Ozzy Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 I really like Kane, but any chance we don't need to trade for him at the deadline??? I sure as hell don't wanna see Kakko go packing for a rental. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 4, 2023 Author Share Posted January 4, 2023 14 minutes ago, Pete said: He wouldn't leave in the middle of a game for that. I know, I was kidding. Hope for him it's minor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, Ozzy said: I really like Kane, but any chance we don't need to trade for him at the deadline??? I sure as hell don't wanna see Kakko go packing for a rental. Kakko ain’t going anywhere no more. I think we can rest easy on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, rmc51 said: Kakko ain’t going anywhere no more. I think we can rest easy on that one. He heard that I had him on the block. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Just now, rmc51 said: Kakko ain’t going anywhere no more. I think we can rest easy on that one. I hope so, RMC! I've been riding the "Kakko train" since he got here, and I'm really digging watching him become a pretty good NHL player now. I'd like to see us take a swing at it this year by only making those "Buy Low" trades @Phil mentioned in the other thread. We did superb last year with that approach. I'm not denying Kane, because I'm a pretty big fan of his, but I'm just curious to see how we'd do with the kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Ozzy said: I really like Kane, but any chance we don't need to trade for him at the deadline??? I sure as hell don't wanna see Kakko go packing for a rental. None of them are going packing for a rental. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Phil said: Seems a bit early for the trade deadline "injury" vacation, but OK. It's a close race for Bedard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Pete said: He heard that I had him on the block. Are you Eklund too??? Or maybe John Spanos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 Quote Kane missed some time recently and two league sources confirmed reports already out there that the Hawks winger is dealing with a lingering issue that will require surgery. If Kane decides to shut it down now and have the surgery he’s off the trade board and likely heads to free agency in the offseason. If he plays through the pain, he could potentially be moved at the deadline and have surgery when his season’s done, pushing back his start time for 2023-24, which could complicate his free-agency choices. Not ideal for Kane or the Hawks. For the Rangers it’s probably not a huge blow — they were likely to be in on Kane, especially if the player requested to only be moved to the Rangers, which would have kept the trade price low. Now it’s hard to see Drury having a keen interest in a player everyone knows is fighting through something and may not be helpful down the stretch or into the playoffs. Kane’s decision should come soon. If he opts for surgery now, that tightens the higher end of the trade market a bit. But it could save the Rangers from having to make an unpleasant decision. https://theathletic.com/4104473/2023/01/19/rangers-trade-deadline-patrick-kane-filip-chytil-contract/?source=emp_shared_article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Move along Drury. Not something we should remotely be interested in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Gonna really need a long look at the medical on him. Tarasenko too. And if it’s bad and they go against the medical… it’s their own fault if it doesn’t work out. Talk to the Bruins about Kluzak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 25 minutes ago, jsm7302 said: Move along Drury. Not something we should remotely be interested in. That is perhaps the case. If the prognosis is surely that… he shouldn’t be gotten. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) Have to wonder what the injury is that will take 4+ months to rehab and push back his start next season, or miss the rest of this one... Edited January 19, 2023 by Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, Pete said: Have to wonder what the injury is that will take 4+ months to rehab and push back his start next season, or miss the rest of this one... Best speculation is that he needs arthroscopic, rest and rehab. Its not serious in true scope. But short term, that’s bad. If it’s serious enough to where he won’t need more than a maintenance day or it could deteriorate to where he can’t play, or isn’t effective or worse when he does play, then I think you look elsewhere. But if what he needs is just some rest and daily treatment for 3 months vs a right now clean out and such and the stuff nagging and he’s 34, etc., fine. Have to be certain on the medical and can’t ignore it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 2 hours ago, RangersIn7 said: Best speculation is that he needs arthroscopic, rest and rehab. Its not serious in true scope. But short term, that’s bad. If it’s serious enough to where he won’t need more than a maintenance day or it could deteriorate to where he can’t play, or isn’t effective or worse when he does play, then I think you look elsewhere. But if what he needs is just some rest and daily treatment for 3 months vs a right now clean out and such and the stuff nagging and he’s 34, etc., fine. Have to be certain on the medical and can’t ignore it. Just feels like they should have shut him down earlier. Why were they letting him stink it up on a bad team? Complete asset mismanagement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Pete