Drew a Penalty Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 IIRC if he does retire, he can’t come back mid season right? He has to file papers to retire and apply for reinstating at some point? Vaguely remember discussing it with MSL when he hung it up, and Kovy too I guess I've looked through the CBA on this issue multiple times and haven't found anything on it. This article on Kovalchuk's return to the NHL says: When Kovalchuk left the NHL, his contract was terminated and he was placed on the voluntary retirement list. That allowed the Devils to maintain his NHL rights until he turns 35, which would be April 15, 2018. Prior to turning 35, if Kovalchuk wants to sign with another team, he would need approval from all 31 NHL teams. That's unlikely to happen, but the Devils could sign Kovalchuk and either keep him or trade him. Lundqvist is over 35 so that isn't an issue. The issue being that I'm not sure how having one year left on his deal would affect his ability to unretire. Mike Fisher and Justin Williams are examples of players who retired during the summer only to come back the following season, but both were UFAs when they had retired. Lundqvist's situation is a bit more unprecedented if you tried going down the route you suggest. It bothers me that I can't find any literature to come to any conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Yep it'll be sad and officially the end of an era. But there's just so much promise with the team right now. And I can see a scenario where Hank moves into the front office somehow. It's bittersweet for sure. I can't pretend I'm not avoiding thinking about it until we finally have to put up the thread about it. Trying to save the emotions for that moment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 I've looked through the CBA on this issue multiple times and haven't found anything on it. This article on Kovalchuk's return to the NHL says: Lundqvist is over 35 so that isn't an issue. The issue being that I'm not sure how having one year left on his deal would affect his ability to unretire. Mike Fisher and Justin Williams are examples of players who retired during the summer only to come back the following season, but both were UFAs when they had retired. Lundqvist's situation is a bit more unprecedented if you tried going down the route you suggest. It bothers me that I can't find any literature to come to any conclusion. Found it. Phil said it so I’m not sure if he knows better or not. http://www.blueshirtsbrotherhood.com/showthread.php?16931-Ballsy-Predictions-Rangers-Edition-2015-2016&p=801826&viewfull=1#post801826 Sadly, My ballsy prediction didn’t come true :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Found it. Phil said it so I’m not sure if he knows better or not. http://www.blueshirtsbrotherhood.com/showthread.php?16931-Ballsy-Predictions-Rangers-Edition-2015-2016&p=801826&viewfull=1#post801826 Sadly, My ballsy prediction didn’t come true :( Mine either. Stepan still hasn't had a fight in the NHL. Pussy. But yeah I dunno where Phil got that from. Phil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Lol I actually even checked hockey fights to see if Steps did. I mean being in the league for over a decade and not fighting once is an accomplishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 It used to be that players who sign retirement papers, who then decided to "unretire," were barred from returning to the NHL for four years. It's why Kovalchuk couldn't return right away. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Lol I actually even checked hockey fights to see if Steps did. I mean being in the league for over a decade and not fighting once is an accomplishment. I think he may have gotten a roughing minor at some point. I distinctly remember getting excited. "Is this the moment?!?!" Nah. I really should've been predicting how many Bud Lites he was crushing in a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 It used to be that players who sign retirement papers, who then decided to "unretire," were barred from returning to the NHL for four years. It's why Kovalchuk couldn't return right away. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk The NHL article says that the stipulation was tied to Kovalchuk being under 35. So maybe the four years only pertained to Kovalchuk's particular situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 I'll look at it shortly. Getting my son to bed. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 I'll look at it shortly. Getting my son to bed. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Boy do I wish I could fall asleep at 8 PM...sans weed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Ambien lol plus there s a good hour long black out phase that’s great for some interesting conversations with the wife the following day “Keith, do you remember what you were doing last night????” Umm, maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Ambien lol plus there s a good hour long black out phase that’s great for some interesting conversations with the wife the following day “Keith, do you remember what you were doing last night????” Umm, maybe? I mean I've been there but with food wrappers strewn around so I can surmise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 If Lundquist hangs em up.... You guys are much more educated and knowledgeable with Rangers history than I. Best all time career Ranger draft pick?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Good times good times lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Heaven Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 I just don't see them buying him out or trading him. a) buyout is bad business and we've already got three non-rostered players on the books, including Shattenkirks enormous cap hit. b) trade isn't going to happen based on age, skill level, and contract. There's no reason any team would take him over the other goalies listed above other than as a favor to Gorton and JD. I can't say I don't see it happening regarding the buyout but I don't agree with it. Rangers are still rebuilding, they're most likely not winning the Cup next year....Let Lundqvist ride the season out as Shesterkin's backup (if he's willing to be a backup), mentor the kid. The cap will be flat this year and next year, can't afford another buyout cap hit for next season. You fully get his cap hit off the books after next season. Get some sort of capital with Georgiev by trading him, Rangers have had a multitude of success finding backup goalies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 If Lundquist hangs em up.... You guys are much more educated and knowledgeable with Rangers history than I. Best all time career Ranger draft pick?? Oh no doubt. It'll be hard for anyone to really replicate his career anywhere in the draft let alone in the 7th round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 If Lundquist hangs em up.... You guys are much more educated and knowledgeable with Rangers history than I. Best all time career Ranger draft pick?? If you mean by best diamond in the rough? You can make a case he’s too 10 nhl history for that. If you mean most accomplished Ranger pick, that’s still Leetch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 If you mean by best diamond in the rough? You can make a case he’s too 10 nhl history for that. If you mean most accomplished Ranger pick, that’s still Leetch. If he won a few Cups, he'd be hockey's Tom Brady as Brady was a 6th round pick. We'd be having discussions about Lundqvist being mentioned with guys like Hasek, Roy, and Brodeur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 I was narrowing the field a bit, but what I meant was a Ranger pick that spent his entire career as a Ranger and then retired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 If he won a few Cups, he'd be hockey's Tom Brady as Brady was a 6th round pick. We'd be having discussions about Lundqvist being mentioned with guys like Hasek, Roy, and Brodeur. I agree. And I wish it were true lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 I was narrowing the field a bit, but what I meant was a Ranger pick that spent his entire career as a Ranger and then retired. I still say Leetch because I refuse to acknowledge we traded him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 I was narrowing the field a bit, but what I meant was a Ranger pick that spent his entire career as a Ranger and then retired. He's one of the greatest Rangers ever. How great? I don't know and I don't really care to rank him against players I wasn't alive to see play. He's a generational player. The actual face of the franchise. When he's gone, it'll feel like something's missing... You can't say that about any other player on the team or any other player who's played for the team in the last 15 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 http:///www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPPyok-bcIk Not sure if this has been posted but Nick Kypreos says NHL players are talking about Hank retiring. Section about Hank at 59 minutes. I love Kyper!! He's always entertaining to me, 31! In a perfect world (to me), I'd like to see Hank play as Shesty's back up for one more season....Finish his contract and career here in NY, and then MSG have one helluva wiz-bang send off for him in April. The guy gave us more than anyone ever expected and he's had one awesome career here for 15 years or so. I realize hockey is also a business, but we have still a little too much baggage on the books, and still a little wet behind the ears to make any kind of a run at a Stanley Cup next season in my opinion, so why the hell not. ..Staal too. Albeit Staal, hasn't exactly been the face of the franchise like Hank, but he has spent his entire career here, and he was a pretty damn good player here for a long time before father time and injuries slowed his play. I dunno, that's just the way I'd like to see it go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ThirtyONE Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 I don't believe it. What's the point? You're buying him out for space but you have 12m in space taken up by buyouts and you have to trade player to make room for it. Makes absolutely no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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