Future Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 He's a passenger on his line. His production doubles with Barzal. That's insane. He's an asset to his team, but it's clear that Barzal has a considerable effect on his ability to produce. You don't get 31 points in 14 games being a passenger, especially when he's played with Barzal and not had the same production in the past. It's not as if Barzal showed up and the production jumped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 Except that's been exactly the case this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Except that's been exactly the case this season. Barzal has been back for 30 games. Gropp's streak didn't start until, what, 16 games ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 Barzal missed the first 10 games. Played 13. Left for another 10 because of the WJC. Has played the last 18. Every time Barzal comes back, Gropp's production trends upward. In the first 10 games Gropp went 9-10. In the subsequent 13 with Barzal he went 12-13. Barzal leaves for the WJC and he goes 5-10. Barzal comes back and he goes 35-18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Ok, but production spiking does not mean he's a passenger. Especially when there's essentially no difference in production in first two stretches you mentioned there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 I disagree. We're just going to end up going back and forth with the same argument though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 I disagree. We're just going to end up going back and forth with the same argument though. Lol, no kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myusername Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 I like that he has 37 assists in 51 games for a guy that's considered a goal scorer. Considering Barzal has a whopping 8 goals, it can't all be him doing the work. He's not a great prospect but an interesting one. We'll see for sure next season when he's in the AHL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myusername Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 As for the Grachev comparison... not sure it's fair as Grachev split time with Hodgson and Duchene who combined had 75 goals and 160 points in 110 games. He was far more of a passenger than Gropp I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted March 15, 2017 Author Share Posted March 15, 2017 Three games remaining in the regular season. Seattle is going to the playoffs. Will be interesting to see how they do. Better that they go on a long run as there's no reason for Gropp to go to Hartford because they're very much out of the AHL playoffs. I don't know if it would serve him to go to Greenville, but they're doing very well in the ECHL. 80 points in 63 games for Gropp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Playoff Update: Seattle leads series 2-0 Gropp has 1g and 2a in 2 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Three games remaining in the regular season. Seattle is going to the playoffs. Will be interesting to see how they do. Better that they go on a long run as there's no reason for Gropp to go to Hartford because they're very much out of the AHL playoffs. I don't know if it would serve him to go to Greenville, but they're doing very well in the ECHL. 80 points in 63 games for Gropp. I think playing anywhere against grown men would be good for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Playoff update: Zborovsky 8 assists and +23 in 17 games will be facing Gropp 4 goals 7 assists 11 points in 10 games in the WHL Finals. Winner joins Day in the Memorial Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Seattle won the WHL Championship. Gropp had a goal and an assist in each of the last 3 games. He missed 4 games in one of the early rounds. Finished with 7 goals 12 assists for 19 points in 16 games. On to face Sean Day in the Memorial Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Looks like the passenger line of thought wins the day. I would add that he was man-sized in that league and has now lost both that advantage as well as Barzal. Essentially, barring some dramatic change, his NHL aspirations are over almost before they began. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Respecttheblue Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Good Gropp news in a tweet and an article #NYR Prospect Update: @Gropper8 with three goals in two games, @19Lettieri95 nets his 9th for @WolfPackAHL. http://nyrange.rs/2zKT4NZ links to Prospect Update: Gropp With Three Goals in Two Games by Matt Calamia @MattCalamia / NYRangers.com December 3rd, 2017 Ryan Gropp, Adam Chapie and Vince Pedrie all scored goals in Hartford's 5-4 shootout win over Rochester Friday night in the American Hockey League. Brandon Crawley had two assists while Pedrie, Vinni Lettieri and Neal Pionk had one helper each. Goaltender Alexandar Georgiev finished with 34 saves for the win. The Wolf Pack dropped a 4-3 overtime decision to the Toronto Marlies Saturday night. Gropp posted his first career multi-goal/point game to give him five thus far in his rookie campaign. Letteri netted his ninth of the year, while the newly acquired Peter Holland had an assist. Georgiev had 35 saves in the loss. ... ... there's more on other prospects — Nanne, Zborovsky, Halverson, Ronning — in the same article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Looks like the passenger line of thought wins the day. I would add that he was man-sized in that league and has now lost both that advantage as well as Barzal. Essentially, barring some dramatic change, his NHL aspirations are over almost before they began. Isn't every scorer, especially a winger, a passenger in some sense? It's too early to say this for Gropp, even if he's been trending that way. It's now 4 goals in the past 4 games and he's starting to generate a lot more shots. This is not being a passenger: https://twitter.com/JeffVeillette/status/937084303623774208 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myusername Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 We have some decent playmakers in Zucc, Buch, Miller and Hayes... so being a passenger may not be the end of the world. As long as he can put the puck in the net of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 We have some decent playmakers in Zucc, Buch, Miller and Hayes... so being a passenger may not be the end of the world. As long as he can put the puck in the net of course Yea - This team is in bad need of a guy or two who doesn't need the puck on their stick. Call it a sniper, call it a passenger...whatever. They need more shoot-first players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontonyr Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Bring back pirri !!!! (Not) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddynyc Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 What is the story with this guy would he be considered a bust at this point in his career ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 I'd certainly call him one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliveIn94 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Will he ever make the team? Sent from my [device_name] using http://Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted April 15, 2018 Author Share Posted April 15, 2018 Dude won't ever make it. He became too reliant upon Barzal. Doesn't have the skills to really make it by on his own. He's been up and down the Hartford roster and hasn't stuck anywhere. Gabe Fontaine has gotten similar bottom six minutes and situations and has suceeded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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