Dave

Best episode of the series so far.

Just watched it. I don't remember the last time my hand came to cover my mouth so often as I prepared for the shock I knew was coming. When Mickey says to Bunchy's friend he's got a joke for him, I almost pissed myself. I love it when a TV show can make you uncomfortable and this episode did, over and over and over and over. Start to finish, definitely the best ones they've delivered.

Didn't the main character die during filming?

One of the main supporting characters. They finished the last 3 episodes without him, although I haven't gotten to watch them yet.

That is something most fans want to see wrapped up. I believe they have tons of stuff that needs to be wrapped up next week. It's going to be a jam-packed episode

This is why I didn't like last night's episode. It would have made for a compelling 20 minutes of an episode, but dragged out over an hour it seemed to both lose punch and also take away screen time for other issues that need to be resolved. I get that next week will probably be a 1 hour 10 minutes or so, but it's still a lot to resolve on top of setting up stuff for next season.

 

The only thing I can say is keep watching and you'll find out.

Yes, I know. And I will. I just think by doing the Castle Black iso, they needed it to be epic. I thought they handled the Battle of the Blackwater much better. With all that I think will be in the Finale, I hope they don't have to rush things now.

This' date=' too. I thought there were 2 more after this, not just the finale. I'm quickly falling into "not caring" at all with this show. It's too long between seasons, it's become stale this season, it's just lost it's "wow" factor, IMO.[/quote']

 

I thought last episode was pretty good ending with that fight scene. It's been up and down this season. That's partly because of the way the stories unfolded though. The weddings coming where they did makes last season end and this season start so strongly.

 

How do you top that?

An hour long battle scene against impossible odds' date=' that the Night's Watch somehow wins, inexplicably, where it's dark the whole time and you can't really tell who's on which side? It was like watching the Transformer movies. Lots of loud noises, but the fight is to confusing to follow.[/quote']

 

This. Not thrilled with the episode. If you are going to break with the typical jump around narrative, it has to be epic. Instead, as you pointed out, we had a lot of noise back dropping poorly lit and chaotic visuals.

 

They had opportunities, too. Fighting the giant in the tunnel for instance. But instead they went before and after on it.

 

The stuff they did well, the giant arrow skewering the Crow and sending him flying from the wall, the anchored chain getting the wildlings that were climbing the wall, Sam letting out Ghost and the barrels of burning oil were all over too quickly.

 

There were a few good moments, but no where near enough to hold a second to last episode. Had it been a standard transition episode setting up a number of story lines across Westeros, that would have been one thing. But it wasn't.

Yeah, same. Theater acting is a little different, as well — it certainly doesn't carry the same "weight" in the celebrity sense.

I remember when I watched Batman Begins again a year or so ago, I yelled, "NO, KILL HIM BATMAN!" when I noticed his quick scene. He made me hate his fucking face in such a beautiful way from an acting standpoint.

Not sure if this was posted yet.

http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/04/08/game-of-thrones-renewed-for-two-more-seasons/?hpt=hp_t3

'Game of Thrones' renewed for TWO more seasons

 

HBO has renewed its hit fantasy drama Game of Thrones for a fifth and sixth season.

 

The renewal comes on the heels of a record-breaking fourth season premiere April 6, with the series garnering 6.6 million viewers. That made the premiere episode HBO’s most-watched program since The Sopranos’ series finale in 2007. Two replays of the Thrones episode propelled the full-night tally up to 8.2 million viewers.

 

This is one of those shows that it's best to not really question much. These details are why it will never be on the same par as some of it's HBO counterparts.

In that scene, Ray and the movie star are sitting in the car, facing the cameras. Assume they've got a good shot of them through the windshield and the car's plates. Then, as if there is no such thing as "recording" he comes out with the gas mask and destroys the cameras.

Also, he's over protective of his children, except when it comes to letting his son hang out with a degenerate, drug and sex addict movie star. That's OK.

