Phil Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 17 hours ago, BlairBettsBlocksEverything said: is it possible to waive/bury debrusks contract in hartford without any cap hit? if so I'd say Hajek is worth it. no risk, potentially high reward this is all a moot point though because there's no way they just give him to use 1 for 1 for Hajek anyway No. He requires waivers, first of all, which he wouldn't get through, and even if he did, you can't stash large deals like this anymore (Redden rule). You only get a fraction of the savings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 3 hours ago, Pete said: I don't want DeBrusk but people keep saying this...I just want to point out that Hunt at 26 has played 110 games and scored 9 goals and 28 points, so figure that pace at 220 games he'd have 60 points. In 262 games DeBrusk has 140 points. Hunt just isn't close, he's filler. Again, I don't want him, but not because we have Hunt. You could have said the same thing about Blackwell last year. If Hunt stays with Bread and Butter his previous point pace is irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Long live the King said: You could have said the same thing about Blackwell last year. If Hunt stays with Bread and Butter his previous point pace is irrelevant. And if Debrusk was with bread and butter he'd probably score more than Hunt. He's just a better player, I don't know why anyone would debate that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, Pete said: And if Debrusk was with bread and butter he'd probably score more than Hunt. He's just a better player, I don't know why anyone would debate that. he once had potential to be a better player. Right now, he's invisible, doesnt go to the dirty areas, a detriment on d, doesnt kill penalties, doesnt take faceoffs, doesnt play physical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 Just now, josh said: he once had potential to be a better player. Right now, he's invisible, doesnt go to the dirty areas, a detriment on d, doesnt kill penalties, doesnt take faceoffs, doesnt play physical. You could say all this about Hunt. And the box car and fancy stats don't support that Debrusk is a detriment on D, also his PDO is in the low 90s last few seasons, suggesting he's quite unlucky. That said, I don't want DeBrusk because he's not a LW. I'm not going to debate more about a player I don't want. His stock has fallen and he's not producing but he's still much better than Hunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, Pete said: You could say all this about Hunt. And the box car and fancy stats don't support that Debrusk is a detriment on D, also his PDO is in the low 90s last few seasons, suggesting he's quite unlucky. That said, I don't want DeBrusk because he's not a LW. I'm not going to debate more about a player I don't want. His stock has fallen and he's not producing but he's still much better than Hunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 Hunt plays a fast, physical forechecking role that gets in position to shoot. He'll go to the corners, to the front of the net, muck it up, hit people. That's what the Rangers need. The lack of which is exactly when Boston scratched DeBrusk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 (edited) 47 minutes ago, josh said: All that and still a 54 Corsi to Hunt's 46 (this year, that card you have there is last season). Show us Hunt's card...Because that's the debate. Not if DeBrusk is good, it's if Hunt is better. Hint: He's not. Edited December 2, 2021 by Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 Hunt/DeBrusk is as simple as this: Hunt isn't a better player, head-to-head, but relative to his price, he is. I'd rather pay $750K for 17 points than $3.675M for 27. Ten points isn't worth an extra $2.95M for a player with arbitration rights who's due another deal immediately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Phil said: Hunt/DeBrusk is as simple as this: Hunt isn't a better player, head-to-head, but relative to his price, he is. I'd rather pay $750K for 17 points than $3.675M for 27. Ten points isn't worth an extra $2.95M for a player with arbitration rights who's due another deal immediately. Right. And like I said, I don't want Debrusk, but the idea that it's because we have Hunt is...no. I don't think anyone sees Hunt as a long term solution on that line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 17 minutes ago, Pete said: All that and still a 54 Corsi to Hunt's 46 (this year, that card you have there is last season). Show us Hunt's card...Because that's the debate. Not if DeBrusk is good, it's if Hunt is better. Hint: He's not. dont matter. @Drew a Penalty already posted stats saying the 4th line was unlucky defensively. but again, youre missing the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 15 minutes ago, josh said: but again, youre missing the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 nah, you're caught up in a slight difference in advanced stats, and ignoring why Hunt has been successful (in a short period) on that line. DeBrusk has none of those characteristics. "but Hunt's defense is slightly worse!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 37 minutes ago, Pete said: Right. And like I said, I don't want Debrusk, but the idea that it's because we have Hunt is...no. I don't think anyone sees Hunt as a long term solution on that line. Agreed. Though I do agree with Josh in that they're not the same style of player. Hunt is the poorest man's version of Fast. DeBrusk is like a shitty Brock Boeser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 16 minutes ago, josh said: nah, you're caught up in a slight difference in advanced stats, and ignoring why Hunt has been successful (in a short period) on that line. DeBrusk has none of those characteristics. "but Hunt's defense is slightly worse!" Right, so we agree that he's not a long term solution...Hence when I say "We don't need DeBrusk, but it's not because of Hunt", where is the disconnect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 Blais sure is missed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Quote Jake DeBrusk: Could a deal for Rangers forward Filip Chytil make sense for both sides? https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/rink-fries-10-interesting-nhl-trade-candidates-watch/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 fuck that. What's his qualifying offer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Yeah why not, I’m done with chytil at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 DeBrusk is listed as a LW everywhere. Is this a Laf replacement? Because it isn't solving our RW issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valriera Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 I'd trade chytil for a haircut at this point 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 If you trade Chytil, I guess the thought process is to put Goodrow back at C? I’d rather obtain a real 3c through a package. Let’s say 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 26 minutes ago, Cash or Czech said: DeBrusk is listed as a LW everywhere. Is this a Laf replacement? Because it isn't solving our RW issue. Yup, this has been the problem since the first time he was mentioned. Unless he can play RW, or they're moving Lafreniere to the right, this is a waste of time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Why are we interested in any of these janky 20 point players? Get me a real hockey player. As for Hunt, he was supposed to be an extra forward this year. The fact that he's on the second line proves how badly we need to find a RW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 To be fair the last 2.5 seasons for Strome before we acquired him: NYI: 30p 69gp EDM: 34p 82gp EDM: 2p 18gp I can understand trying to trade garbage into gold again with a reclamation project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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