangers opted for the opposite of Quinn. Instead of overcoaching, Gallant has the reputation for gut calls over X's and O's. Instead of micro-managing, Gallant is known for working with and empowering his players, which was one of the ingredients in his secret sauce that enabled the Golden Knights to make the Stanley Cup Final in their inaugural season. But he also had a reputation for demanding accountability for players who didn't buy into his coaching philosophy. Under Gallant, the Rangers have been one of the most curious teams in the NHL. The standings success doesn't sync up with the putridity of their underlying numbers. They're still starkly bad at 5-on-5. The Rangers earn 44.8% of the shot attempts, which is worst in the NHL, and have an expected goals percentage of 45.9%, which is fourth worst, ahead of only Montreal, Buffalo and Arizona. But those numbers are finally trending in the right direction. Can he win the Jack Adams? He's got the best goalie in the NHL. Of course he can win the Jack Adams. Source If the trend continue in the right direction, he may just get his second one.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Show me a good coach, I'll show you a good goalie. But, yes, absolutely he should be among the finalists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 26 minutes ago, Phil said: Show me a good coach, I'll show you a good goalie. But, yes, absolutely he should be among the finalists. This is really all there is to it. Like, the players can talk all they want about how they love Gallant's style and I'm sure they do, but realistically if it wasn't for Shesterkin no one would be talking about this team or Gallant because they'd be a bubble team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Short of playing Mckegg over Barron, keeping Hunt in the line-up, and making Gauthier the new Howden (all minor issues) I dont really have much of an issue with anything Gallant has done. I think he has handled Kakko and Laf really well and for the most part kept the lines and message on point all season long. I think hes going to get serious consideration since it seems like they almost always give this to a coach who has a good season with a team who over achieves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valriera Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 The narrative around the goalie is important, but there are two things here that are hard to place anywhere but a new coach: the powerplay and jacob trouba. Both have gone from really, really bad to really, really good in his season. Maybe there's more to it than meets the eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Valriera said: The narrative around the goalie is important, but there are two things here that are hard to place anywhere but a new coach: the powerplay and jacob trouba. Both have gone from really, really bad to really, really good in his season. Maybe there's more to it than meets the eye. Lest not forget the unveiling of the new Chris Kreider. The ultimate swagger in a locker room that was void of all direction and cohesion. Hands down.....I dont think you can argue someone else has turned a roster from the bottom of the league to a possible cup contender this year. It is a no brainer for me and that is from my head not my heart. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Kreider did an amazing amount of self work which I will not give Gallant credit for. Kreider simply reframed his mindset on his own. He spoke of it. I don't give Gallant credit for Shesty either. The Rangers are not a good defensive team. Shesty cover a lot of holes. I give GG a tom of credit for having them playing loose and comfortable, confident and well prepared for games, moreso than Quinn. I also don't see nearly as many bench minors for too many men. But there's a lot that hasn't changed like not playing a full 60. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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