Oh, and I know Mickey's been in the can a while, but presumably he's heard of "DNA". You know, that thing you might leave behind on the beer mug you were drinking from before you shot the FBI agent in the head. Oh, and regardless of who the agent told what, there has to be some one, some where who knows that the FBI agent got Mickey off for the priest's murder in order to turn him. They don't just do that sort of thing with a wink, a hand shake and no questions asked.

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Lot of funny stuff coming out:

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I remember maybe 30%, roughly know about another 30% and for everything else there is Ice&Fire Wiki and similar pages. :D

This. I'm constantly vaguely remembering something and having to google it to clear up details.

They're more suggestions than spoilers. It's like starting a new job and having a person show you around telling you who to like or not like. People should have a blank slate when watching this show, free of suggestion.

They're suggestions based on knowing things that are likely to happen because they happen in the books. So if someone is complaining about their favorite characters always dying and so someone suggests they like a character they know isn't, at least in the books, going to die for the foreseeable future, that's sort of a spoiler.

This just showed up in my google feed. Watching it now.

@maggiekb1:

 

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That's so funny. I have to re-watch the scene because I was staring at the Mrs. who didn't read the book and had absolutely no idea what was about to happen. She kept saying how smart Rob was being and was happy that this conflict was behind him so he could continue his battle with the Lannisters.

She said out loud, "why is the mom so interested in the band?" Then when Bolton showed the chain mail she was like, "what's going on?".

Then shock and anger.

I played it up a little earlier. When Bran and John didn't meet up, she asked if the Starks would ever get together. Then with Arya and Rob/Cat so close to meeting, she finally thought there was going to be a happy reunion.

I did have to tell her to look away with Grey Wind, but she didn't.

After all that, she was said something like, "Great, now that ass hole kid is going to win". I really had to try not to laugh.

Oh it was totally well done. Not sure if people who watch the show casually and didn't even read the books would get the weight of the song (the melody played in the background) but overall, yea the show is being run well. Just that was the most significant application of the song, throughout the books as of DWD. I wanted it to be front and center.

The only real change from the book is that Talisa dies pregnant in the show but in the book Jeyne is left at Riverrun and eventually returned to her family, not pregnant as far as we know.

Death doesn't matter, what you leave behind is what matters, he died with honor and is now feasting with the gods :)

He left behind the War of the 5 Kings, death and destruction across the land and no one paying attention to the threat North of the wall. Nice job, Ned.

Eh, Catelyn's concerned for her kids which is something any mother (even Cersei) would do. And yes, she spends about the same amount of time as Sansa whining. The point is that she does something about it, and has no delusions about some hero-figure coming to rescue her.

 

Granted, she's the worst of the comparisons in my list, and was only tossed in to make a point via exaggeration, which obviously ultimately undermined my point. But like I said, at this point it's all opinion. I hate Sansa, do not feel bad for her, and feel she fails to live up to the Stark standard of awesomeness. That is all.

Actually, Ned failed the worst as far as living up the Stark standard of awesomeness. Followed the same roadmap that got the last Hand killed and lost his head over it in front of both of his daughters.

The point is, for me at least, the reactions among the Stark children. Everyone else is doing something proactive about their plight while Sansa waits for rescue. And NYRangers92, I agree with you. It's done intentionally by Martin to burst the whole fantasy-world bubble. It's a masterful job of character development and story-telling. That doesn't mean I have to like her.

 

Anyway, it's all opinion so there's no right answer to this discussion. All I know is that I'm supposed to feel sorry for her, but instead I get angry with her. It's like she's the only one of the kids that learned absolutely nothing from her father OR her mother. Catelyn Stark wouldn't take any of this crap either.

She wasn't brought up to fight. That's the point. They make a lot, early on, out of Sansa being a dutiful daughter that excels in her lessons and who will marry to improve the family lot. Arya is rebellious and could care less about stitching, proper manors or being married off for gain. I get if you like that in her character, but Arya's the exception when it comes to female children of high born families, not the rule.

If you feel like Sansa's too old to behave this way in the show, that's a casting issue. She's 14, not 20, which is about how old her character looks there.