Phil Posted April 26, 2021 Author Share Posted April 26, 2021 He might opt to bridge, until cap goes up. He probably should. Most guys should. Regardless, whatever Makar does (22, RFA this summer), is likely what Fox (RFA next summer, 23) will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 Where is that confounded bridge?? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 https://theathletic.com/2545581/2021/04/27/nhl-awards-watch-kirill-kaprizov-leads-the-calder-trophy-race-but-does-jason-robertson-have-a-case/ The most interesting thing about the list above is which player is not on it — the one many deem to be the front-runner. *mentally prepares self for impending backlash* I think Victor Hedman has played himself off the Norris ballot over the last month. There are simply far too many strong choices this season to give someone a reputation vote based on point totals and a strong start. ___ As for those who are worthy, it does feel like Fox should be running away with this. He now leads all defenders in points thanks to an insane 41 assists, but it’s his five-on-five play that makes him the most worthy. Despite facing some of the toughest competition in the league, Fox leads an otherwise unremarkable Rangers team with a 57 percent expected goals rate and 62 percent actual goals rate. Relative to teammates, he’s adding around half-a-goal per 60 in both categories, something no other defenseman can say. It’s difficult to win a Norris trophy in your first nomination as defenders usually have to wait their turn. Fox really shouldn’t. If he keeps this pace up, him losing due to a lack of reputation would be a travesty. He’s doing it all this year at both ends of the ice. Let's fucking go. Adam Brian Leetch James Norris Fox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphinity 2.0 Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 https://theathletic.com/2545581/2021/04/27/nhl-awards-watch-kirill-kaprizov-leads-the-calder-trophy-race-but-does-jason-robertson-have-a-case/ Let's fucking go. Adam Brian Leetch James Norris FoxAnd I don't want to hear the "but no playoffs" bullshit. I'll entertain the argument for the Hart (I still don't agree with it though), but it's irrelevant for the Norris. You can be the best defenseman in the league and still not have your team make the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 And I don't want to hear the "but no playoffs" bullshit. I'll entertain the argument for the Hart (I still don't agree with it though), but it's irrelevant for the Norris. You can be the best defenseman in the league and still not have your team make the playoffs. Agreed. I'd look at the team's general defensive numbers too. The Rangers are 9th in GA/game. Last year they were 23rd. Granted there were other changes, Staal out, DeAngelo out (great offense but always below average defensively), but the single greatest difference is Fox going from 19 minutes to 25 minutes a game. Hes just that good, and he's on the ice for close to half the game these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 And I don't want to hear the "but no playoffs" bullshit. I'll entertain the argument for the Hart (I still don't agree with it though), but it's irrelevant for the Norris. You can be the best defenseman in the league and still not have your team make the playoffs. Yeah its just dumb. So half the league‘s defenders will not be included? How is that the best in the league? Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Yeah, that's what I was saying before in an earlier post. It's a bunch of crap, even if it's how awards tend to work sometimes. Good read from The Athletic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 yeah..this playoff BS is BS. Norris trophy, among all other are given for the regular season performance. PLayoffs have their own awards. They award Rocket Richard trophy to leading goal scorer in the league during the regular season, regardless if his team made playoffs or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ozzy Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Link: Seems like a trivia question for tonight!!! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Seems like Leetch must own every rangers defenseman record. Was Leetch that good or was every rangers defenseman just so bad? I’m inclined to believe the latter. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Seems like Leetch must own every rangers defenseman record. Was Leetch that good or was every rangers defenseman just so bad? I’m inclined to believe the latter. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Leetch is 8th all time for points by a defenseman. Only reason he didn't win a bunch more Norris trophies is he played at the same time a Lidstrom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Leetch is 8th all time for points by a defenseman. Only reason he didn't win a bunch more Norris trophies is he played at the same time a Lidstrom. I would take Leetch over Lidstrom any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Only reason he did not win more Norris Trophies is that his play declined to some degree after 1997. I don't know if I want Fox to get the Norris. It will cost us about $2m in cap space and focus a lot of attention on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Only reason he did not win more Norris Trophies is that his play declined to some degree after 1997. I don't know if I want Fox to get the Norris. It will cost us about $2m in cap space and focus a lot of attention on him. The maximum bonus for winning an award is $250k. Fox's maximum bonuses are $850k which probably just reflects the maximum class A and not class B bonuses which awards fall into. He'll probably max out his bonuses this season, but in no world will they cost $2M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 The maximum bonus for winning an award is $250k. Fox's maximum bonuses are $850k which probably just reflects the maximum class A and not class B bonuses which awards fall into. He'll probably max out his bonuses this season, but in no world will they cost $2M. I think he meant on his next contract. Probably won't be 2 mill extra, but the "he's the best defender in the league" card his agent will play is gonna up the cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 27, 2021 Author Share Posted April 27, 2021 We have no idea what his next deal will be worth and won't have a real indication until the Avs extend Makar this off-season. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 I think winning the Norris could be the difference between 9 and 11 on the next contract. If he is on the 1st All Star team I guess it might be close to 11 anyway. At this point, I think he's close to an assured spot on the 2d team at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck Head Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 I would take Leetch over Lidstrom any day. Not I Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 Not I Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Traitor!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 It's too bad he "only" got one point last night. He was everywhere that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 Seems like Leetch must own every rangers defenseman record. Was Leetch that good or was every rangers defenseman just so bad? I’m inclined to believe the latter. He was THAT good, Nashty! Back when Leetch was a rookie, the only guys they were able to compare him to were Park, Greschner...and maybe Dave Maloney. Leetch was what I call, an "All timer". The guy was magic....plain and simple. The cool thing about Leetch's tenure is that during that time we were able to bring in this Zubov fella ;) ....Holy shit!!....you wanna see a power play with Leetch and Zubov at the points, and then Graves, Messier, and Kovalev up front?? It was like a dream team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddynyc Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 He was THAT good, Nashty! Back when Leetch was a rookie, the only guys they were able to compare him to were Park, Greschner...and maybe Dave Maloney. Leetch was what I call, an "All timer". The guy was magic....plain and simple. The cool thing about Leetch's tenure is that during that time we were able to bring in this Zubov fella ;) ....Holy shit!!....you wanna see a power play with Leetch and Zubov at the points, and then Graves, Messier, and Kovalev up front?? It was like a dream team! He was awesome the best Ranger player ever in my opinion with Hank a close second. FUCK Zubov was so slick what a mess getting rid of him Ozzy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 Ugh...To this day, I hated that trade, Paddy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 He was THAT good, Nashty! Back when Leetch was a rookie, the only guys they were able to compare him to were Park, Greschner...and maybe Dave Maloney. Leetch was what I call, an "All timer". The guy was magic....plain and simple. The cool thing about Leetch's tenure is that during that time we were able to bring in this Zubov fella ;) ....Holy shit!!....you wanna see a power play with Leetch and Zubov at the points, and then Graves, Messier, and Kovalev up front?? It was like a dream team! I only started watching in roughly 96/97 so I never got to see him dominate. He was good when I watched him but its crazy to me that he seems to have every record and most by a mile too. Time for some of them to be broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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