josh Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 By the time CK is "ready to return", I think the team would have to really give some serious thought to whether or not to take a chance and let him finish out this season. It may be best for the kid to get everything set and make a go of it for next season instead. I think bringing him back this season is risky with that type of ailment....and god knows we only know the basic information. I'm no doctor either, but I can't see bringing him back to this squad and risk further injury or god forbid, career ending/life ending damage. I sure as hell wouldn't rush him back, and I'd be fine letting him stay on the sideline the rest of the year in this type instance. He's not going to be cleared to return if he's not healthy, or it poses any sort of damage to his health. He's out for so long due to the medication he is being put on... and once he is removed from that medication (after the condition is cleared up), theres an observation period. They'll do the necessary checks.. this isnt like coming back from a knee injury. If he's healthy enough to return, put him back in the lineup. With a kid that age, a few weeks of playing at the end of the season will get that motivation and drive back for the summer, as opposed to sitting out, being depressed and discouraged. Any player will tell you - its an awful way to end your season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giacomin Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Josh, the most important point you make is that once the condition is clear, it is the medication and observation that keeps him sidelined. Once the medication stops, not much else should stop him from rejoining the team. Particularly if they are meaningful games at the end of the season and/or playoffs. Just like Stamkos did last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Meaningful games is what I was aiming at. Sorry Josh...I wasn't clear in what I was trying to get at. It's going to be a tough call too! This team is a bubble type team where it could bounce either way at this point; They're not really a dominant 1st place finisher, and they're not a bottom feeder either. I think they'll do what they always do: Trade for a miracle at the deadline, toss away assets and go for it. I just hope they don't subject this kid to trouble down the road, because 4 years from now, this season is going to mean nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 He's not going to be cleared to return if he's not healthy, or it poses any sort of damage to his health. He's out for so long due to the medication he is being put on... and once he is removed from that medication (after the condition is cleared up), theres an observation period. They'll do the necessary checks.. this isnt like coming back from a knee injury. If he's healthy enough to return, put him back in the lineup. With a kid that age, a few weeks of playing at the end of the season will get that motivation and drive back for the summer, as opposed to sitting out, being depressed and discouraged. Any player will tell you - its an awful way to end your season Agreed. Kreider trains hard in the off season anyway. He works out with coaches from my son's advisor agency, and they rave about his work ethic. We're going up there this summer to work out for some prep schools, I love watching those guys train. Hopefully I'll get a chance to see him up there with a few other MA guys. They don't let the prep school and midget kids skate with college and pro guys, so I'm not sure if we'll cross paths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Agreed. Kreider trains hard in the off season anyway. He works out with coaches from my son's advisor agency, and they rave about his work ethic. We're going up there this summer to work out for some prep schools, I love watching those guys train. Hopefully I'll get a chance to see him up there with a few other MA guys. They don't let the prep school and midget kids skate with college and pro guys, so I'm not sure if we'll cross paths. How old is your son? We went out there and looked at a few schools when I was around 7th/8th grade. They were the first few schools we visited, I was like a deer caught in the headlights - hindered the experience a bit. You looking to send him, or just a summer program? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 How old is your son? We went out there and looked at a few schools when I was around 7th/8th grade. They were the first few schools we visited, I was like a deer caught in the headlights - hindered the experience a bit. You looking to send him, or just a summer program? He's a late 02, just turned 15. 98% of his teammates are always a grade higher. He's a true freshman, so if I send him I won't have him repeat yet. The agency runs a bunch of skates in the offseason to let schools and coaches get a look. He was scouted last year and picked up some steam at a showase in MA this past August. Long fuckin way to go, we'll see what happens lol. So Kreider, Vesey, and a few other NHL guys (I think the Hayes brothers, but not sure) train in the same circles as scouts in his agency, so it'll be an awesome experience if he gets to be around them this spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Meaningful games is what I was aiming at. Sorry Josh...I wasn't clear in what I was trying to get at. It's going to be a tough call too! This team is a bubble type team where it could bounce either way at this point; They're not really a dominant 1st place finisher, and they're not a bottom feeder either. I think they'll do what they always do: Trade for a miracle at the deadline, toss away assets and go for it. I just hope they don't subject this kid to trouble down the road, because 4 years from now, this season is going to mean nothing. If they stay on the bubble for the next two months, Kreider is essentially the piece they bring in at the deadline. It's a really good sign if this team stays in a playoff spot without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 If they stay on the bubble for the next two months, Kreider is essentially the piece they bring in at the deadline. It's a really good sign if this team stays in a playoff spot without him. This is true, Future. I'm just concerned for the guy, since he's going to be a big piece of this franchise, hopefully for many years to come. I wouldn't want to see him risk his career for a team, or better yet a coaching staff that won't win. Kreider has all the talent, speed and size to be a top 10 player in this league. This team in my opinion isn't a "bubble team" because we don't have the talent.