said: Just feels like they should have shut him down earlier. Why were they letting him stink it up on a bad team? Complete asset mismanagement. Simple answer. Cause with that injury, there’s a chance you can play through it under the right circumstances. Final answer yet to be determined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) 18 hours ago, Pete said: Just feels like they should have shut him down earlier. Why were they letting him stink it up on a bad team? Complete asset mismanagement. Agreed. Shut him down in November and if he gets the surgery right away he has all of December, January, February to rest/rehab if all it needs is 3 months. Then he has a few weeks to get back into game shape just in time for the TDL. Did this injury happen during this season or has this been lingering? I don't remember it being mentioned here. If he came into the season with it then why bother even starting the season? Get it taken care of early on and he would have been back by now. Edited January 20, 2023 by SaveByRichter35 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 I don’t, for a second, believe this is an injury that will require surgery this season. Maybe come summer. But I would imagine the Blackhawks wouldn’t fumble this and I imagine Kane wouldn’t fumble the opportunity to have a chance at a new contract and a chance to play for a contender. I still think he gets dealt, probably here, I a few weeks provided his medical is clear. He probably does have something he’s dealing with. But I imagine by now, it would have been addressed. The injury he just sat out a few games for was from a hit he took against San Jose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, RichieNextel305 said: I don’t, for a second, believe this is an injury that will require surgery this season. Maybe come summer. But I would imagine the Blackhawks wouldn’t fumble this and I imagine Kane wouldn’t fumble the opportunity to have a chance at a new contract and a chance to play for a contender. I still think he gets dealt, probably here, I a few weeks provided his medical is clear. He probably does have something he’s dealing with. But I imagine by now, it would have been addressed. The injury he just sat out a few games for was from a hit he took against San Jose. I believe he's still on IR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Pete said: I believe he's still on IR. Nope, he came back a few games ago. He’s played the last 2 for Chicago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Pete said: Just feels like they should have shut him down earlier. Why were they letting him stink it up on a bad team? Complete asset mismanagement. Yeah. But look at their recent/summer moves. Not exactly the most sensible moves. They're a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 It's getting closer to a Kane/Panarin reunion! Who's excited!? I would be more excited for it if it was 2017 or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 20, 2023 Author Share Posted January 20, 2023 18 hours ago, Pete said: Just feels like they should have shut him down earlier. Why were they letting him stink it up on a bad team? Complete asset mismanagement. Yup. My guess is they literally just took him at his word. "You feeling OK?" "Yeah, I'm fine, just a little sore." Then weeks go by and they're like... "are you sure you're OK? Let's see a doc, maybe?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 We are really at the point where serious self awareness is critically important.. Is this team 1 player away from beating Boston or Carolina.. or Tampa.. hell, Pittsburgh or Jersey in 7? I don't think so, and I'm foolishly optimistic by nature. If that one guy- Kane, Meier, Tarasenko, Horvat can push you over, its absolutely worth the haul required, and the cap pain next year. I just don't see volunteering for cap fuckery in 2023-24 coupled with dealing assets when I still don't feel great about getting out of the 1st round. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 18 minutes ago, Flynn said: We are really at the point where serious self awareness is critically important.. Is this team 1 player away from beating Boston or Carolina.. or Tampa.. hell, Pittsburgh or Jersey in 7? I don't think so, and I'm foolishly optimistic by nature. If that one guy- Kane, Meier, Tarasenko, Horvat can push you over, its absolutely worth the haul required, and the cap pain next year. I just don't see volunteering for cap fuckery in 2023-24 coupled with dealing assets when I still don't feel great about getting out of the 1st round. You know what, Flynner....You have a solid point here. I was very disheartened watching that "display" last night. We weren't even playing badly. I thought we had some pretty good opportunities to score, and also played a solid 50 minutes of that 60, only to come away with a loss at home, against a team on a back to back, against their #2 goalie. The effort was actually there last night, and yet it didn't even look like we were in their league. Maybe we should roll the dice with what we've got. No need to swing for the roof knowing full well that we may very well NOT have the horses to contend for a Cup this season. I know that won't be a popular decision for some, and likely not Dolan, but right now I'm not feeling like we're just one or two players away. Not only that, but I also feel like this team needs structural help defensively, and also offensively....They're make the same mistakes seemingly every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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