Fatfrancesa Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Wouldn’t that be more on Gorton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Quinns been very vocal about keeping the best guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliveIn94 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 What if McLeod is a character guy in the locker room and oh yeah Beleskey is hurt. Sent from my Z981 using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatfrancesa Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 I don’t know seems to me that the rangers have the perfect opponent for Quinn to immediately turn the page from av. In comes the preds, the team whom the rangers refused to stand up for themselves against and quite possibly the game that summed up the rangers under av. If I’m Quinn I’m playing the tape and drilling into his team asking what kind of team are they going to be. I dress McLeod giving them a little added bravery and get them riled up. Righting the wrongs of the past and getting into s nasty game isn’t a terrible way to get the team gelling. This team isn’t going to win by talent. If being relentless and skating through not around opponents is his message. What an opportunity game 1 presents and McLeod fits right in with that mindset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 What if McLeod is a character guy in the locker room and oh yeah Beleskey is hurt. Sent from my Z981 using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Well then don’t feed me a line a shit saying you are keeping the best players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 I don’t know seems to me that the rangers have the perfect opponent for Quinn to immediately turn the page from av. In comes the preds, the team whom the rangers refused to stand up for themselves against and quite possibly the game that summed up the rangers under av. If I’m Quinn I’m playing the tape and drilling into his team asking what kind of team are they going to be. I dress McLeod giving them a little added bravery and get them riled up. Righting the wrongs of the past and getting into s nasty game isn’t a terrible way to get the team gelling. This team isn’t going to win by talent. If being relentless and skating through not around opponents is his message. What an opportunity game 1 presents and McLeod fits right in with that mindset Buchnevich had the second most fights behind McLeod. McLeod can’t win shit. Getting roughed up is the worst way to start a season. They need to play hard, every shift. McLeod going head first into the boards isn’t going to inject energy into the guys. We’ve all played on a team where “this” guy is kept around. It’s always a joke in the lockerroom and an embarrassment to the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 the chances are that McCloud is going to get a few games before they waive him just to show what he has, and maybe get picked up by another team. There's nothing wrong with having a guy like that on for the first five to eight games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliveIn94 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Buchnevich had the second most fights behind McLeod. McLeod can?t win shit. Getting roughed up is the worst way to start a season. They need to play hard, every shift. McLeod going head first into the boards isn?t going to inject energy into the guys. We?ve all played on a team where ?this? guy is kept around. It?s always a joke in the lockerroom and an embarrassment to the team.Agreed, but who do we put instead? Lias on for 7 mins a game? Fogarty? Sent from my Z981 using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatfrancesa Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Buchnevich had the second most fights behind McLeod. McLeod can’t win shit. Getting roughed up is the worst way to start a season. They need to play hard, every shift. McLeod going head first into the boards isn’t going to inject energy into the guys. We’ve all played on a team where “this” guy is kept around. It’s always a joke in the lockerroom and an embarrassment to the team. Just trying to explain the reasoning. Team toughness was directly talked about this off season by rangers brass even before hiring Quinn. They resigned McLeod this off season. Not sure if the decision on McLeod is Quinn s to make. It should be but who knows. Maybe micheletti can tell us why in fuck they kept him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4EverRangerFrank Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Guess I?ll be heading to Hartford for a couple of games this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjweimar Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 It seems with McLeod that he's 13 and just a placeholder for zuc and may circulate a little on the 4th at most Sent from my [device_name] using http://Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 the chances are that McCloud is going to get a few games before they waive him just to show what he has, and maybe get picked up by another team. There's nothing wrong with having a guy like that on for the first five to eight games. Probably the situation. Puts Anderson on notice he needs to pick it up to get to MSG, and really McLeod isn't complaining. Unless the guy is completely clueless he has to know his time as an NHL regular is short. Simply wish Anderson lit it up, but he hasn't, yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodrigueGabriel Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 the chances are that McCloud is going to get a few games before they waive him just to show what he has, and maybe get picked up by another team. There's nothing wrong with having a guy like that on for the first five to eight games. The whole equation changed when they got McQuaid, who is a more credible enforcement threat by a few orders of magnitude. And he can actually play a little hockey. So agree that these few games are likely McCleod's Rangers season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giacomin Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 It seems with McLeod that he's 13 and just a placeholder for zuc and may circulate a little on the 4th at most fellas, it is as simple as JJ's take. McLeod is the 13th. He's likely only playing if someone is hurt, sick or coach thinks someone should sit, etc. Who else did you want as a 13th? It wasn't going to be a kid. Belesky got hurt. Holland is not good enough or physical enough to make up for it. Meskanen