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McDonagh Has to Go!


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He's been injured three yrs in a row now,which has limited his effectiveness. He's going to be 30yrs and your gonna have to give him 6 or 7 yrs.Absolute waste of money. His offense also doesn't measure up to the salary he's gonna want because he's always nursing nagging injuries.
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He still has another year before free agency. If they get their socks blown off, by all means, deal him. He's the kind of player you can basically get the St. Louis return for, except better. Two first-rounders and a roster player, minimum. But they've got time to make this decision.
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He still has another year before free agency. If they get their socks blown off, by all means, deal him. He's the kind of player you can basically get the St. Louis return for, except better. Two first-rounders and a roster player, minimum. But they've got time to make this decision.

 

As long as he doesn?t get another major injury. The way he plays, hard, sacrificial hockey, it?s a higher risk.

 

 

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I think Mac is an offseason deal. The Rangers would be far better suited knowing where the picks they get are going to be. Uncertainty is tough trading a player as valuable to the organization as Mac.

 

If, say, Edmonton or Florida, ends up with a top-5 pick, they could consider themselves just a a Mac away from being contenders and be willing to make that type of swap. Let's say one of these teams picks #5, it's possible that they do something like:

 

Mac and #20 for #5 and Darnel Nurse

Mac for #5 and Aleksi Heponiemi and Ian McCoshen

(add whatever picks to balance everything)

 

tl;dr...I just think you can get a more efficient return for Mac trading him in June than on deadline day, especially because there aren't many teams who are going to sell the farm to get him to be contenders this year. The number of playoff teams who need a #1 D is really small...Toronto, Boston, Washington, and Vegas are all that would really make sense.

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Any contending team could use mcd. They may already have a number 1 which mcd isn’t anyway. He’d be a monster for a team paired with a true number 1 or even bolstering their second pair. Mcd could truly be the piece that puts any legit contending team over the top.

 

If you are a gm lucky enough to be that close, not making an offer for mcd would be foolish. Yes it would cost a lot but he still has another year and two playoffs before he’s a ufa. His contract is a dream and he wouldn’t be a guy that would be hard to integrate into your team.

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Any contending team could use mcd. They may already have a number 1 which mcd isn’t anyway. He’d be a monster for a team paired with a true number 1 or even bolstering their second pair. Mcd could truly be the piece that puts any legit contending team over the top.

 

If you are a gm lucky enough to be that close, not making an offer for mcd would be foolish. Yes it would cost a lot but he still has another year and two playoffs before he’s a ufa. His contract is a dream and he wouldn’t be a guy that would be hard to integrate into your team.

Ok, yea, every GM should make an offer. But most aren't even going to come close to what the price should be for Mac. What is a team like Pitt realistically going to offer? They have no prospects and no roster players that make any sense for the Rangers. They have 1 good roster player under 25 and Daniel Sprong is their only prospect worth mentioning. He doesn't make SJS, Nashville, WPG, STL, or CGY much better for what he'd cost. Maybe there's a fit in Dallas.

 

The point is, the market for Mac, at the deadline, wouldn't be strong enough to drive up his price enough to make it worthwhile for the Rangers to trade him, especially with another year on his contract. If it comes down to it, they could trade him at next year's deadline.

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McDonagh has been hampered by injuries and inadequate partners. He will be a special player for a while. Prospects and picks, however heralded, have a less than even chance of ever turning out to be the player McDonagh. Don't burn the house and leave me watching Buffalo for seven years. This team is not that good currently, but it isn't that far from being much better.
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McDonagh has been hampered by injuries and inadequate partners. He will be a special player for a while. Prospects and picks, however heralded, have a less than even chance of ever turning out to be the player McDonagh. Don't burn the house and leave me watching Buffalo for seven years. This team is not that good currently, but it isn't that far from being much better.

 

Well, it won't be like that if done properly.

 

They can jettison these guys for picks/youth and have a lot of cap space to play with. NY is going to be a premium destination for FA's. Not like Buffalo or Edmonton.

 

If they can dump Hank somehow they could be set for another decade within a year or two.

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McDonagh has been hampered by injuries and inadequate partners.

This argument never works for me. If he's partner dependent, then there's absolutely no reason to keep him. It's not like the other great defenders in the league play with great partners. Karlsson/Methot. Burns/Martin and whatever scrub he's with this year. Keith/Hjalmarsson or Seabrook. Doughty/Muzzin. Weber/MTL Pilon. Who on that list is that much better than Girardi? Muzzin?

 

Mac is far more a victim of playing in a system that asks to move the puck first and use his legs second than he is his partners.

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Well, it won't be like that if done properly.

 

They can jettison these guys for picks/youth and have a lot of cap space to play with. NY is going to be a premium destination for FA's. Not like Buffalo or Edmonton.

 

If they can dump Hank somehow they could be set for another decade within a year or two.

FAs like who? Buffalo got Okposo and he was the best UFA available that year, except maybe Backes. He was the only player under 30 that was worth anything, anyways, and he left NYC to go to Buffalo lol

 

I guess instead of saying like who, I should say, to fill what role? Because if you're going to trade Zucc and then just sign JVR, you're in the same place, financially.

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You're in the same place financially and have a controllable ELC in exchange for Zucc.

 

Regardless, I'm not looking at the immediate FA class; next year would be a write-off as far as competing goes in a burn-down scenario, but the 19-20 FA class looks like this:

 

Seguin

Duchene

Karlsson

Eberle

Anders Lee

Ferland

Simmonds

Raffl

Ellis

Silfverberg

Henrique

Doughty

Panarin

Bobrovsky

Couture

Pavelski

Wheeler

Myers

Pacioretty

Skinner

Panik

Ekman-Larrsson

 

 

Obviously, a lot of those guys will never make it to FA, but some will.

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You're in the same place financially and have a controllable ELC in exchange for Zucc.

 

Regardless, I'm not looking at the immediate FA class; next year would be a write-off as far as competing goes in a burn-down scenario, but the 19-20 FA class looks like this:

 

Seguin

Duchene

Karlsson

Eberle

Anders Lee

Ferland

Simmonds

Raffl

Ellis

Silfverberg

Henrique

Doughty

Panarin

Bobrovsky

Couture

Pavelski

Wheeler

Myers

Pacioretty

Skinner

Panik

Ekman-Larrsson

 

 

Obviously, a lot of those guys will never make it to FA, but some will.

 

How dare you list Henrique as a potential option. That's gotta be an infractable offense...

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