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https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/jeremy-roenick-claims-nbc-firing-was-anti-straight-discrimination-1234709882/

 

Jeremy Roenick Claims NBC Firing Was Anti-Straight Discrimination

 

Hockey star Jeremy Roenick sued NBC Sports for wrongful termination on Friday, claiming the network discriminated against him as a straight man after he made off-color remarks on a Barstool Sports podcast.

 

Roenick also alleges that the network retaliated against him because he was an outspoken supporter of President Trump in 2016.

 

Roenick was let go after joking on the “Spittin’ Chiclets” podcast about having a threesome with his wife and Kathryn Tappen, a coworker, in a discussion about a vacation in Portugal.

 

“I’m swimming with my wife and Kathryn, and they’ve got their bikinis on, and they look f—in’ smokin’,” he said on the podcast in December. “Ass and boobs everywhere. It’s great.”

 

Really tough world out there for straight white millionaire men. finally someone standing up for the little guy

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What he should claim is this a first time incident, wasn't told "no" for presumed acceptable compliments, that even if deemed otherwise, does not meet the threshold for gross misconduct.

 

But I don't see him getting money or his job back.

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He got fired for saying that!? Man, you really can't say anything anymore. I think I've developed more into a mute as I've gotten older.

 

Dude. That violates about every corporate code of conduct ever written.

 

You can't go on the radio and talk about wanting to fuck your co-workers. That's commonsense 101.

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He got fired for saying that!? Man, you really can't say anything anymore. I think I've developed more into a mute as I've gotten older.

 

No, you could never say that. It's just that for decades, powerful men were able to because there were no consequences for doing so. This isn't censorship, it's accountability.

 

In what world is going on national radio and "joking" about wanting to fuck your married co-worker acceptable behavior?

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Thank you for supporting cancel culture, posters.

 

He specifically cited statements by openly gay Johnny Wier that did not get Johnny fired. I haven't seen those statements, but it would not surprise me if NBC gives a longer leash to a gay commentator. That, however, would be illegal.

 

NBC warned JR not to speak at the Republican convention. If some employee, especially Johnny Wier, were to want to speak at the Democratic convention, the network would cheer them on.

 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/former-nhl-player-and-analyst-files-lawsuit-accusing-nbc-of-heterosexual-discrimination

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What he should claim is this a first time incident, wasn't told "no" for presumed acceptable compliments, that even if deemed otherwise, does not meet the threshold for gross misconduct.

 

But I don't see him getting money or his job back.

 

Yeah, this. Spot on.

 

I think he's well within his rights to suggest that termination is excessive for the action. Claiming it's "anti-straight" and "anti-Trump" is farcical and just him trying to rally loud people behind him. What, does he think that if he said "man, let me tell you, me and Patrick Sharp hit up Ibiza and that dude looks slammin' in a Speedo. And that dong, bro. What a dong." he wouldn't have faced similar backlash?

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Thank you for supporting cancel culture, posters.

 

He specifically cited statements by openly gay Johnny Wier that did not get Johnny fired. I haven't seen those statements, but it would not surprise me if NBC gives a longer leash to a gay commentator. That, however, would be illegal.

 

NBC warned JR not to speak at the Republican convention. If some employee, especially Johnny Wier, were to want to speak at the Democratic convention, the network would cheer them on.

 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/former-nhl-player-and-analyst-files-lawsuit-accusing-nbc-of-heterosexual-discrimination

 

I'd venture a guess that since NBC has numerous news arms, most of their higher profile employees likely have contractual clauses preventing them from speaking at major political events. I'd imagine that this is pretty common among news outlets; you're highly unlikely to see Paul Krugman or Rachel Maddow speaking at the DNC, for example.

 

Also, can we not do the whole cancel culture thing? It's not a useful lens for understanding this, nor like...99% of the things its blamed for. This is a pretty black-and-white thing; JR said things about a co-worker that are in clear violation of NBC's policies. You can probably argue that the punishment was too severe, but it's not like JR's got much to stand on to say he didn't violate the company policy.

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Yea, not the best use case of the fauxtrage around cancel culture.

 

9/10 average corporate employed Americans would have been fired.

 

If NBC didn't fire him for something a mailroom worker would be fired for, it would be yet another case of the affluenza.

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There's nothing new here. For at least the last 15+ years or so there's been zero tolerance for this kind of thing in the corp world. Literally have seen dozens of guys walked out never to be seen again in the office. Most times they're terminated on the spot. IT gets a call saying this guy will be called into a conf room at 10:00, at that time send someone into his office collect his computer, phone etc. and disable his accounts. Security guy will show up with a box so the guy can pack his personal shit up and then he's escorted out. Then the company will fight tooth and nail to deny them unemployment. A few times the accused conveniently goes "on vacation" while HR sorts out the details, have even seen a guy work "from home" before it was a thing for a month before the decision was made to let him go. Point being you just can not go there in any reputable company. I have never seen any of the guys that we let go win a penny in any kind of litigation again the Co. There's attitude was always what are they going to do fire me? Well yeah, that's exactly what they're going to do.
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I don't know if you can take joking around or having fun on a podcast or whatever as gospel. I'm not saying I, myself, would go out of my way to say it, but it's just some sports talk show. It's just that now everything is taken to the nth degree. You get a bunch of guys around talking about women, guess what, there's probably going to be some things said. I know it's not radio, but still, it's kind of expected for men to talk that way. It's been like that for generations. But, it's 2020 and it's trendy to 'cancel'.
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I'd venture a guess that since NBC has numerous news arms, most of their higher profile employees likely have contractual clauses preventing them from speaking at major political events. I'd imagine that this is pretty common among news outlets; you're highly unlikely to see Paul Krugman or Rachel Maddow speaking at the DNC, for example.

