Forget Eichel, Get Giroux

[Albatrosss]

1 minute ago, G1000 said:

He had the Flyers by the nuts, even though his head was completely done by then.

Fun fact - if Lindros was concussed at any point during the first 50 games of the 01-02 season, the Rangers would have been transferred the draft pick that ultimately became Mike Richards. Which, of course, we'd have used on Brian Boyle.

hmmm intersting.  never heard of that arrangement 

[Albatrosss]

4 minutes ago, Vodka Drunkenski said:

I think it makes our team deeper and more dangerous on the 3rd line center.  Move him up if we are down or just to shake things up.  But much rather him taking faceoffs and playing his natural spot, or is he a winger?

he's a C but Mike says he plays W too.  i've never seen him play W.  

if he can play 3C and move Chytil to RW.  Chytil has a pretty good shot and Giroux can set him up nicely

[Blue Heaven]

12 minutes ago, G1000 said:

He had the Flyers by the nuts, even though his head was completely done by then.

Fun fact - if Lindros was concussed at any point during the first 50 games of the 01-02 season, the Rangers would have been transferred the draft pick that ultimately became Mike Richards. Which, of course, we'd have used on Brian Boyle.

New York sent left wing Jan Hlavac, defenseman Kim Johnsson, young forward Pavel Brendl and a third-round draft pick in 2003 to the Flyers, for Lindros 

Richards was drafted in the 1st round

Brian Boyle was drafted by the LA Kings

Edited December 9, 2021 by Blue Heaven

[4EverRangerFrank]

Can Giroux tutor our guys on face-offs too? I thought Mess was doing this, or Drury even, years ago, but it certainly doesn't seem like the lessons worked. 

[LindG1000]

30 minutes ago, Blue Heaven said:

New York sent left wing Jan Hlavac, defenseman Kim Johnsson, young forward Pavel Brendl and a third-round draft pick in 2003 to the Flyers, for Lindros 

Richards was drafted in the 1st round

Brian Boyle was drafted by the LA Kings

And like we, in 2003, after picking a guy for being a physical specimen, would have picked Mike Richards in favor of the 6'7 behemoth Brian Boyle?

[phillyb]

1 hour ago, Keirik said:

Did someone say Brian Boyle? 

Gimme my boy

[Ozzy]

5 minutes ago, phillyb said:

Gimme my boy

You were in our thoughts last night, Philly! 

[josh]

Isn't Mike Richards still only 31 years old?

[LindG1000]

10 minutes ago, josh said:

Isn't Mike Richards still only 31 years old?

nah man he was drafted in 03. He's gotta be like 36

[Phil]

1. French-Canadian friend/mentor to Lafreniere.
2. Kills C, and RW depth issues with one stone.
3. Face-off ace (currently 62.0%, career 55.6%)
4. 73 points in 85 playoff games.
5. UFA at end of season.

To summarize: get me my boy.

[LindG1000]

Rectify a great wrong and bring Giroux home baby

[Keirik]

31 minutes ago, Phil said:

1. French-Canadian friend/mentor to Lafreniere.
2. Kills C, and RW depth issues with one stone.
3. Face-off ace (currently 62.0%, career 55.6%)
4. 73 points in 85 playoff games.
5. UFA at end of season.

To summarize: get me my boy.

I’d have no problem with it as long as the ask isn’t way too high. He is their C after all.

[RJWantsTheCup]

Does Giroux have a no trade claus of any kind?  If so, why would he want to be the 3rd line center for the Rangers?

If not, if the price is right do it.

[Phil]

24 minutes ago, Keirik said:

I’d have no problem with it as long as the ask isn’t way too high. He is their C after all.

Sure, but I think more is made of that on the fan front than the front office. They traded Lindros here. They can trade Giroux, too. You just need to sell it to them on the right conditions, similar to the Rangers when they sent The Letter™. I mean, I know it's not apples to apples, and the players meant less to us than Giroux did/does to the Flyers, but let's not forget that New York sent multiple players out into their own conference. Nash and Holden to Boston, Grabner to the Devils, Miller and McDonagh to the Lightning, Staal to the Wings, etc.

