Phil Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Link: Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 If the first is conditional on him re-signing or winning 1+ playoff series, maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrangers Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I think I would do that deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I don't think that's much of a surprise. It'll be interesting to see where the Rangers are at by the deadline. I could see Kreider being shipped and Kravstov coming up (assuming he's playing well in Hartford). But if they're somehow firmly in the playoffs, I don't think they can trade him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrangers Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Playoffs or not they're not going to hold onto him and risk getting nothing. With his play the way it is I wouldn't even consider signing him to a long term deal. More often than not he's a passenger. If you were to ask me two years ago I would of said they can't lose this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Needs to get traded They aren’t going to sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I don't tweet. Can any say what they propose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrangers Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Dreger thinks with Hall dealt Kreider will be the next target. Mentions there maybe talks of an extension but if/when moved he could bring back a 1st and mid-level prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Changed my tune on Kreider. Send him away for some picks; not going to be worth the price unless it is super team friendly. What's his expected value? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyckrash Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Needs to get traded They aren?t going to sign him.I agree. He will be dealt. To let him walk for nothing is bad asset management. NYCKrash......LGR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Kreider goes....deadline...hasta la vista baby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slobberknocker Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 i agree. need to move him for picks or a good asset and a pick. 2020 on the picks to be sure. love they guy, but giving him 7mln per ala, hayes is just bad management for a guy who is missing many nights on the ice. i always ref back to the old thread we had on him where his hits were brutal. thats the type of guy i wanted him to be. seems all that changed after he ran price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 18, 2019 Author Share Posted December 18, 2019 Changed my tune on Kreider. Send him away for some picks; not going to be worth the price unless it is super team friendly. What's his expected value? I'm gonna guess a first-round pick and a mid-level prospect. :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 i agree. need to move him for picks or a good asset and a pick. 2020 on the picks to be sure. love they guy, but giving him 7mln per ala, hayes is just bad management for a guy who is missing many nights on the ice. i always ref back to the old thread we had on him where his hits were brutal. thats the type of guy i wanted him to be. seems all that changed after he ran price. A 1st and a mid-range prospect would be a good return on him. If they can get that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I'm gonna guess a first-round pick and a mid-level prospect. :rofl: Phil, I'll fall out of my chair if we get a #1....no less a decent prospect in addition! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Title of this thread or not.....he does not fetch a first. No way. I look at the Zuccarello trade and see a similar return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 A first rounder? Maybe a couple of years ago (when they actually should've traded him), but not now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I think for sure he brings back a 1st rounder. Different type of player than Zuc. Most teams want to add physicality come playoff time and he can bring that (when he wants to). I think there will be numerous teams in on him and the demand will be high enough for some team to throw in a first. I'm not necessarily sure that's the return I'd want for him though. I'd rather a high-level prospect and a 3rd. Rangers are getting closer and a late 1st round pick will probably be 3 or 4 years away from helping. A high level prospect could be helping right when we need him the most...next year and the following years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I think for sure he brings back a 1st rounder. Different type of player than Zuc. Most teams want to add physicality come playoff time and he can bring that (when he wants to). I think there will be numerous teams in on him and the demand will be high enough for some team to throw in a first. I'm not necessarily sure that's the return I'd want for him though. I'd rather a high-level prospect and a 3rd. Rangers are getting closer and a late 1st round pick will probably be 3 or 4 years away from helping. A high level prospect could be helping right when we need him the most...next year and the following years. A high-level prospect is a pipe dream. No way he gets that. No way. A 1 and a mid-tier is a reach. Possible they don’t get a 1, though I think they are able to, it’s not a certainty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 1st or good prospect. Definitely not both. Unfortunately, this is going to get dragged out as the Rangers hope for a bidding war near the deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 1st or good prospect. Definitely not both. Unfortunately, this is going to get dragged out as the Rangers hope for a bidding war near the deadline. What do you mean by good? If you’re talking a top prospect, they would need the bidding war you mentioned to get near that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 A high-level prospect is a pipe dream. No way he gets that. No way. A 1 and a mid-tier is a reach. Possible they don’t get a 1, though I think they are able to, it’s not a certainty. Evander Kane's #'s, at the time of his trade to San Jose, are pretty damn close to Kreider's. Buffalo got a 1st, a 4th, and a player in return albeit not a very good player. Ryan Hartman returned a 1st to Chicago when he went to Nashville along with a 4th and a not so good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I'd rather see them get a good prospect over a later first. Heponiemi in Florida, Kaut in Colorado, idk Second, I'd take a 2nd and a fading prospect - Tolvanen, Vesalainen, Jost, Puljujarvi, maybe Kostin or Kunin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 18, 2019 Author Share Posted December 18, 2019 So, what’s next on the rental market? Or, who’s next? The obvious name is the Rangers’ Chris Kreider. The best predictor of future behaviour is past behaviour. Last season, the Rangers attempted to negotiate extensions with both Kevin Hayes and Mats Zuccarello right up until the deadline, with both getting dealt in the final days and hours. I don’t sense any rush there. And, the later in the year, the easier it is from a cap perspective. https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/31-thoughts-whos-next-nhl-rental-market/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 If you're going to deal him they should deal him now. Why risk injury and being left with nothing? Will the price really go up that much between now and the TDL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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