jsm7302 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 The purpose here is to make the equivalent deadline trades with today's team as the 93/94 cup winning team. Tony Amonte to the Chicago Blackhawks for Stephan Matteau and Brian Noonan= Brennan Othmann to the Chicago Blackhawks for Tyler Johnson and Nick Foligno Mike Gartner to the Toronto Maple Leafs for Glenn Anderson= Mika Zibanejad to the Toronto Maple Leafs for John Tavares Todd Marchant to the Edmonton Oilers for Craig MacTavish= Will Cuylle to the Edmonton Oilers for Sam Gagner I tried to do this current trade with the same teams as 93/94 which proved a bit futile because those rosters are kind of void of the equivalence however I think for what was available, this is pretty close. It doesn't have to be the same teams; let's see the explanations for other players around the league as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 3 minutes ago, jsm7302 said: The purpose here is to make the equivalent deadline trades with today's team as the 93/94 cup winning team. Tony Amonte to the Chicago Blackhawks for Stephan Matteau and Brian Noonan= Brennan Othmann to the Chicago Blackhawks for Tyler Johnson and Nick Foligno Mike Gartner to the Toronto Maple Leafs for Glenn Anderson= Mika Zibanejad to the Toronto Maple Leafs for John Tavares Todd Marchant to the Edmonton Oilers for Craig MacTavish= Will Cuylle to the Edmonton Oilers for Sam Gagner I tried to do this current trade with the same teams as 93/94 which proved a bit futile because those rosters are kind of void of the equivalence however I think for what was available, this is pretty close. It doesn't have to be the same teams; let's see the explanations for other players around the league as well. Might want to outline the parameters considering all of those trades in 93-94 were made for players with cup experience. Is that a guideline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted January 5 Author Share Posted January 5 9 minutes ago, Pete said: Might want to outline the parameters considering all of those trades in 93-94 were made for players with cup experience. Is that a guideline? I wanted to leave that up to the poster. It gets tough when trying to match player stats and cup experience because those rosters for the other teams were tough to find equivalents. I feel like it will be much easier delving outside of Edmonton, Chicago and Toronto for those specific parameters. But regardless....choose the parameters and explain why those choices. Mine were strictly on points and career experience equivalence with the teams the initial trades were made with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerDanger Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 59 minutes ago, jsm7302 said: The purpose here is to make the equivalent deadline trades with today's team as the 93/94 cup winning team. Tony Amonte to the Chicago Blackhawks for Stephan Matteau and Brian Noonan= Brennan Othmann to the Chicago Blackhawks for Tyler Johnson and Nick Foligno Mike Gartner to the Toronto Maple Leafs for Glenn Anderson= Mika Zibanejad to the Toronto Maple Leafs for John Tavares Todd Marchant to the Edmonton Oilers for Craig MacTavish= Will Cuylle to the Edmonton Oilers for Sam Gagner I tried to do this current trade with the same teams as 93/94 which proved a bit futile because those rosters are kind of void of the equivalence however I think for what was available, this is pretty close. It doesn't have to be the same teams; let's see the explanations for other players around the league as well. Those current trades make me throw up in my mouth a little........ 1 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Heaven Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 29 minutes ago, RangerDanger said: Those current trades make me throw up in my mouth a little........ They make me throw up......A LOT 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 The Zibby for Tavares trade??? Yeah, No! I definitely hacked up last night's chicken noodle soup when I read that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 The current trades make me as sick as the 93-94 ones do and Zibanejad for Tavares is probably a better trade than Gartner for Anderson was. Anderson was done when the Rangers got him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Fun idea. I'll just pretend NMCs don't exist for the Mike Gartner equivalent, because it's kind of limited to either Zibanejad or Kreider as rough trade value equivalent. Tony Amonte to the Chicago Blackhawks for Stephan Matteau and Brian Noonan = Alexis Lafreniere to Montreal for Josh Anderson and Sean Monahan Mike Gartner to the Toronto Maple Leafs for Glenn Anderson = Mika Zibanejad to Tampa for Steven Stamkos Todd Marchant to the Edmonton Oilers for Craig MacTavish = Adam Edstrom to Pittsburgh for Lars Eller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted January 5 