Sod16 Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 At the end of a long shift, he seems more gassed than the other four players. When the other team has a rush, he often looks too tired to get back. Do the rest of you notice this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, Sod16 said: At the end of a long shift, he seems more gassed than the other four players. When the other team has a rush, he often looks too tired to get back. Do the rest of you notice this? He was caught dipping into Yukon's stash! Those Boston Creams catch up to you fast!! Nah, I just think he's trying to do too much, Sod. He's still forcing shit, and trying too hard to set guys up. He's best when he keeps it simple; Beat a guy, make a good pass and most of all, shoot the damn thing...like against Tampa...that wrist shot was a fucking laser! That's what I wanna see from him in the playoffs. He'll be fine once we get there in my book. I think the guy's still arguably one of the best forwards in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Br4d Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 The Rangers looked gassed last night. The breakout passes were a split-second late and the drop passes weren't picked up and the overall energy level seemed low. Panarin has been coasting for two seasons now. He just isn't that really quick guy he was before the pandemic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 Panarin does tend to stay out a little longer than his line mates on shifts. It was mentioned awhile ago during a game that the Rangers feel he can take a little longer shifts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 Back to back nights, including travel. End of a long season in a basically meaningless game. I could see how some players were disengaged a bit. I could see it going forward til the playoffs start too. With that said, I fear this team getting steamrolled by the devils if they don’t step it up a notch or two come playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 I just think they were gassed. Up until last night, Panarin was actually throwing some hits and getting more involved in the plays, even playing with a bit of a edge. I don't think really conditioning is an issue with this team. You could say that for someone like Lafreniere, but he's gotten better there. I just chalk up last night to being tired and not really caring that much about the game. They are basically in coast mode until the playoffs start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Br4d said: The Rangers looked gassed last night. The breakout passes were a split-second late and the drop passes weren't picked up and the overall energy level seemed low. Panarin has been coasting for two seasons now. He just isn't that really quick guy he was before the pandemic. Yea he's coasting putting up 90 point seasons. That's laughable dude. Where do you get this? It was a back-to-back game where they were playing with 11 forwards. Let's use a little common sense here. Edited April 7, 2023 by Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 Yes, he's in shape. It was a back to back. In shape doesn't equal immune to exhaustion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted April 7, 2023 Author Share Posted April 7, 2023 Just a note, I started to post this thread before last night's game but my computer crashed, so the observation had nothing to do with last night or back-to-back games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Br4d Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Pete said: Yea he's coasting putting up 90 point seasons. That's laughable dude. Where do you get this? It was a back-to-back game where they were playing with 11 forwards. Let's use a little common sense here. He coasts most of the time. We know he's doing that because when he's on he's a major force to be dealt with and when he's not he disappears. It's similar to the Kreider problem but Kreider is a big dude and uses his body now and then also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 41 minutes ago, Br4d said: He coasts most of the time. We know he's doing that because when he's on he's a major force to be dealt with and when he's not he disappears. It's similar to the Kreider problem but Kreider is a big dude and uses his body now and then also. There's a difference between coasting and picking your spots. I don't even know why you're bringing up Krieder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 His “effort” tracking back on the ot goal last night was utterly pitiful to be fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Br4d Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 51 minutes ago, Pete said: There's a difference between coasting and picking your spots. I don't even know why you're bringing up Krieder. With both of them the overall output does not match the potential. For Panarin it's because he spends an enormous amount of time trying to find the best pass. He should be a 40+ goal guy in addition to all the assists. We see what happens when he prioritizes shooting because he gets goals in clusters. Then he goes back to being the always looking for the pass guy. For Kreider it's lack of a consistent motor. He is an all-around player at times and then he turns into a pumpkin at midnight and the effort is gone for games at a time. Picking your spots is just another way of saying coasting at times and turning it on at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, Br4d said: Picking your spots is just another way of saying coasting at times and turning it on at times. No it's not. Coasting refers to lack of effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Br4d Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 Just now, Pete said: No it's not. Coasting refers to lack of effort. Coasting refers to doing what is expected not going 100% on every shift. Panarin coasts most of the time. Kreider coasts a significant part of the time. Zibanejad never coasts. He's always going 100%. There's no excuse as a professional player not to be giving 100% of your ability on every shift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, Br4d said: Coasting refers to doing what is expected not going 100% on every shift. Panarin coasts most of the time. Kreider coasts a significant part of the time. Zibanejad never coasts. He's always going 100%. There's no excuse as a professional player not to be giving 100% of your ability on every shift. Nah. You got it all wrong. But not worth the argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Gravesy said: His “effort” tracking back on the ot goal last night was utterly pitiful to be fair He got back fine, Gravy!! They both simply went to the same guy!! ...same as it ever was!!! LOL it looked like he motioned to Trocheck, but they both still let that pass get across. Fucking Halak must've been like, "Hey douches!!! ...Someone wanna cut the pass??!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valriera Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Ozzy said: He got back fine, Gravy!! They both simply went to the same guy!! ...same as it ever was!!! LOL it looked like he motioned to Trocheck, but they both still let that pass get across. Fucking Halak must've been like, "Hey douches!!! ...Someone wanna cut the pass??!" lol exactly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 9 hours ago, Pete said: Yea he's coasting putting up 90 point seasons. That's laughable dude. Where do you get this? Yea 90+ points......IN GARBAGE TIME.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 Panarin performance when the score is within 1 goal: All Strengths: 66 pts, 12th overall, 2nd LW 5v5 37 pts, 11th overall, 2nd LW Garbage time has nothing to do with anything here. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted April 11, 2023 Author Share Posted April 11, 2023 Rangers called for too many men 1:18 into OT because Panarin dogging it and couldn't get to the bench. I know it's 3X3, but it's not that long of a shift. Players are often on in OT longer than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Br4d Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 (edited) He wasn't dogging it. He looked at the bench as he skated past it and nobody was up and ready to get on the ice. Then Kreider got up after he passed by and over the boards before he knew it. Was just very bad communication. Rangers need to tighten that up before the playoffs. They gave up a goal earlier when 3 of the players had been on the ice for 1:45+. Edited April 11, 2023 by Br4d 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slobberknocker Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 On 4/7/2023 at 8:24 AM, Pete said: Yea he's coasting putting up 90 point seasons. That's laughable dude. Where do you get this? It was a back-to-back game where they were playing with 11 forwards. Let's use a little common sense here. no doubt. this thread is sorta silly. Artemi Panarin Stats | ESPN almost like the guys peaking points wise. he's not CMD. But he's a damn good hockey player. he went after Wilson too. that means something in that locker room Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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