CBrowningPI Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 These are the foward lines made by the NHL Network. How do you think they did? And what changes should be made. Use the Hartford roster to make any replacement. Or just switch players to different lines. Krieder - Zibanejad - Zuccarello Namestnikov - Hayes - Buchnevich Vesey - Chytil - Fast Spooner - Anderson - McCleod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Switch Chytil and Hayes. The rest is fine, but would probably rather see Spooner get a crack on the 2nd line before Namestnikov. Ideally no Mcleod but whatever. The ship has sailed on that already since they just re-signed him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Please no McLeod with Andersson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Respecttheblue Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Switch Chytil and Hayes. The rest is fine, but would probably rather see Spooner get a crack on the 2nd line before Namestnikov. Ideally no Mcleod but whatever. The ship has sailed on that already since they just re-signed him. We've spent that money for just-in-case (JIC) / "in case of emergency break glass" signings before, and I tend to think it's a JIC signing. i.e. In case the team gets pushed around, needs a reminder/reason to slap the sideboards with their sticks, and for particularly tough/nasty matchups. Whether it'll help or be futile is another matter. Please no McLeod with Andersson se above. I certainly don't want to see him on Andersson's wing, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Top 9: Krieder - Zibanejad - Buchnevich Namestnikov - Chytil - Zuccarello Vesey - Hayes - Spooner ----------------------------------------------- 4th Line options: Meskanen/Ronning - Anderson - Fast McLeod - Holland/Nieves - Fast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Falco Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Please no McLeod with Andersson How about no McLeod at all? :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Top 9: Krieder - Zibanejad - Buchnevich Namestnikov - Chytil - Zuccarello Vesey - Hayes - Spooner ----------------------------------------------- 4th Line options: Meskanen/Ronning - Anderson - Fast McLeod - Holland/Nieves - Fast I'm not seeing them throw Chytil in a top 6 role as a rookie...maybe but end of year? 3rd line with pp time seems like the sweet spot for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 I'm not seeing them throw Chytil in a top 6 role as a rookie...maybe but end of year? 3rd line with pp time seems like the sweet spot for him.Those two lines are pretty interchangeable. Chytil's line gets mostly OZ starts, Hayes' line mostly DZ. Plus Hayes' line will be used to shut down the opponent's scoring line. Sent from my [device_name] using http://Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Those two lines are pretty interchangeable. Chytil's line gets mostly OZ starts, Hayes' line mostly DZ. Plus Hayes' line will be used to shut down the opponent's scoring line. Sent from my [device_name] using http://Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by TapatalkFair point. I can get down with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Those two lines are pretty interchangeable. Chytil's line gets mostly OZ starts, Hayes' line mostly DZ. Plus Hayes' line will be used to shut down the opponent's scoring line. Sent from my [device_name] using http://Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Bingo. I don't think I'd want Spooner on a line that is expected to be DZ first though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBrowningPI Posted July 21, 2018 Author Share Posted July 21, 2018 I'm not seeing them throw Chytil in a top 6 role as a rookie...maybe but end of year? 3rd line with pp time seems like the sweet spot for him.Yep, lovin this with youth injection. I would like to see Zucc playing with Kreider, they have a little chemistry. And Buch might like playing with Names. Sent from my SM-N900T using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBrowningPI Posted July 21, 2018 Author Share Posted July 21, 2018 I thought I replied to Lltk #5. Woops. Sent from my SM-N900T using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Bingo. I don't think I'd want Spooner on a line that is expected to be DZ first though. Meh, Spooner's a vet he'll be fine. You want a little extra D late in a close game you can bump Quickie up there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Yep, lovin this with youth injection. I would like to see Zucc playing with Kreider, they have a little chemistry. And Buch might like playing with Names. Sent from my SM-N900T using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk No way, we've seen what the KZB line can do. A new coach that won't shit all over Buch's confidence will make them even better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Top 9: Krieder - Zibanejad - Buchnevich Namestnikov - Chytil - Zuccarello Vesey - Hayes - Spooner ----------------------------------------------- 4th Line options: Meskanen/Ronning - Anderson - Fast McLeod - Holland/Nieves - Fast I’m good with this with Youth option for 4th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBrowningPI Posted July 22, 2018 Author Share Posted July 22, 2018 I'm hoping Ronning has a great showing at camp and we get to see him play at least during pre-season. A sparkle of offense on the 4th is better than McBlob. Sent from my SM-N900T using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Lothbrok Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 You know what's weird? I look at that lineup and think, "is there any combination of those names that doesn't make me want to vomit?" And then I remember that's exactly how I felt about the 05-06 lineup, before they went and broke a 7 year playoff drought. I mean, granted Henrik is much older now and we don't have the best player in the world in Jagr anymore, but I get this weird feeling the team will be surprisingly successful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 The F group is actually not terrible. The D, though. Woof. