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https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/31-thoughts-sabres-islanders-postponement-cause-concern/

Let's spin the wheel of "People not named Libor Hajek" and figure it out. Come on up....Darren Raddysh! I have no idea. It's probably Hajek.

It's a value question. If you retain salary, you also skip that year 2 caphit in a year where you need to figure out Fox, Zibanejad, Kakko, and probably Kravtsov. Pushing that 883k extra hit from 2023 into 2022 by using a retained salary transaction might be the more valuable path, especially given that we're freeing up 9M in space just in buyouts at the end of this season. It's a "well, are we getting our money's worth retaining somewhere between 400k and 2.4M in 2022 if we make this deal?"

It's two separate things. There's what actually happened - which the Rangers will assuredly keep under wraps - and you're quite right that's it's death by a thousand cuts here. Then, there's the rest: There's the person ADA is on the web and on social media - keyboard warrior with a bent toward conspiracy theories - that makes him an easy target but also adds in to speculation. There's the person ADA has been historically - his past is well known and well established and he's been punished for it many times. There's whomever leaked that info to Herman and got him to publish it - that fueled the flames and bluntly, was a garbage thing to do. Ultimately, people root for assholes to fail, and while he might have been angelic in the room, he was anything but that in every other aspect of his outward persona. It's bullshit that the stories going around about what happened aren't factual (or at least, not confirmed as factual), but I have a hard time feeling bad for him when he's sleeping in a bed of his own making, based heavily on who he is known to be, and his employer can't really disclose the truth without destroying what little value he has left and probably ending his career.

That's kind of the point, right? This isn't spurious, it's the end of a long chain of events. We're privy to the very end of the chain and very little more.

You gotta slow down. The beat writers, specifically Carp, said the puck thing may have happened in a different way and may be getting blown way out of proportion. The team said it didn't happen. That's at odds - they're not stories that agree with each other. Since the post you quoted, Carp clarified his statements to emphatically state that it didn't happen as Herman said it did. As for JD? He's got a broken asset that they're going to sell for pennies on the dollar, so what he and JG say should be taken as "protecting an asset" right now. And maybe they know something we don't about the market for ADA, since they've been trying to trade him since the bubble.

I'm willing to bet that we're not getting over half the story here. This probably goes back to the bubble, if not further. Nobody gets cut for just a poor reaction to being benched and a second event. The poor reaction to the benching was the second to last straw. Provoking a fight with a teammate was the last one. There are almost assuredly so many more straws here.

Gotta bottle that third period up and run with it. That was the best period of hockey they've played all season. Kreider could have had like 6 goals. Zib is coming. Laf is coming. Key and Fox are just incredible. Big win and a good team effort.

Sounds like it's exactly what they've been saying - he's been a distraction and was warned. Frankly - good on Gorton for keeping his word. That goes miles - both ways - with culture building.

Does it really matter? What was said was enough that his own coach slapped him with the suspension before involving the league. It's not about content, it's about intent.

I'm thinking you don't understand the stats, you don't understand my argument (which is that somehow, in spite of his zone start advantage and his possession advantage - which is likely driven by PP time - he's still god awful), or you're simply trying to do literally anything to distract from the fact that he's been horrible on the ice and, as reported, a problem off the ice. First it was Quinn, then the goalies aren't making stops, then it's the centers, now it's the entire offense....when do you just turn around and go "wow, the common factor here is ADA"? Spoiler - he's the common factor. Other players are scoring just fine without faceoff wins. Other players are defending just fine and not giving up high value chances. Why can't ADA?

I hope we pull no punches. FUCK - I was scooped on that one. Whatever. Let's give the Pens a few black eyes.

Fox took ADA's PP time and now ADA can't be useful. Obviously.

Face off wins mean you had first touch after a face off. If your first pass goes to Teddy Blueger, you don't have possession anymore. Yet, as stated - in spite of his strong possession numbers, he's still getting rocked, and in spite of all the evidence piling up, you're still trying to argue that ADA is a victim of anything but his own garbage play and his own garbage attitude.

Your argument basically boils down to "I hate Quinn and therefore everything anyone does on the team is his fault", so we're obviously at an impasse if you just don't think players deserve to be held accountable for their decisions that actively hurt their teams. Meanwhile, Quinn had ADA at nearly .8 points per game last year. Ruined, truly. Has nothing to do with Tony's now 10 year history of being an unrelenting shithead in his hockey career.

