Fatfrancesa Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 You want threads, here you go. The signing of Artemi Panarin for $11plus million for 7 years was applauded by most. I obviously hated it. The issue is not the talent of the player, though I do value wings as far less valuable than A center or defenseman. He?s even been off to pretty good start. Problem is this team is loaded with holes and seemingly miles away from contending. So the question then and now is the same. Was it smart to tie up so much cap space on a wing At this stage of a rebuild. How old will panarin be when this team is ready to benefit from his services and contend. I?m posting this for conversation and for a timeline of his tenure here and how opinions evolve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 This can't really be answered yet. It's like a developing photograph. We need more clarity on the outcome before the investment cost in the process can be properly weighed. At face value, I'd say yes, but that's all relative to the ultimate goal, which is far too early to make a snap judgement on yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 If it takes 2-3 seasons for them to be legit contenders, I’m ok with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyb Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 If it takes 2-3 seasons for them to be legit contenders, I’m ok with that. And considering where contracts are going, 11m for our winger might not be one of the highest in the league by that time. So far, so good. Dude's a stud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Now he is. In 5 years? We’ll see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Now he is. In 5 years? We’ll see In 5 years if he’s the 3rd-4th best player on the roster, we’re fuckin gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 No, but yes. Yes to player. I’ll always whine about contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4EverRangerFrank Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 At some point in every team's development you have to add a stud. Who's to say when or if this guy would be available in 2-3 when we're likely to make best use of his talents. Oh-man he has talents! Not since Jagr days have I been this enamored with a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 He better have a strong back and oversized shoulders to carry this bunch. They're banking on so many kids growing into top players and the odds of not having some guys who don't is pretty high. I just don't see some of these guys as being those kind of players. Will be interesting to see who steps up and who doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBrowningPI Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 I think he's still figuring out what this teams identity is. He's obviously a gifted player but really hasn't IMO shown his full skillset. Once he's at the comfort level he was with CHI and then CLB he will show his elite talent. I believe the best is yet to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 It’s been 8 fuckin games for Christ’s sake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 You can perhaps question the timing in terms of where the team is. But elite talent doesn't become available very often. I believe it was the right decision to pull the trigger at the time they did. There's always risk involved when making a deal like that, and hindsight will tell us if it was worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 It’s been 8 fuckin games for Christ’s sake I'm shocked that the OP waited this long... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistercosmic Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 I really enjoy watching him on the ice, every shift. Unfortunately, I've to say the opposite about most of the others, which together earn much more than Panarin. That's why he's worth it. Sent from my NEM-L51 using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 No, but yes. Yes to player. I’ll always whine about contracts. It’s been 8 fuckin games for Christ’s sake I'm riding with these...except I'm not into "whine"...I like the good stuff! :rofl: It's early, Franny. We have to build around a scorer/legit scoring threat. We tried building around a goalie for the last 7 years and it's not gonna work in my eyes, my man. When Hank comes off the books after next season, we'll have more room to keep the players we'll need going forward and possibly even bring in some pieces that get us over the top. I like watching Panarin out there right now, and I wasn't really into bringing him in at first but I've since changed my mind. I like him...and he plays with some balls! ...which you already know I like in a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Heaven Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Rangers played 7 games and already questioning if Panarin is worth it? :palm: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Yes it's too early, etc. etc. But I would also say that playing on a line without Zib is a much better measurement of where he's at. At that price tag, he should be able to carry a line. He's a lot more valuable if he makes Buch and Strome/Howden/Chytil whoever more productive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Watch him play hockey. Understand what it is that he does out there. If you don’t think he’s playing chess while everyone is playing checkers, just stop watching hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Too many people have these illusions you can suck for 4 years, draft Crosby, Kane, Toews, and Malkin, add fillers and win cups. Here are my questions: If you don’t want Panarin, who do you want? What’s the plan without acquiring top end talent? I need more than “I don’t like the signing”. Give me a solution for this so called problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Too many people have these illusions you can suck for 4 years, draft Crosby, Kane, Toews, and Malkin, add fillers and win cups. Here are my questions: If you don?t want Panarin, who do you want? What?s the plan without acquiring top end talent? I need more than ?I don?t like the signing?. Give me a solution for this so called problem.Dzingle. Or some other stop gap and hope another stud makes it to UFA at 27 and wants to play here. That's not what I would do, but that's what was suggested. One would have thought Kakko, Kravtsov, Cheats and Panarin would have been enough to add to Zib and be a pretty good offensive team. Unfortunately, the effort level isn't there across the board and some guys wound up in the A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Hey, you'd never guess whose outscoring Panarin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Too many people have these illusions you can suck for 4 years, draft Crosby, Kane, Toews, and Malkin, add fillers and win cups. Here are my questions: If you don’t want Panarin, who do you want? What’s the plan without acquiring top end talent? I need more than “I don’t like the signing”. Give me a solution for this so called problem. Byfield and someone from the 2021 first round. All Rangers first round picks have a combined 8 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Dzingle. Or some other stop gap and hope another stud makes it to UFA at 27 and wants to play here. That's not what I would do, but that's what was suggested. One would have thought Kakko, Kravtsov, Cheats and Panarin would have been enough to add to Zib and be a pretty good offensive team. Unfortunately, the effort level isn't there across the board and some guys wound up in the A. I?m gonna guess that they saw that coming. Just a hunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Falco Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 It?s been 8 fuckin games for Christ?s sake Pretty much this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 I’m gonna guess that they saw that coming. Just a hunch. Yeah, I gotta think it wasn't a shock, thus they had some bottom three scrubs ready to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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