Lord Al Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Seems the market dried up on him. Good spot to land, though. Sens are gonna be good this year. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 When other players are getting PTOs, he was lucky to get a deal, IMO. Guy is always hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 All the signed players I listed on my pto list and told “they’re not pto guys” all got shit contracts that won’t cost the teams when sent down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valriera Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Good for him he earned a nice check for a year. If he keeps it up he should be able to hit it for a little more term at that price too, solid guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Attaboy Chris! Signed Reaves for another year just so we can watch is death agonies and hence had no space for the much better Motte at a very good price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Sod16 said: Attaboy Chris! Signed Reaves for another year just so we can watch is death agonies and hence had no space for the much better Motte at a very good price. Reaves fills a tougher role. They can always get a/the Motte at the deadline for a late pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Valriera said: Good for him he earned a nice check for a year. If he keeps it up he should be able to hit it for a little more term at that price too, solid guy (he took a pay cut of 100k to play in Ottawa after seeking $2m x 4) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 23 minutes ago, josh said: Reaves fills a tougher role. They can always get a/the Motte at the deadline for a late pick. Some people just need to let go. The man is simply too slow to play in the NHL anymore. That's why his last two teams have scratched him in elimination games in the playoffs. There was no need to add a year to his contract a year in advance. He wasn't going to go anywhere if you still wanted him at the end of his contract. There's a lesson in the Motte in Rodrigues contracts. Save a couple of million in cap in the July UFA period and you can get a bargain in September that you never would have gotten in July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 4 hours ago, Sod16 said: Attaboy Chris! Signed Reaves for another year just so we can watch is death agonies and hence had no space for the much better Motte at a very good price. yea, they should’ve signed Motte who spent more time injured than on the ice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 34 minutes ago, Vodka Drunkenski said: yea, they should’ve signed Motte who spent more time injured than on the ice Or pay Reaves who spent more time chasing the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 15 minutes ago, CCCP said: Or pay Reaves who spent more time chasing the game Reaves was perfectly fine for his role which was needed. Motte or a comparable is easily obtained at the deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 Nobody is going to believe me, but I'd rather they paid Motte 1.3 over Gauthier at 800k. Then obviously send Hunt to the AHL or into a pool of Monkey Pox contaminated liquid or something or other. Motte was a buzz saw. He had a role here that they are just going to try to find later on down the road. But yeah, Ottawa is putting together a pretty good team on paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 4 hours ago, Sod16 said: Some people just need to let go. The man is simply too slow to play in the NHL anymore. That's why his last two teams have scratched him in elimination games in the playoffs. There was no need to add a year to his contract a year in advance. He wasn't going to go anywhere if you still wanted him at the end of his contract. There's a lesson in the Motte in Rodrigues contracts. Save a couple of million in cap in the July UFA period and you can get a bargain in September that you never would have gotten in July. i think you are completely missing the point of Reaves, but feel free to look back on any of the games prior to last season. Reaves, also, isn’t a cap issue. The cap issues comes from every player getting 25% more than they should have gotten. The last hometown discount was Zuccarello, which is why he’s the only guy that made it through a contract without getting bought out. Which, also takes up cap space for multiple seasons. and seriously, some people need to let it go when it comes to Motte. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 18 minutes ago, The Dude said: Nobody is going to believe me, but I'd rather they paid Motte 1.3 over Gauthier at 800k. Then obviously send Hunt to the AHL or into a pool of Monkey Pox contaminated liquid or something or other. Motte was a buzz saw. He had a role here that they are just going to try to find later on down the road. But yeah, Ottawa is putting together a pretty good team on paper. And last time we had this discussion, I pointed out that everything you praised about Motte was exceeded by Carpenter. If Motte wanted to be here, he would have signed a contract with the Rangers. He didn’t. Let it go, guys. His worthless 9 games won’t be missed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 Motte took a pay cut, meaning EVERY GM thinks less of him than people on here. ”some people just need to let it go” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 56 minutes ago, josh said: And last time we had this discussion, I pointed out that everything you praised about Motte was exceeded by Carpenter. If Motte wanted to be here, he would have signed a contract with the Rangers. He didn’t. Let it go, guys. His worthless 9 games won’t be missed. No. No we didn't. You pointed out that Carpenter played a bunch on the PK. A shitty PK. To which it was proven Motte did as well (shitty PK) until he came to the Rangers. Kinda just saying I'd rather have Motte. No big catastrophe. Well, not until Carpenter stinks up the joint and the Rangers start looking for a 4th line checker that isn't dogshit.... again. But we all have preferences. Not sure why the preference of this player bothers you. There's not some huge uproar about the loss of Motte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 1 hour ago, josh said: Motte took a pay cut, meaning EVERY GM thinks less of him than people on here. ”some people just need to let it go” What was I suggesting his worth was? I think 1- 1.4. That's pretty much what anyone here was considering paying him if they were to bring him back. Kinda in line with GMs really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 12 minutes ago, The Dude said: No. No we didn't. You pointed out that Carpenter played a bunch on the PK. A shitty PK. To which it was proven Motte did as well (shitty PK) until he came to the Rangers. Kinda just saying I'd rather have Motte. No big catastrophe. Well, not until Carpenter stinks up the joint and the Rangers start looking for a 4th line checker that isn't dogshit.... again. But we all have preferences. Not sure why the preference of this player bothers you. There's not some huge uproar about the loss of Motte. Stop. He didn’t do anything. and still can’t win faceoffs, player center, or sign for what the rangers offered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 9 minutes ago, The Dude said: What was I suggesting his worth was? I think 1- 1.4. That's pretty much what anyone here was considering paying him if they were to bring him back. Kinda in line with GMs really. 1.6 x multi years is what you used. and again, no, no GM went for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 10 hours ago, josh said: 1.6 x multi years is what you used. and again, no, no GM went for that. I agree with all your points around if we really need Motte... We didn't. But that's only because we can give his slot to players like Cullye and Othmann and break them into the NHL. They can come in as fourth liners and PK guys. But at this point of the year, with a flat cap, it's a game of musical chairs and there's a lot of players left without a seat and it doesn't make them bad players. Motte is a good player but sometimes it just doesn't work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 Cuylle sounds like a good Motte replacement to bring in this year. I dont want to stifle Othmann with 4th line duties. The kid was an offensive dynamo and not that it will definitely translate but we should at least give it the opportunity to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 32 minutes ago, jsm7302 said: Cuylle sounds like a good Motte replacement to bring in this year. I dont want to stifle Othmann with 4th line duties. The kid was an offensive dynamo and not that it will definitely translate but we should at least give it the opportunity to. His offensive development has been a bonus. He has always been a physical and defensively sound player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 This is a win-win situation in my book; Motte gets to stay in the show on what looks to be a pretty competitive Ottawa team, and we clear the way for our young guns like Culleye and The Big "O". I didn't see that at the end of the season, but now that the smoke is clearing, it looks like having Motte out of the picture makes a lot more sense. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 It would be cool to see feisty Lafreniere with Othmann. They'd be hitting bodies and one-timers. I'm not sure I'm cool with Cuylle as a 4th liner, but its bound to happen. We'd have to remember that he's just a kid, learning at this level - which we need long-term. Again, no one needs to play every game, either. A game off should be normal, especially for kids. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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