Phil Posted November 23, 2014 Author Share Posted November 23, 2014 They have more ECW-envy than WCW, but I agree. It's time go back to being TNA, not WCW, not ECW, not WWE-lite, etc. Be the company you set out to be from the start. Emphasis on impact of your product. That's the whole reason the show was called Impact. High-flying, high-impact looking/feeling wrestling product, driven by the early days of the X Division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twentyseven Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Sting debuted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontonyr Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Sting debuted Very anti-climactic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreaseCrusader91 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Yeah, anti-climactic, but it could be a nice little feud going forward. That said, nice to see him finally debut. http://giant.gfycat.com/ShadowyVapidCarpenterant.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontonyr Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Yeah, anti-climactic, but it could be a nice little feud going forward. That said, nice to see him finally debut. It's nice that they finally popped the cherry, I'll give you that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 24, 2014 Author Share Posted November 24, 2014 It's backwards to skirt copyrights, but you can watch Sting's WWE debut here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU6ffp3cnkI -- I love Sting. Far and away my favorite wrestler of all-time, so I may just check out RAW tonight. Or if I don't, I'll at least have a pulse on how his WWE run is going. He's exactly the type of guy who can get me watching WWE programming again, simply to see Sting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjweimar Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I just wish they could do better than him facing HHH...It sucks that Undertaker can't really wrestle anymore since that is the match everyone wants...unless he signs for two matches, one Royal Rumble HHH and Undertaker WM31 then get retired and into the HOF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Showstoppa113 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 CM Punk rips WWE, doctors in interview about his departure from company http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/DKr43Kl_ipPgcSkxe7yhHg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTM3NztweG9mZj01MDtweW9mZj0wO3E9NzU7dz02NzA-/http://l.yimg.com/os/publish-images/sports/2013-12-15/ccdf4020-a6b9-4f9f-b702-65cce43a1e8b_CM-punk.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twentyseven Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 More on the Punk story, from rajah.com http://rajah.com/node/44464 Former WWE Superstar CM Punk has broken his silence on the circumstances that led to his WWE departure in a lengthy interview with Colt Cabana on the Art of Wrestling Podcast. There is a tremendous amount of material covered in the 2-hour podcast and we highly recommend you listen to the podcast to hear everything from Punk himself. We're covering Punk's final days in WWE below - but the podcast covers three years of Punk's WWE run, dating back to Money in the Bank 2011 After years of working through injuries and WWE's "toxic" creative environment, Punk requested a meeting with Vince McMahon and Triple H at the 2014 Royal Rumble. "I looked Vince in the eye and I said, 'I do not love this anymore. I'm f----- sick, I'm f------ hurt, I'm f------ confused, I don't know as a business what we're doing anymore. Every day you tell me it's a team effort, but every day it's an individual effort by me to find what's necessary to even f-n come here. It's not fun. I have zero passion for this. I'm concussed, I'm hurt, and alls you care about is what segment I'm in and how soon I can get my gear on and how soon I can pee in this cup and I don't want to do it anymore.' "I mentioned something about the piss test and Hunter said, 'Well, you know, Dave (Batista) just took the same piss test you did.' And I just looked at Hunter and went, 'Well, did you?' And he had nothing to say. I said (to McMahon), 'Look, I thought when I re-signed three years ago I told you if I couldn't be all that I said I could be, you could f----- fire me. And, if I was a fraud and anything less and fell short of the f------ mark - I said, 'I sold more shirts than John Cena until I turned heel for you. You said you owed me one. I worked guys that were dangerous and you said you owed me one. I did all these things and alls I wanted was the main event of WrestleMania. And it's fine if you don't think that is me and I'm not the caliber of that Superstar, but then you need to f------ fire me. Because I do not want to be here and I do not want to be anything else.' And then I will go somewhere else and get over because I can. "You have shackled me, you have creatively stifled me, you have made this a very toxic environment, I no longer want to be here. It boggles my mind how Daniel Bryan has not figured into your plans to be in the main event of WrestleMania because this is his year. Just like two years ago when it was my year and I was white f----- hot, just like he is now, and what did you do? You fed me to this guy.' And I pointed to right at Hunter. Vince was like, 'This is the concussion talking. I can't believe you're saying any of this. It is a main event - you're wrestling Triple H." "I politely turned to Hunter and I said, 'With all due respect, I do not need to wrestle you. You need to wrestle me. I do not want to wrestle you. I seriously resent you for not putting me over three years ago when you should have. That would have been best for business. But, you had to come in and squash it. And then I had to lose to Truth and Miz. It didn't make any business sense and now I'm in the position where I can tell you I don't have to nor do I want to wrestle you at WrestleMania. I don't care if I was supposed to win - which I was - I didn't want to give him the f------ privilege. "I said a lot of s--- in there. I told them again - and Hunter was gritting his teeth, and he never liked me. Me and him in a room together - it was always negative vibes." "Hunter told me I was in the main event because I wrestled The Undertaker," Punk continued. "I turned to him and said, 'Tell me I got paid the same amount of money as you, Brock, Cena, Rock, or whoever.' And once again, he had nothing to say. I was like, 'I'm out of here.' Vince, with tears in his eyes, went in for a hug, and it was like a reluctant patting on the back, then I looked at Hunter and he stuck his hand out and I shook his hand. I said, 'Goodbye,' and I walked out." Punk said he had not officially quit the company at this point, which is "when the story got really good." Vince McMahon texted him a week later and asked if he was ready to return yet, a sign that Vince really was not getting the message. Punk had been wrestling for months with a mass on his back that he says WWE doctors refused to