[tsn] First and a Mid-Level Prospect for Kreider?

[Phil]

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[BrooksBurner]

If the first is conditional on him re-signing or winning 1+ playoff series, maybe.

[Scott]

I think I would do that deal.

[ThirtyONE]

I don't think that's much of a surprise. It'll be interesting to see where the Rangers are at by the deadline. I could see Kreider being shipped and Kravstov coming up (assuming he's playing well in Hartford). But if they're somehow firmly in the playoffs, I don't think they can trade him.

[Scott]

Playoffs or not they're not going to hold onto him and risk getting nothing. With his play the way it is I wouldn't even consider signing him to a long term deal. More often than not he's a passenger. If you were to ask me two years ago I would of said they can't lose this guy.

[RangersIn7]

Needs to get traded

 

They aren’t going to sign him.

[The Dude]

I don't tweet. Can any say what they propose?

[Scott]

Dreger thinks with Hall dealt Kreider will be the next target. Mentions there maybe talks of an extension but if/when moved he could bring back a 1st and mid-level prospect.

[jsm7302]

Changed my tune on Kreider. Send him away for some picks; not going to be worth the price unless it is super team friendly. What's his expected value?

[nyckrash]

Needs to get traded

 

They aren?t going to sign him.

I agree. He will be dealt. To let him walk for nothing is bad asset management.

 

NYCKrash......LGR

[Ozzy]

Kreider goes....deadline...hasta la vista baby!

[Slobberknocker]

i agree. need to move him for picks or a good asset and a pick. 2020 on the picks to be sure.

 

love they guy, but giving him 7mln per ala, hayes is just bad management for a guy who is missing many nights on the ice.

 

i always ref back to the old thread we had on him where his hits were brutal. thats the type of guy i wanted him to be. seems all that changed after he ran price.

[Phil]

Changed my tune on Kreider. Send him away for some picks; not going to be worth the price unless it is super team friendly. What's his expected value?

 

I'm gonna guess a first-round pick and a mid-level prospect. :rofl:

[RangersIn7]

i agree. need to move him for picks or a good asset and a pick. 2020 on the picks to be sure.

 

love they guy, but giving him 7mln per ala, hayes is just bad management for a guy who is missing many nights on the ice.

 

i always ref back to the old thread we had on him where his hits were brutal. thats the type of guy i wanted him to be. seems all that changed after he ran price.

 

A 1st and a mid-range prospect would be a good return on him. If they can get that.

[Ozzy]

I'm gonna guess a first-round pick and a mid-level prospect. :rofl:

 

Phil, I'll fall out of my chair if we get a #1....no less a decent prospect in addition!

[jsm7302]

Title of this thread or not.....he does not fetch a first. No way. I look at the Zuccarello trade and see a similar return.

[Sharpshooter]

A first rounder? Maybe a couple of years ago (when they actually should've traded him), but not now.

[Kevin]

I think for sure he brings back a 1st rounder. Different type of player than Zuc. Most teams want to add physicality come playoff time and he can bring that (when he wants to). I think there will be numerous teams in on him and the demand will be high enough for some team to throw in a first. I'm not necessarily sure that's the return I'd want for him though. I'd rather a high-level prospect and a 3rd. Rangers are getting closer and a late 1st round pick will probably be 3 or 4 years away from helping. A high level prospect could be helping right when we need him the most...next year and the following years.

[RangersIn7]

I think for sure he brings back a 1st rounder. Different type of player than Zuc. Most teams want to add physicality come playoff time and he can bring that (when he wants to). I think there will be numerous teams in on him and the demand will be high enough for some team to throw in a first. I'm not necessarily sure that's the return I'd want for him though. I'd rather a high-level prospect and a 3rd. Rangers are getting closer and a late 1st round pick will probably be 3 or 4 years away from helping. A high level prospect could be helping right when we need him the most...next year and the following years.

 

A high-level prospect is a pipe dream. No way he gets that. No way.

 

A 1 and a mid-tier is a reach.

Possible they don’t get a 1, though I think they are able to, it’s not a certainty.

[Sod16]

1st or good prospect. Definitely not both. Unfortunately, this is going to get dragged out as the Rangers hope for a bidding war near the deadline.

[RangersIn7]

1st or good prospect. Definitely not both. Unfortunately, this is going to get dragged out as the Rangers hope for a bidding war near the deadline.

 

What do you mean by good?

 

If you’re talking a top prospect, they would need the bidding war you mentioned to get near that.

[Kevin]

A high-level prospect is a pipe dream. No way he gets that. No way.

 

A 1 and a mid-tier is a reach.

Possible they don’t get a 1, though I think they are able to, it’s not a certainty.

 

Evander Kane's #'s, at the time of his trade to San Jose, are pretty damn close to Kreider's. Buffalo got a 1st, a 4th, and a player in return albeit not a very good player.

 

Ryan Hartman returned a 1st to Chicago when he went to Nashville along with a 4th and a not so good player.

[josh]

I'd rather see them get a good prospect over a later first. Heponiemi in Florida, Kaut in Colorado, idk

 

Second, I'd take a 2nd and a fading prospect - Tolvanen, Vesalainen, Jost, Puljujarvi, maybe Kostin or Kunin

[Phil]

So, what’s next on the rental market? Or, who’s next?

 

The obvious name is the Rangers’ Chris Kreider. The best predictor of future behaviour is past behaviour. Last season, the Rangers attempted to negotiate extensions with both Kevin Hayes and Mats Zuccarello right up until the deadline, with both getting dealt in the final days and hours. I don’t sense any rush there. And, the later in the year, the easier it is from a cap perspective.

 

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/31-thoughts-whos-next-nhl-rental-market/

[BrooksBurner]

If you're going to deal him they should deal him now. Why risk injury and being left with nothing? Will the price really go up that much between now and the TDL?