BrooksBurner Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 What does "a GG guy" actually mean? A guy who has played for him before? A guy who plays a certain way? A guy who GG just happens to like for some unknown reason? Like AV with Tanner Glass? Or is this just made up by fans who don't like a player or signing, don't think said player is good enough for the team, so they cope by using this "just a GG guy" terminology? Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 All of the above. Every coach has their guys. Every fan base has some cross section of its fans who hate this, because they pessimistically believe that these players become coach's pets or, more specifically, get ice time based on having a positive relationship with the coach, rather than on merit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 More broadly, it's hard to say it applies to specific players, because I would argue that both Reilly Smith and Ryan Reaves are both "GG guys" and couldn't have a more disparate skill set between them if they tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphinity 2.0 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 I think Ryan Carpenter is a perfect example. He's nothing special, a dime a dozen. They could have signed practically anyone to fill the "compete for 4C, maybe play wing" role. But he played with GG in Vegas, so the familiarity presumably brought him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Yup. Also because they knew they could get him for dirt cheap (he literally signed for league minimum), but he applies for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 GG loves the low maintenance guys that do the little things - so he doesn’t have to coach it. Your typical hard working third liner (Hunt) and your big stay at home defenseman. Hustle but simple. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted July 18, 2022 Author Share Posted July 18, 2022 Is Trocheck a GG guy? Or is it just the lower level grunt workers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, rmc51 said: Is Trocheck a GG guy? Or is it just the lower level grunt workers? Yes, probably. He specifically mentioned him as a factor in signing here. He also put up his best production in the NHL playing for him. I don't think it's specific "levels" of players as much as it is "types," like Josh noted above. Low maintenance guys who do the stuff you would otherwise have to coach guys into doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 He's been here a year. Are we calling Kreider, Zib, Lindgren, Trouba, and Goodrow GG guys now? Who gets the label and who doesn't? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, Long live the King said: He's been here a year. Are we calling Kreider, Zib, Lindgren, Trouba, and Goodrow GG guys now? Who gets the label and who doesn't? If they left to follow him somewhere, yes, probably. For me, that's what having "your guys" means. They follow you to wherever you go. Like Fedotenko did for Tortorella, or Taylor Pyatt did for AV, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Br4d Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 The interesting question is who is *not* a GG guy at this point? I'd put Kakko in that category because despite being a hard worker the production just isn't there and the pressure to give him minutes despite that fact is intense. The healthy scratch in game 6 was almost mind-blowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdog99 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 (edited) GG seems to be a pretty hands off coach. So it seems like these are just guys who have played well for him in the past - rather than fitting into some very specific mold/style/philosophy. Edited July 18, 2022 by Jdog99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Every coach has “his guys.” Yet we only really discuss it when we are talking about good quality, successful coaches. As long as this attitude doesn’t permeate itself towards bad roster construction it’s fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Yes, Trocheck is a GG guy. So was Reaves. So is Carpenter. Does it lead to issues? Well I'd say he overplayed Reaves to the point he couldn't even skate towards the end of the season. Which is bad for a guy who can't skate as it is. Trochek is fine. Carpenter sucks. But he's league minimum so there's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Brian Boyle would have been the ultimate GG guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Br4d said: The interesting question is who is *not* a GG guy at this point? I'd put Kakko in that category because despite being a hard worker the production just isn't there and the pressure to give him minutes despite that fact is intense. The healthy scratch in game 6 was almost mind-blowing. Anyone he needs to coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 19 hours ago, josh said: Anyone he needs to coach. so you're saying he's a shitty coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 Won’t know until I see him try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 he did scratch Kakko at the end. that's coaching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 No it’s not. That’s scratching. if he was coaching, he wouldn’t have been scratched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, josh said: No it’s not. That’s scratching. if he was coaching, he wouldn’t have been scratched. ahhh...i see where you going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted July 19, 2022 Author Share Posted July 19, 2022 So Gallant isn’t actually coaching the team, after he makes it to the ECF with them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 I’m specifically addressing the question you proposed about GG guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 If I'm "scratching", there's only 2 reasons...Either my balls are itchy, or someone mentioned the name "DeGuisseppe"!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 1 hour ago, rmc51 said: So Gallant isn’t actually coaching the team, after he makes it to the ECF with them? Of course he is. The way I understand what @josh is saying is there are guys who you can effectively trust to do what you want them to do who require no maintenance. You never need to address things with them, or whistle stoppages in practice, or anything, because they just get it. "His guys." Then there's others, who require those things, and need reminders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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