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 https://nypost.com/2018/02/13/raring-and-lucky-chris-kreider-to-rangers-im-ready/ Possibly skating at practice on Wednesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zman Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 He was coughing up blood and didn't think to mention it? That's crazy. No young guy who doesn't smoke and didn't just have a nose bleed should be coughing up blood. Yikes, what these guys play with, thats nuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 https://nypost.com/2018/02/13/raring-and-lucky-chris-kreider-to-rangers-im-ready/ Possibly skating at practice on Wednesday He really sounds like a dumb kid lol "Oh, Im coughing blood for 2-3 weeks... Must be part of the game" "Oh, I cant feel my arm... Must have slept wrong" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddynyc Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 He was coughing up blood and didn't think to mention it? That's crazy. No young guy who doesn't smoke and didn't just have a nose bleed should be coughing up blood. Yikes, what these guys play with, thats nuts I understand these guys are tough but when you are coughing up blood ya think he'd say something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyb Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Yeah. That was a tough read. Silly Kreider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Falco Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 He really sounds like a dumb kid lol "Oh, Im coughing blood for 2-3 weeks... Must be part of the game" "Oh, I cant feel my arm... Must have slept wrong" I believe my reaction to reading that part was "you fucking idiot!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 ...not exactly working with a member of the faculty of Harvard with this kid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 He is a college drop out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 He is a college drop out. Shocker!!! right? :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 He is a college drop out. Krieder is probably the most academically oriented of the Rangers. With a perfect 4.3 average, he won a scholarship to the most prestigious and academically rigorous prep school in the country, Andover. He learned how to speak I believe four languages in school, including Russian. He was close to finishing his degree in the off seasons as of a few years ago, and I assume he has done so. Obviously, it was poor judgment of him not to seek immediate intervention given the symptoms, but dumb he ain't. https://www.nhl.com/news/rangers-kreider-legend-in-massachusetts-hometown/c-721639 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Don't get me wrong Sod, I like Kreider and I love his game, but holy freakin' shit, dude....he's gotta be smarter with himself than that!! A lot of the Rangers' future plans and hopes are riding on this kid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Krieder is probably the most academically oriented of the Rangers. With a perfect 4.3 average, he won a scholarship to the most prestigious and academically rigorous prep school in the country, Andover. He learned how to speak I believe four languages in school, including Russian. He was close to finishing his degree in the off seasons as of a few years ago, and I assume he has done so. Obviously, it was poor judgment of him not to seek immediate intervention given the symptoms, but dumb he ain't. https://www.nhl.com/news/rangers-kreider-legend-in-massachusetts-hometown/c-721639 Yea, I don't think anybody actually thinks he's dumb lol I think he's too smart for his own good, sometimes. He'd be a better player if he was more of a caveman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck Head Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Kreider is highly intelligent from what I?ve been told, and it shows in interviews. Sometimes those types think too often on the ice which is better suited for those who react....game is too fast for thinking Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LONG LONG LONG TIME FAN Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Kreider cleared to play, expected to return soon for Rangers Forward has been out since Dec. 27 because of blood clot in right arm Forward Chris Kreider has been cleared medically and is expected to return to the New York Rangers' lineup in the next few days, coach Alain Vigneault said Wednesday. Kreider has not played since being diagnosed with a blood clot in his right arm on Dec. 27. Vigneault said Kreider will not travel with the Rangers for their game against the Montreal Canadiens at Bell Centre on Thursday (7:30 p.m. ET; TSN2, RDS, MSG 2, NHL.TV), but could play at home against the Minnesota Wild on Friday or at home against the Detroit Red Wings on Sunday. https://www.nhl.com/news/new-york-rangers-chris-kreider-cleared-to-play/c-296200962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 The Rangers were 20-13-4 with him, even with a terrible start, and 7-15-1 since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Seems like a quick turnaround. I hope he's not rushing back. I'd almost rather he comes back next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 It's not like its an injury. If it happens again, it could be some Jed Ortmeyer syndrome, but playing should effect it. He wasnt playing because he was on blood thinners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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