is not ready for NHL. Fatty, McQuaid is playing against Nashville. Probably paired with Skjei. Smith will also be playing. Unlike McLeod, they'll actually be on the ice for two-thirds of the game and should do a fine job protecting/supporting the kids and adding physicality to the lineup. Edit - Rodrigue, ya beat me to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 I like a guy that can play as the 13th. I prefer guys having nights off, once in awhile, too, similar to baseball. I’d like to see the extra getting anywhere from 40-60 games a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giacomin Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 I like a guy that can play as the 13th. I prefer guys having nights off, once in awhile, too, similar to baseball. I’d like to see the extra getting anywhere from 40-60 games a season. I agree with you. 12 guys aren't going to be injury, sick or slump free. However, the roster and situation does not really call for it. We are not deep enough and we have nobody compelling as a 13th. The youngsters in the lineup should play every night and usually don't need a night off. Additionally, I think the Rangers want a forward who can 'deal', McLeod became the only one, once Belesky went down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LONG LONG LONG TIME FAN Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Go Rangers!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giacomin Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 On the flipside, we have the opposite issue on D. There is the possibility of a big rotation, with 4 lefties and 4 righties. Staal should get a chance to stay fresh all year. I doubt the coach plans to sit DeAngelo much. He's more a victim of current circumstances. The Rangers just acquired McQuaid and want his D-zone reliability, leadership, toughness and size in the lineup. Shatty is the #1 PP RHQB, his best feature, so he is in. And I think the team really likes the Staal/Pionk pairing, to start the year. Pionk needs to play consistently too. Obviously, McQuaid is a trade candidate down the road. Others could/should also be traded. So this is not going to be an all year issue. Injuries and other reasons could also impact the depth chart or change the rotation well before the deadline. Quinn is probably telling ADA this and asking him to be patient. My ideal scenario is Shatty lights it up and really increases his trade value. Even better is him getting packaged with other good players (say Hayes or whoever) to acquire a core piece or top prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Probably the situation. Puts Anderson on notice he needs to pick it up to get to MSG, and really McLeod isn't complaining. Unless the guy is completely clueless he has to know his time as an NHL regular is short. Simply wish Anderson lit it up, but he hasn't, yet. Andersson needs to step up his game because he might be the next generation of this team. Also, management thinks our goaltending is complete with a Hank who has struggled mightily in the preseason and Georgiev who has proven to be a quality goaltender but is still not played up to the potential this organization wants him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletch Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Andersson needs to step up his game because he might be the next generation of this team. Also, management thinks our goaltending is complete with a Hank who has struggled mightily in the preseason and Georgiev who has proven to be a quality goaltender but is still not played up to the potential this organization wants him Lundqvist has a no move clause and a contract for three more years. I don't know what else you want to do at goaltender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Lundqvist has a no-move clause and a contract for three more years. I don't know what else you want to do at goaltender. What I was referring to is what we need to do at goaltender after Lundqvist's contract expires and management will need to something involved in giving him an extension if we have the cap space and Hank will have to prove he deserves that extension Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatfrancesa Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 There are plenty of guys looking for jobs around the league that the rangers could have signed instead of McLeod. I’m not pointing that out as an endorsement for McLeod, more so because I wouldn’t be so sure the rangers aren’t planning on using him. The rangers brass went out of their way to speak about becoming tougher. That doesn’t make them right that playing McLeod does anything for team toughness but it does explain his signing and making the team. Sather has always been in the old boys club of “needing” an enforcer. The rangers needed toughness and to me anyway they answered that question with zero creativity or thought. They signed McLeod who has already proven unfit for the job. Regardless this was more about Quinn keeping him. I don’t think this decision was ever on Quinn as if he had a choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletch Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 What I was referring to is what we need to do at goaltender after Lundqvist's contract expires and management will need to something involved in giving him an extension if we have the cap space and Hank will have to prove he deserves that extension lundqvist is not getting an extension, this is his last contract with the rangers. no way is he a starting caliber goalie three years from now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 No wonder why they have to take a look for what they have for the future in the Goaltender position because the window is closed on Hank's career. This is the year where we will embrace the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletch Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 We've got a few years to groom a new young replacement. Lundqvist's cap hit is 2nd in the league behind Price. So we are paying him as a top five goalie and getting middle of the pack performance. Given what we saw in 2012 and 2013 management felt that they had to give him this length of contract in order to keep giving us shots at the cup. But the back end of this contract is going to be more and more painful to watch. https://www.spotrac.com/nhl/rankings/cap-hit/goaltender/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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