Ice27 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 He's been injured three yrs in a row now,which has limited his effectiveness. He's going to be 30yrs and your gonna have to give him 6 or 7 yrs.Absolute waste of money. His offense also doesn't measure up to the salary he's gonna want because he's always nursing nagging injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 He still has another year before free agency. If they get their socks blown off, by all means, deal him. He's the kind of player you can basically get the St. Louis return for, except better. Two first-rounders and a roster player, minimum. But they've got time to make this decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Respecttheblue Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 He still has another year before free agency. If they get their socks blown off, by all means, deal him. He's the kind of player you can basically get the St. Louis return for, except better. Two first-rounders and a roster player, minimum. But they've got time to make this decision. As long as he doesn?t get another major injury. The way he plays, hard, sacrificial hockey, it?s a higher risk. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 There's a McDonagh for Nylander rumor going around. I would hope the Rangers get a little more for him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 I think any deal for McD with Toronto will include one of Dermott, Carrick or Borgman. If it's Dermott you aren't going to get Nylander as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers4Life Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 But but but we can?t trade the captain, or can we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 A lot of them have to go. Gorton's job is getting easier by the day: Keep the promising kids and trade the old dog shit! ..the coach goes first though...for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Falco Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 But but but we can?t trade the captain, or can we? They traded Callahan and I don?t think they keep a player around just because of the Captaincy. He?s gotta be worth keeping in every sense of the word. The team comes first not the player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers4Life Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 They traded Callahan and I don?t think they keep a player around just because of the Captaincy. He?s gotta be worth keeping in every sense of the word. The team comes first not the player. I was only kidding ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Falco Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 I was only kidding ;) Ah.. my fault :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 I think Mac is an offseason deal. The Rangers would be far better suited knowing where the picks they get are going to be. Uncertainty is tough trading a player as valuable to the organization as Mac. If, say, Edmonton or Florida, ends up with a top-5 pick, they could consider themselves just a a Mac away from being contenders and be willing to make that type of swap. Let's say one of these teams picks #5, it's possible that they do something like: Mac and #20 for #5 and Darnel Nurse Mac for #5 and Aleksi Heponiemi and Ian McCoshen (add whatever picks to balance everything) tl;dr...I just think you can get a more efficient return for Mac trading him in June than on deadline day, especially because there aren't many teams who are going to sell the farm to get him to be contenders this year. The number of playoff teams who need a #1 D is really small...Toronto, Boston, Washington, and Vegas are all that would really make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatfrancesa Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Any contending team could use mcd. They may already have a number 1 which mcd isn’t anyway. He’d be a monster for a team paired with a true number 1 or even bolstering their second pair. Mcd could truly be the piece that puts any legit contending team over the top. If you are a gm lucky enough to be that close, not making an offer for mcd would be foolish. Yes it would cost a lot but he still has another year and two playoffs before he’s a ufa. His contract is a dream and he wouldn’t be a guy that would be hard to integrate into your team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Any contending team could use mcd. They may already have a number 1 which mcd isn’t anyway. He’d be a monster for a team paired with a true number 1 or even bolstering their second pair. Mcd could truly be the piece that puts any legit contending team over the top. If you are a gm lucky enough to be that close, not making an offer for mcd would be foolish. Yes it would cost a lot but he still has another year and two playoffs before he’s a ufa. His contract is a dream and he wouldn’t be a guy that would be hard to integrate into your team. Ok, yea, every GM should make an offer. But most aren't even going to come close to what the price should be for Mac. What is a team like Pitt realistically going to offer? They have no prospects and no roster players that make any sense for the Rangers. They have 1 good roster player under 25 and Daniel Sprong is their only prospect worth mentioning. He doesn't make SJS, Nashville, WPG, STL, or CGY much better for what he'd cost. Maybe there's a fit in Dallas. The point is, the market for Mac, at the deadline, wouldn't be strong enough to drive up his price enough to make it worthwhile for the Rangers to trade him, especially with another year on his contract. If it comes down to it, they could trade him at next year's deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 If the Islanders can get a #1 and two #2's for Hamonic from the Flames the Rangers better get at least something similar for McDonagh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Hamonic had a long term contract in place for relative peanuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 In my opinion McDonagh is a lot more proven than Hamonic. I'm not trading him without getting well compensated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 McDonagh has been hampered by injuries and inadequate partners. He will be a special player for a while. Prospects and picks, however heralded, have a less than even chance of ever turning out to be the player McDonagh. Don't burn the house and leave me watching Buffalo for seven years. This team is not that good currently, but it isn't that far from being much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 In my opinion McDonagh is a lot more proven than Hamonic. I'm not trading him without getting well compensated. Totally agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 McDonagh has been hampered by injuries and inadequate partners. He will be a special player for a while. Prospects and picks, however heralded, have a less than even chance of ever turning out to be the player McDonagh. Don't burn the house and leave me watching Buffalo for seven years. This team is not that good currently, but it isn't that far from being much better. Well, it won't be like that if done properly. They can jettison these guys for picks/youth and have a lot of cap space to play with. NY is going to be a premium destination for FA's. Not like Buffalo or Edmonton. If they can dump Hank somehow they could be set for another decade within a year or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 McDonagh has been hampered by injuries and inadequate partners. This argument never works for me. If he's partner dependent, then there's absolutely no reason to keep him. It's not like the other great defenders in the league play with great partners. Karlsson/Methot. Burns/Martin and whatever scrub he's with this year. Keith/Hjalmarsson or Seabrook. Doughty/Muzzin. Weber/MTL Pilon. Who on that list is that much better than Girardi? Muzzin? Mac is far more a victim of playing in a system that asks to move the puck first and use his legs second than he is his partners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Well, it won't be like that if done properly. They can jettison these guys for picks/youth and have a lot of cap space to play with. NY is going to be a premium destination for FA's. Not like Buffalo or Edmonton. If they can dump Hank somehow they could be set for another decade within a year or two. FAs like who? Buffalo got Okposo and he was the best UFA available that year, except maybe Backes. He was the only player under 30 that was worth anything, anyways, and he left NYC to go to Buffalo lol I guess instead of saying like who, I should say, to fill what role? Because if you're going to trade Zucc and then just sign JVR, you're in the same place, financially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 You're in the same place financially and have a controllable ELC in exchange for Zucc. Regardless, I'm not looking at the immediate FA class; next year would be a write-off as far as competing goes in a burn-down scenario, but the 19-20 FA class looks like this: Seguin Duchene Karlsson Eberle Anders Lee Ferland Simmonds Raffl Ellis Silfverberg Henrique Doughty Panarin Bobrovsky Couture Pavelski Wheeler Myers Pacioretty Skinner Panik Ekman-Larrsson Obviously, a lot of those guys will never make it to FA, but some will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 You're in the same place financially and have a controllable ELC in exchange for Zucc. Regardless, I'm not looking at the immediate FA class; next year would be a write-off as far as competing goes in a burn-down scenario, but the 19-20 FA class looks like this: Seguin Duchene Karlsson Eberle Anders Lee Ferland Simmonds Raffl Ellis Silfverberg Henrique Doughty Panarin Bobrovsky Couture Pavelski Wheeler Myers Pacioretty Skinner Panik Ekman-Larrsson Obviously, a lot of those guys will never make it to FA, but some will. How dare you list Henrique as a potential option. That's gotta be an infractable offense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 How dare you list Henrique as a potential option. That's gotta be an infractable offense... Done. Sorry Dunny, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Not at all.. My bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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