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYR2711 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Top 9: Krieder - Zibanejad - Buchnevich Namestnikov - Chytil - Zuccarello Vesey - Hayes - Spooner ----------------------------------------------- 4th Line options: Meskanen/Ronning - Anderson - Fast McLeod - Holland/Nieves - Fast I like this line-up. Just leave McLeod out all together. I like Fast with Anderson, hopefully that line would get more than 3 minutes a game though as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYR2711 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 No way, we've seen what the KZB line can do. A new coach that won't shit all over Buch's confidence will make them even better. Plus, I think Zucc helps Chytil more. He is a vet, and will stick up for Chytil if anyone tries to mess with him. Plus, Zucc likes to pass, so it may help Chytil score more goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBrowningPI Posted July 22, 2018 Author Share Posted July 22, 2018 Good point. I like it when Kreider scores and lifts his little viking up to celebrate though. I really hope the lines settle down after some time so the shuffling eases and each line knows what to expect from their linemate. Sent from my SM-N900T using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giacomin Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 I like this line-up. Just leave McLeod out all together. I like Fast with Anderson, hopefully that line would get more than 3 minutes a game though as well. Yeah! Respectdablue addressed it well. As a just in case enforcer, he may be useful as a 13th F. Don't want kids in the press box. He can be very useful in Hartford. A liability as a regular in NY. Bet the two Swedes together works. As two-way players it assists a younger scoring LW, which allows that line to get regular shifts down a goal, in the third. Moving Fast up (as King said) to protect a lead is/has been a great option. I wish Ronning would at least get a couple of months in Hartford. Smaller players (Zuc, St Louis, Marchessault) seem to take longer to develop. Maybe they need to really hone their skills to NHL level, since they never can rely on size or physicality. Hate to crush/interrupt Ronning's confidence by bringing him up because he flashed in an exhibition game, only to get him exposed a month into the season. He played as an overager in juniors for a reason. Even at the start of 2018, many (scouts and observers) thought he might not make the NHL. Why would he then be "the guy" to skip a level of development? Howden is a different story. His size and 2 way maturity is excellent. For some time he's been viewed as a likely 2C and getting close to ready. Due to the log jam at C, the team may prefer he gets a short stint in Hartford too. Unless Howden blows up camp, play them together in Hartford and sort things out in NYC till ~ Thanksgiving or injury. I don't know enough about Meskanen to provide a good opinion. Wouldn't he be more likely to make the team, assuming all 3 show similarly decent enough readiness and promise in camp? Or if Nieves has a very good camp, Quinn likely gives him another shot to prove himself. If he doesn't step up sometime this year, mgmt may cut bait with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 The first line was really clicking with Fast, so let's break that up. Mccleod. Please. Enough has been said on this, but with Anderson? Fortunately, my guess is that it won't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giacomin Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 The first line was really clicking with Fast, so let's break that up. Mccleod. Please. Enough has been said on this, but with Anderson? Fortunately, my guess is that it won't happen. Fast is so damn valuable that he actually clicked best with Zib/Kreid in the 2nd half. He can truly move all the way up or down the lineup. However, Fast should just be a temp on a top-line. As a PKer and D specialist (capable of contributing on O) he is more valuable in the bottom 6, moving up the lineup when needed. It may be better to give Buch first shot to win the job on RW. Though, I am curious if it'd be better for Buch and Names to pair the Ruskies with a scorer on the 2nd line. Buch would get better matchups and Names is great at exits and entries, a role Buch does not provide. A RW like Stone would make a big difference throughout the forward lineup. Just like a strong RHD would for the D corp. Since neither is likely, let's see if Buch is ready to step up. Pragmatically, it doesn't matter if he loses some matchups against top players. We are not competing, so why start with Fast on the top line unless Buch disappoints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Has Jesper Fast ever been put in a good position to succeed offensively? It is an intriguing discussion, given how he performed down the stretch last year. We know he's an excellent 3rd line checking forward. I do wonder if he's capable of more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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