[Phil]

Just now, RJWantsTheCup said:

Does Giroux have a no trade claus of any kind?  If so, why would he want to be the 3rd line center for the Rangers?

If not, if the price is right do it.

1. Yes, full No-Move, so he controls his own fate.

2. Who says he's their third-line center? He could be their "first" line RW.

3. They're almost certainly a playoff team and a trade to New York wouldn't require him uprooting his family.

[Keirik]

11 minutes ago, Phil said:

Sure, but I think more is made of that on the fan front than the front office. They traded Lindros here. They can trade Giroux, too. You just need to sell it to them on the right conditions, similar to the Rangers when they sent The Letter™. I mean, I know it's not apples to apples, and the players meant less to us than Giroux did/does to the Flyers, but let's not forget that New York sent multiple players out into their own conference. Nash and Holden to Boston, Grabner to the Devils, Miller and McDonagh to the Lightning, Staal to the Wings, etc.

I think it's partly that and also partly depending on how comfortable the two GMs are with their jobs

 If you trade to a rival and give pieces that end up being significant, you do run the risk of being "that guy" that dealt a guy that comes back to haunt your franchise and all that. 

 But yeah, teams do trade more these days. But there is a big difference between trading a guy you see 2 times a year as opposed to 5 or more depending on playoffs. 

[The Dude]

Guy really does perform in the playoffs.  Buuuut. He has won nothing.

Mad good fit for team needs though. Always respected the Flyer forwards from their prime years. Schenn, Voracek, Giroux, Simmonds and Hartnell always were hard to play against,  but I don't recall any of them ever crossing that line. 

The cost being suggested isn't terrible. I'd prefer more coming back. If they are having a fire sale, get more. 

Get some cheap depth. 

Brassard and Yandle are UFAs to be on 900k contracts. 

 

One stop shop.

 

Edited December 9, 2021 by The Dude

[Phil]

3 hours ago, The Dude said:

Guy really does perform in the playoffs.  Buuuut. He has won nothing.

Mad good fit for team needs though. Always respected the Flyer forwards from their prime years. Schenn, Voracek, Giroux, Simmonds and Hartnell always were hard to play against,  but I don't recall any of them ever crossing that line. 

The cost being suggested isn't terrible. I'd prefer more coming back. If they are having a fire sale, get more. 

Get some cheap depth. 

Brassard and Yandle are UFAs to be on 900k contracts. 

 

One stop shop.

 

Not a bad idea on Brassard, but I've got no interest in Yandle. He's done.

[RJWantsTheCup]

Wouldn’t want Yandle or Brassard.  
Wonder how many games Giroux has played right wing in his career?

[Pete]

12 minutes ago, Phil said:

Not a bad idea on Brassard, but I've got no interest in Yandle. He's done.

Crazy that Yandle paced 40 pts last year.

I have to think he's just not a good fit on that team

[Phil]

Could be, yeah. Or sure wasn't for AV. I guess at that price, he can't cost very much, but he looks so bad this year.

[jsm7302]

Got a wierd feeling this will gain traction towards February. That would be a helluva deadline heading into our first playoff experience in a while. Shouldnt cost us more than assets we can afford to lose. Kravtsov, ? and a second rounder, 

[RichieNextel305]

On 12/9/2021 at 1:56 PM, CCCP said:

hmmm intersting.  never heard of that arrangement 

Me neither.

And didn’t Lindros actually sustain a concussion in December of that season? He and the Rangers were rolling until then, and he took a hit in San Jose and he cooled off a bit after that; as did the Rangers.

[Albatrosss]

10 minutes ago, RichieNextel305 said:

Me neither.

And didn’t Lindros actually sustain a concussion in December of that season? He and the Rangers were rolling until then, and he took a hit in San Jose and he cooled off a bit after that; as did the Rangers.

Good memory. I cant remember shit

[Pete]

1 hour ago, RichieNextel305 said:

Me neither.

And didn’t Lindros actually sustain a concussion in December of that season? He and the Rangers were rolling until then, and he took a hit in San Jose and he cooled off a bit after that; as did the Rangers.

Yea he punched himself in the head. Not even kidding, he was trying to lift his stick over someone and the knob hit him in the head, concussed.