Fatfrancesa Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Zucc and Kreider for.... Lucic 2019 1st 2020 2nd Yamamoto Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Change Yamamoto to pulijarvi and I’m in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Lottery protected first if they retain a bit on looch Would rather not deal Kreider. Also don’t think Zucc or Kreider are Hitchcork-type players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Zucc and Kreider for.... Lucic 2019 1st 2020 2nd Yamamoto Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 I lied. No trading Kreider. Must be extreme over payment. You’d have to guarantee me a Panarin PLUS Another top 6, via trade or FA Even if it’s Gusev, or similar. Rather send Namestnikov and remove the 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Zucc and Kreider for.... Lucic 2019 1st 2020 2nd Yamamoto Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Pass. I wouldn't take Lucic on for anything other than a fortune. That is not a fortune. A 1st and Yamamoto is maybe about what Kreider is worth in a trade. A 2nd for Zucc. So we take Lucic for what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefty9 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 have faithI am trying EDM is known for such trades lol Sent from my [device_name] using http://Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalkyea I know , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefty9 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Zucc and Kreider for.... Lucic 2019 1st 2020 2nd Yamamoto Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by TapatalkI think the oilers would love to do this trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck Head Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Pass. I wouldn't take Lucic on for anything other than a fortune. That is not a fortune. A 1st and Yamamoto is maybe about what Kreider is worth in a trade. A 2nd for Zucc. So we take Lucic for what? I don?t think we could get their 1st for Kreider Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 I don’t think we could get their 1st for Kreider Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk I can't tell if I'm suffering from Rangers bias even though I am not even "gaga" over Kreider like many Rangers fans are, or if you are incredibly underrating his value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 I don’t think we could get their 1st for Kreider Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk As if Chiarelli is conservative with assets? Lucic’s contract is also horrific. That in itself warrants assets from Edmonton for taking it on. Look at some of the deals around the league throwing away bad contracts. Most get B prospects at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 I can't tell if I'm suffering from Rangers bias even though I am not even "gaga" over Kreider like many Rangers fans are, or if you are incredibly underrating his value. The value of that 1st rounder is entirely predicated on whether or not Chiarelli thinks the Oilers are a wildcard team or not. If he does, that 1st is way less valuable to him than it is to us. If he doesn't, well.... Also - I think Lottery Protection is going to be a much less popular option given the whole Colorado/Ottawa situation. I'd honestly rather poison pill the pick (i.e. if top 5 --> Oilers get a compensatory 2nd or 3rd from us) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 The value of that 1st rounder is entirely predicated on whether or not Chiarelli thinks the Oilers are a wildcard team or not. If he does, that 1st is way less valuable to him than it is to us. If he doesn't, well.... Also - I think Lottery Protection is going to be a much less popular option given the whole Colorado/Ottawa situation. I'd honestly rather poison pill the pick (i.e. if top 5 --> Oilers get a compensatory 2nd or 3rd from us) Sure. If the Oilers unexpectedly nosedive into the top 5 of the 1st round yeah. Most likely they are a playoff team if they trade for guys like Kreider, which means it is probably more likely to be 18-22. Even if they miss the playoffs it will probably be middle of the pack. 13-16. Not digging that for Kreider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 Yeah, I'm all in favor of taking advantage of the fact it's Chiarelli and all, but I'm avoiding the poison pill that is the Lucic contract almost all cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Yeah, I'm all in favor of taking advantage of the fact it's Chiarelli and all, but I'm avoiding the poison pill that is the Lucic contract almost all cost. If they retain 2m, by year 4 “4m will be like 850k!” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Zuc is back, keep him till the deadline and let him play up his value. Play him with zib and he will put up nice numbers. Should be able to get a 1st for him Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Deal him before he gets hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Deal him before he gets hurt. Before this season he's missed like 10 games in his NHL career (10 more if you count the playoff games after the head injury) so I dont think thats a legit consern. More likely he will play up his value again than him getting hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Before this season he's missed like 10 games in his NHL career (10 more if you count the playoff games after the head injury) so I dont think thats a legit consern. More likely he will play up his value again than him getting hurt.He has a knack for getting hit with pucks. Any freak injury can happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 He has a knack for getting hit with pucks. Any freak injury can happen. That can happen to anyone. Should still wait for the deadline with the trades if that's when we can get the most and best assets back. No need to rush a Zuc trade just because he could get a freak injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 That can happen to anyone. Should still wait for the deadline with the trades if that's when we can get the most and best assets back. No need to rush a Zuc trade just because he could get a freak injury.Yeah it can happen anyone but Zucc is the one on the block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Yeah it can happen anyone but Zucc is the one on the block. Him and 95% of the team, yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 A couple more weeks now and he will easily fetch a 1st :cheers: Would honestly consider keeping him and signing him (if he wants to sign short term cheap, 3x3.5m or something) as a veteran leader if the only offers we get is 2nd rounders and B-/C level prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 A couple more weeks now and he will easily fetch a 1st :cheers: Would honestly consider keeping him and signing him (if he wants to sign short term cheap, 3x3.5m or something) as a veteran leader if the only offers we get is 2nd rounders and B-/C level prospects. I'd prefer trading him for assets at the deadline, then explore signing him as a UFA after July 1st. He's the type of player a rebuilding team needs, but they can still get some assets for him now. Although I'm guessing on a three year deal, he's getting around $5M per. Even with his slow start, he's pacing 52 points over 82 games this season. That's right in range with his last 5 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 I'd prefer trading him for assets at the deadline, then explore signing him as a UFA after July 1st. He's the type of player a rebuilding team needs, but they can still get some assets for him now. Although I'm guessing on a three year deal, he's getting around $5M per. Even with his slow start, he's pacing 52 points over 82 games this season. That's right in range with his last 5 seasons. That's pretty crazy, considering how bad he's been lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 I'd prefer trading him for assets at the deadline, then explore signing him as a UFA after July 1st. He's the type of player a rebuilding team needs, but they can still get some assets for him now. Although I'm guessing on a three year deal, he's getting around $5M per. Even with his slow start, he's pacing 52 points over 82 games this season. That's right in range with his last 5 seasons. Yeah I guess. Just thought considering his age he will regress, so he won?t get as much as now + a big ?hometown? discount because he?s almost crying and begging to stay, and we would ?sacrifice? some assets we would get in a trade. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Before this season he's missed like 10 games in his NHL career (10 more if you count the playoff games after the head injury) so I dont think thats a legit consern. More likely he will play up his value again than him getting hurt. Wasn't he just out like a month? Who ever calls. Sell. Quick. It's not about any kind of injury history. It's just Ranger luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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