Blue Heaven Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 If Columbus was going to fire Torts, wouldnt have they done it by now? Im assuming they had their exit interviews already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddynyc Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 If Columbus was going to fire Torts, wouldnt have they done it by now? Im assuming they had their exit interviews already. I thought if they were going to fire him it would've been right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Rumor has Carolina looking to trade the second pick for a #1 center and a #1 pick. Sounds to steep to me, especially considering the Rangers still don't have a true #1 center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Zib + #31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Rumor has Carolina looking to trade the second pick for a #1 center and a #1 pick. Sounds to steep to me, especially considering the Rangers still don't have a true #1 center. Prior to the lottery, I mentioned sending Zib + to Montreal to move up to 2/3. They are in desperate need of a center, and he's the closest we got to a current 1C. It would probably take more than Zib + 9 + 30th to get it done, and I'm not sure thats the road we want to travel. 9 + 27 + 30? Not sure Montreal or Carolina does that - unless they try to flip the picks for that center... but that's a lot of moving parts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Zib He said a #1 center Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 He said a #1 center Oh, so Hayes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Oh, so Hayes? Hayes & the #9 for the #2 I would do in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Hayes & the #9 for the #2 I would do in a heartbeat. I would too. But then again, I'd give hayes away. No idea, why Carolina would do that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Oh, so Hayes? Definitely not a #1 Center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Definitely not a #1 Center. Well no one who fits the definition of "#1 center" is going to get traded so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Well no one who fits the definition of "#1 center" is going to get traded so... Exactly. We don’t have the piece to make that trade even if we wanted to. And I don’t imagine anyone with an actual #1 Center is going to bite. For Dahlin there might be a deal to be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Exactly. We don’t have the piece to make that trade even if we wanted to. And I don’t imagine anyone with an actual #1 Center is going to bite. For Dahlin there might be a deal to be made. What I'm saying is, anyone that does have that piece isn't going to trade it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 There are roughly 3 options for them. The Sharks decide to move one of Couture/ Pavelski, the Caps move Backstrom, the Leafs move one of Nylander/Marner. Beyond that, anyone as good or better than Zib is unlikely to be availible, and outside of the Young Leafs, Zib is the youngest and has the best contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 There are roughly 3 options for them. The Sharks decide to move one of Couture/ Pavelski, the Caps move Backstrom, the Leafs move one of Nylander/Marner. Beyond that, anyone as good or better than Zib is unlikely to be availible, and outside of the Young Leafs, Zib is the youngest and has the best contract. I don't think they should trade zib for a pick. Zib is the exact kind of player the Rangers need. I'd offer Vesey/Hayes or both and a 1st. Other than that, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Well no one who fits the definition of "#1 center" is going to get traded so... No, but if they take Zibanejad and a C with #9 (no C's are slotted to go this high, just W and D). So they could end up with young acting 1C (Zib) while their future C (selected 9th overall) develops. If they can get a 60-70pt 1C now, plus the pick - that's a big improvement for their the current team and the future. Essentially, I think the Rangers should do the same thing with 9. (No "franchise changing player at our pick". Dont need the LHD, trade for 2 later picks, grap depth RHD and depth forward) Do you fill a hole with something that doesnt fit (drafting Zadina instead of a C), or drastically improve other areas of your game, and the problem could eventually fix itself (prospect development) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 There are roughly 3 options for them. The Sharks decide to move one of Couture/ Pavelski, the Caps move Backstrom, the Leafs move one of Nylander/Marner. Beyond that, anyone as good or better than Zib is unlikely to be availible, and outside of the Young Leafs, Zib is the youngest and has the best contract. You never know when it comes to the summer. I dont think a lot of us expected the Brassard and Stepan trades. We love getting rid of centers, so who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 I don't think they should trade zib for a pick. Zib is the exact kind of player the Rangers need. I'd offer Vesey/Hayes or both and a 1st. Other than that, no. All depends. If we draft 2 and 9, I'm okay without Zib, especially if we're going after Tavares... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 All depends. If we draft 2 and 9, I'm okay without Zib, especially if we're going after Tavares... Vesey wont get you anything via trade. With RFAs, you never know what someone might give. Zibs will get you the most via trade, no question. Thing is, I really want to try Zibanejad on the wing for an extended period. Even watching him on the bigger ice surface - he looks so much more comfortable when he can skate. I'd much rather trade picks for players, though. (But we also need to unload a salary or 2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 All depends. If we draft 2 and 9, I'm okay without Zib, especially if we're going after Tavares... Going after him doesn't help anything unless they land him. I still don't see it myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Respecttheblue Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 All depends. If we draft 2 and 9, I'm okay without Zib, especially if we're going after Tavares... I see it as the first time in an eon we have a chance at having two top-tier centers at their respective positions. I would cut elsewhere before I let a player that talented go. I also don't see one of those teams going for Zibs+ in place of their top pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 All depends. If we draft 2 and 9, I'm okay without Zib, especially if we're going after Tavares... No because what if Tavares doesn't sign here? Which is a GOOD possibility. Just because we want him, doesn't mean it happens. Even if Tavares signed, we'd still have 1 good NHL ready center. That's the opposite of what we should be doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 No because what if Tavares doesn't sign here? Which is a GOOD possibility. Just because we want him, doesn't mean it happens. Even if Tavares signed, we'd still have 1 good NHL ready center. That's the opposite of what we should be doing. Names isn't an nhl ready center? In this scenario, If Tavares doesn't sign, you're basically trading Zib for Svechinkov. This isn't a bad plan B if Tavares goes elsewhere. Kovalchuk - Names - Svechinkov Kreider - Chytil - Buch Andersson - Hayes - Zucc Again, like I said, I'd prefer to keep Zib, but at his age with his contract he has a lot more value than Hayes. If Carolina would take Hayes, the #26, plus another RFA that'd be great. But, as much as the organization expects to compete for a playoff spot next year, we're rebuilding. If trading Zib and a later pick or two lands you the #2 and 9 pick this year you gotta jump on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatfrancesa Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 It’s hard to justify trading that much for a wing prospect. I would think you could trade much less for an established proven winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Names isn't an nhl ready center? In this scenario, If Tavares doesn't sign, you're basically trading Zib for Svechinkov. This isn't a bad plan B if Tavares goes elsewhere. Kovalchuk - Names - Svechinkov Kreider - Chytil - Buch Andersson - Hayes - Zucc Again, like I said, I'd prefer to keep Zib, but at his age with his contract he has a lot more value than Hayes. If Carolina would take Hayes, the #26, plus another RFA that'd be great. But, as much as the organization expects to compete for a playoff spot next year, we're rebuilding. If trading Zib and a later pick or two lands you the #2 and 9 pick this year you gotta jump on it. After Namestnikov's time with the Rangers you're ready to make him the #1 center? Did we watch different players? I would not sign up for this roster next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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