properly diagnose. Punk went to a doctor that AJ Lee recommended who told him the mass was "a full-blown staph infection." When Punk told the doctor that he worked with the mass on his back for three months, Punk said the doctor told him: "You should be dead. You could have died." Punk said Vince contacted him to tell him he's suspended for two months, with the suspension ending the day after WrestleMania. After the two month suspension was up, nobody from WWE contacted him. The next thing he heard about it was Vince McMahon telling investors that he was "on a sabbatical" and then his royalty checks stopped coming. The royalty check issue was the "final straw" after all he had put up with. Punk recalled getting a text from Triple H on June 11, two days before his wedding to AJ Lee. Punk said he explained his situation to Hunter - he was getting married, going on his honeymoon and they could continue the discussion when he got back. On the day of his wedding, he received a FedEx package with his termination papers. "I was fired on my wedding day," Punk said. That pushed him over the edge, especially clauses in the letter saying he forfeits all royalties and WWE claims a breach of contract retro-active to January. Punk hired one of the top lawyers in Los Angeles to deal with the matter. Punk said he cannot talk about the terms of the settlement, but he "got everything I wanted and more." He said WWE owes him an apology for calling him a quitter in his home town of Chicago. Punk said WWE was terrified of him going to TNA, but Punk's lawyer told them that Punk "absolutely despises pro wrestling" and he's "never going to wrestle again." "There is no working relationship, and there never will be ever again. That wedding day thing was pretty ridiculous" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 Punk going to TNA at the time would have been a coup, and probably would have vaulted TNA back into the limelight by capitalizing on a toxic situation with WWE, similar to how WWE brought in Steve Austin post-ECW/WCW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twentyseven Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Im listening to the interview and it is very enlightening (although not shocking). Here is the link, it is 90 minutes though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaxEykoe_Bg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karan Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 That was a tough read. It really is a damn shame that the WWE treats these guys like commodities, guys who bust their balls and life for the business day in & day out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 1, 2014 Author Share Posted December 1, 2014 They've been doing that for fifty-plus years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twentyseven Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 [video=youtube;QkROZ-vJYTE] Part 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Punk to TNA would've been epic, I wished it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 5, 2014 Author Share Posted December 5, 2014 I wasn't watching WWE at all during this whole thing, but the Punk stuff is riveting. Also, TNA getting a new logo in 2015, per Dixie Carter. Josh Matthews, formerly of WWE, is also likely heading to the broadcast booth with Taz around the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreaseCrusader91 Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 I wasn't watching WWE at all during this whole thing, but the Punk stuff is riveting. Also, TNA getting a new logo in 2015, per Dixie Carter. Josh Matthews, formerly of WWE, is also likely heading to the broadcast booth with Taz around the same time. So a three man booth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 5, 2014 Author Share Posted December 5, 2014 Tough to say. Tenay's contract is up. There's been no indication as to whether they're going to re-sign him, though I did see a rumor they may transition him to other roles, like in-ring announcing, backstage interviews, etc. Similar to the role Borash holds/held. I'd be OK with a three-man booth though. Matthews takes over as the "face" and handles play-by-play with Tenay playing the third man the same way he did in WCW with Taz as color like Heenan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreaseCrusader91 Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 http://www.wrestlingnewsworld.com/cm-punk-signs-multi-fight-deal-ufc/ And from Yahoo live blog, after speaking with Dana White Kevin Iole: Said he could be 1 and done or could be around a while. We'll have to see, he said Said Punk can sell PPVs but he said he's not sure if Punk will be on PPV at the start He said he's not sure when Punk will fight. Said he'll need some time. Dana guessed six-seven months, but said he wasn't sure when. Said Punk hasn't said that. Said he is planning to go 185, but said Punk told him, "I'm not ruling out 170" http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ufc-181-live-chat-and-analysis-215254338-mma.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 7, 2014 Author Share Posted December 7, 2014 It'll be interesting to see if he fights Phil Baroni, who challenged him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontonyr Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 It'll be interesting to see if he fights Phil Baroni, who challenged him. Baroni is a joke, a glorified jobber. Moreover, he supported "War Machine" after he abused/destroyed his pornstar girlfriend. So by Pro Wrestling standards, this makes perfect sense. Experienced jobber heel challenges baby face newcomer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twentyseven Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Punk is gonna get his ass beat (and I love Punk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontonyr Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Punk is gonna get his ass beat (and I love Punk) Eventually. He's actually formally trained, surprisingly, and he will likely be given a shot to succeed with what would seem like a string of less-than-stellar opponents. That said, most fighters get their "ass beat" at some point, and it wouldn't surprise me if that were the case for him when he finally does see formidable foes, especially given his fragile past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontonyr Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Anyone checking out Wrestle Kingdom 9 on PPV this weekend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 31, 2014 Author Share Posted December 31, 2014 Nope. "Strong style" ain't my style, and I've just never been able to get into the majority of Japanese wrestlers. I can't tell their names apart, and none speak or speak English, which makes telling them apart even more difficult. I do have tickets to the Jan 9th IMPACT taping at Manhattan Center though, which it turns out will be Lockdown! So pumped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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