Author Share Posted January 5 1 hour ago, RJWantsTheCup said: The current trades make me as sick as the 93-94 ones do and Zibanejad for Tavares is probably a better trade than Gartner for Anderson was. Anderson was done when the Rangers got him. This was kind of the point. Like it doesn't look pretty and may be unpopular BUT it worked. Was the chemistry on the 93/94 team as good as it is today? I was 6 so I don't remember much from then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 7 minutes ago, jsm7302 said: This was kind of the point. Like it doesn't look pretty and may be unpopular BUT it worked. Was the chemistry on the 93/94 team as good as it is today? I was 6 so I don't remember much from then. It really depends on who you talk to. I think they win without the trades in 93/94 and are better in the long run without the trades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 17 minutes ago, RJWantsTheCup said: It really depends on who you talk to. I think they win without the trades in 93/94 and are better in the long run without the trades They didn't need MacT or Anderson. I'd argue Matteau/Noonan were pretty important players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Br4d Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 18 minutes ago, RJWantsTheCup said: It really depends on who you talk to. I think they win without the trades in 93/94 and are better in the long run without the trades The Rangers were making those trades to get over the top. If you're not a certain age you never experienced the "1940" chants. That was ending that year and they went all in to do it. Also, do a search on NHL and Corruption and you'll get an eyeful of how ridiculously bad the scams were for the original 6 through 1965 or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 I almost miss the 1940 chants, not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 27 minutes ago, Pete said: They didn't need MacT or Anderson. I'd argue Matteau/Noonan were pretty important players. Matteau scored 1 of the most important goals in Rangers history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 No way you win the cup by trading core pieces like zib. sometimes doing less is actually doing more. 94 was such an enigmatic cup win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 22 minutes ago, RJWantsTheCup said: I almost miss the 1940 chants, not. Don’t worry, 1994 will be here soon enough 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted January 5 Author Share Posted January 5 18 minutes ago, Vodka Drunkenski said: Don’t worry, 1994 will be here soon enough 30 years...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 I just wanna see one more in my lifetime. I'm not greedy....Just fucking ONE! ....after that, I'll be greedy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 20 minutes ago, Ozzy said: I just wanna see one more in my lifetime. I'm not greedy....Just fucking ONE! ....after that, I'll be greedy! Some of us haven’t seen any Ozzy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 2 hours ago, RJWantsTheCup said: It really depends on who you talk to. I think they win without the trades in 93/94 and are better in the long run without the trades They didn’t need to make ALL those trades. I think Matteau and Noonan were essential. MacTavish is debatable. Anderson was a waste of Mike Gartner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 36 minutes ago, RangersIn7 said: They didn’t need to make ALL those trades. I think Matteau and Noonan were essential. MacTavish is debatable. Anderson was a waste of Mike Gartner. It’s impossible to know what would’ve happened if they didn’t make the trades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Heaven Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 40 minutes ago, RangersIn7 said: They didn’t need to make ALL those trades. I think Matteau and Noonan were essential. MacTavish is debatable. Anderson was a waste of Mike Gartner. Keenan hated Gartner, that was the only reason Gartner was traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 6 minutes ago, RJWantsTheCup said: It’s impossible to know what would’ve happened if they didn’t make the trades. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 2 minutes ago, Blue Heaven said: Keenan hated Gartner, that was the only reason Gartner was traded. Oh 100% But I don’t think Mess was a fan of his either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Heaven Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 11 minutes ago, RangersIn7 said: Oh 100% But I don’t think Mess was a fan of his either. F@#K man, still pisses me off that Gartner didnt get to raise the Cup as a NYR. He was having such a good year, and had the rug pulled out from under him. I don't recall any rumors of him on the trade market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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