7-1 Rangers, sole goal for Pitt scored by Anthony Angello. Laf and Kakko for 3 points each, Zib with a hatty, and Fox with 6 secondary assists.

There's also a bit of hockey culture in here - you don't bad mouth teammates, you don't air the dirty laundry publicly, etc, etc. It's one of those things that you probably never get the full truth of until years later, but this sort of action is almost never taken without something truly extraordinary happening. That he's got a history of being a 5'11" hemorrhoid just makes it worse.

Faceoffs are somewhat overrated - it's possession you're after - and somehow, as stated earlier, he's not only got strong possession numbers (probably mostly power-play time), but he's still getting pushed through like a turnstile at Grand Central around 510PM. Regardless, again - he's literally the only Ranger with numbers this god awful, and again, blaming his shortcomings on other players is a bullshit management/argument tactic.

He's not only an asshole, he's a fucking bad hockey player this year and an asshole.

Because ADA's stats are superhumanly fucking awful. He's doing almost nothing but giving up high danger chances. If you replace ADA with literally any JAG defender, we're a 4-2-1 team. That's not even hyperbole, because the most average NHL defender doesn't give up such high danger opportunities that they're letting in one of every four shots. It's doubly impressive because he's doing it with very positive possession numbers. It should be impossible, but ADA makes the impossible feel real. Regardless, "Oh, but everyone is bad" doesn't excuse being so bad you're three totem heads underground.

The more you piece the puzzle together, the more you're led to believe that there was a serious distraction in the locker room and ADA was at the center of it. I suppose the next few games will be quite telling with regard to whether or not that speculation turns out accurate.

While there's clearly some kind of problem that's taken foot with the way this team plays, none of it has anything to do with DeAngelo getting himself offed from the team with his shit behavior. It might be in part because ADA has been an absolutely atrocious hockey player thus far. Again, blaming Quinn for DeAngelo behaving like DeAngelo - doubly so when Quinn seemed to have him on the straight and narrow for almost two full seasons with the Rangers - is just trying to find any other reason to excuse DeAngelo from having to be accountable. If he had any modicum of self-control, Quinn would have been credited with saving ADA's career.

Not to state the obvious, but if there's one thing this year should have made clear already it's that hockey games aren't won on last years statsheet. This year, DeAngelo has been a disaster in every zone. There's not really much sugarcoating it - he's been absolutely terrible. His ice time is almost unchanged, he's getting crazy zone starts (70% offensive zone starts is borderline insane), and yet he's sitting here with almost impossibly bad offensive and defensive numbers. When he's on the ice, the opponents have been scoring with roughly 23% of shots taken. To understand how god-awful that is: Jack Johnson, defensive pariah's shooting percent against is 12.1. Last year, ADA was up around 8%, which is around where you'd hope he is. For the record, Fox is at 3%, which is fucking incredible, and testament to how god damn good he is. Put another way, he's been almost twice as bad at defense as Jack Johnson. When he's not doing it at the other end of the ice, it's a huge problem.

I think the move right now is to find out what price folks are willing to take him at. Only a handful of teams could actually have claimed him, and internal caps hit a bunch of them. They'll give it a few weeks and if there's no match, he's going to be bought out in the offseason.

Josh - this isn't a "belief" that ADA is an asshole. This is an endless, well-documented series of events bearing out that ADA is an asshole. You'd be fired for not hiring him based on his resume, but you would certainly consider him a risky hire based on his interview, or have serious pause based on his press, or ask yourself whether or not his character is a good fit for the corporate culture. Because those things matter. Let's talk about what managers do to problem employees who don't take feedback without a tantrum, too. Good managers try to rehab, and if rehab doesn't work, they fire. There's only so much tolerance for "good performer, bad for culture", and you know as well as I do that the second those folks exit the "good performer" quadrant, they're on the ropes. Blaming ADA throwing tantrums and instigating fights on Quinn is straight up wrong - Quinn got him on the straight and narrow last year, and ADA took himself off of it. There's plenty of other things to blame Quinn about - ADA deciding to return to being ADA after wearing his plastic halo for a year is not one of them.