 

Also, can we not do the whole cancel culture thing? It's not a useful lens for understanding this, nor like...99% of the things its blamed for. This is a pretty black-and-white thing; JR said things about a co-worker that are in clear violation of NBC's policies. You can probably argue that the punishment was too severe, but it's not like JR's got much to stand on to say he didn't violate the company policy.

 

Yeah, I mean, he's always walked a fine line. I'm honestly still surprised he's on TV at this point, even before all of this. It's not like he can apologize and people would be alright with it. He certainly hasn't done himself any favors in the past, I will say that.

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I don't know if you can take joking around or having fun on a podcast or whatever as gospel. I'm not saying I, myself, would go out of my way to say it, but it's just some sports talk show. It's just that now everything is taken to the nth degree. You get a bunch of guys around talking about women, guess what, there's probably going to be some things said. I know it's not radio, but still, it's kind of expected for men to talk that way. It's been like that for generations. But, it's 2020 and it's trendy to 'cancel'.

 

He's there in a professional capacity. That's the problem for NBC - he's a hockey broadcaster for a major network appearing on a hockey podcast owned by one of the largest sports media outlets to talk about hockey. He's not just a former player here. He represented the company in a professional environment and talked about having a threesome with his wife and his smokin' hot coworker. Imagine you said that to a client or in a meeting - on a recording, no less?

 

It's not locker room talk when it's broadcast to anyone who wants to hear it while you're representing your company in a professional capacity.

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I don't know if you can take joking around or having fun on a podcast or whatever as gospel. I'm not saying I, myself, would go out of my way to say it, but it's just some sports talk show. It's just that now everything is taken to the nth degree. You get a bunch of guys around talking about women, guess what, there's probably going to be some things said. I know it's not radio, but still, it's kind of expected for men to talk that way. It's been like that for generations. But, it's 2020 and it's trendy to 'cancel'.
What's said in a group of 4 guys is in no way equal to saying it on a podcast.

 

Here's another hint... Most women don't like being talked about, or to, that way... By a guy old enough to be her father.

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Have you heard how women talk about guys, married or otherwise sometimes? You should hear some of the stuff they come up with. It should go both ways. Personally, I absolutely wouldn't speak to a woman that way anyway, but I mean, they aren't totally innocent either from speaking provocatively in the work place or anywhere. If a bunch of married women/celebrities had a sports show or whatever and they were speaking the way Roenick did about guys, is that alright? Because I guarantee the backlash would not be the same.
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He's there in a professional capacity. That's the problem for NBC - he's a hockey broadcaster for a major network appearing on a hockey podcast owned by one of the largest sports media outlets to talk about hockey. He's not just a former player here. He represented the company in a professional environment and talked about having a threesome with his wife and his smokin' hot coworker. Imagine you said that to a client or in a meeting - on a recording, no less?

 

It's not locker room talk when it's broadcast to anyone who wants to hear it while you're representing your company in a professional capacity.

 

He certainly hasn't done himself any favors in the past. I'm honestly surprised he's been kept around as long as he has in the TV world. It's not like NBC didn't know what they were getting into when they chose to have him as a representative.

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Have you heard how women talk about guys, married or otherwise sometimes? You should hear some of the stuff they come up with. It should go both ways. Personally, I absolutely wouldn't speak to a woman that way anyway, but I mean, they aren't totally innocent either from speaking provocatively in the work place or anywhere. If a bunch of married women/celebrities had a sports show or whatever and they were speaking the way Roenick did about guys, is that alright? Because I guarantee the backlash would not be the same.

 

You keep conflating how people talk and how spokesmen/women talk on a national platform while representing a company. They're not the same thing.

 

You can say whatever the hell you want. If your company sends you on television or on the radio on their behalf and you say shit that violates the company's policies, guess what's gonna happen?

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You keep conflating how people talk and how spokesmen/women talk on a national platform while representing a company. They're not the same thing.

 

You can say whatever the hell you want. If your company sends you on television or on the radio on their behalf and you say shit that violates the company's policies, guess what's gonna happen?

 

This is why I'm surprised that JR has still managed to be on TV all these years. I know this case was pretty extreme, even compared to what he's said in the past. If he doesn't get banished this time, I don't know what it will take. Like I said, I'm surprised NBC, or any nationally televised network has kept him around. He's certainly known to have loose lips.

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