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As I said last night. we went toe-to-toe with them the whole way. Barkov had the assist of the goddamn season to break through for the first goal. When they got the winning bounce, they showed us how to work to defend a lead and close a game. All credit goes to the Panthers for that third period - that was a masterclass in how to win a one-goal game.

There's not much of a gap here right now. And if I were Chris Drury or Bill Zito, I'm feeling pretty good after that one. Make the moves and lock horns again in two weeks. 

12 minutes ago, Pistol Pete said:

To get technical, for an 80mph shot from the top of the circles, a goalie has .09 seconds to react…in reality, the human body can’t react that quickly…so, goalies go by reading the release of the puck.  You learn to know where a shot is going before it leaves the stick by the way the stick is releasing.  So, when you get a slight deflection like that one, you have absolutely no clue where it’s deflecting to and therefore, no time to react…granted, that shot wasn’t 80mph, but the average NHL goalie can react in .2 seconds (far longer than .09).  Even putting Shesty above average, he’s not even breaking .16.  You watch any great save on a deflection and you’ll see the puck hits the goalie and then the goalie reacts, making it look like they reacted to the deflection and made a great save.  The save by Bob on the deflection by Zib wasn’t a reaction save, it as a position save…Bob read the pass, put his glove 13 inches off the ice (because the goalie pad is 11 inches and players are taught to deflect it just above the pads and below the glove, and the puck just went right into his glove…if that puck is deflected anywhere else, Bob has no shot at a save, just hopes it hits him…

So what you're saying is that the deflection that barely deflected wouldn't have gone in had Shesterkin actually read the release properly and been ready. 

Look, I'm all for understanding the physics of the game, but we can just admit that Shesterkin, as one of the 15 or so best in the world at this, should probably have had a sub-70MPH shot from 50 feet out. Even with the minor deflection, it's a soft goal and one you expect Shesterkin to get. Move the guy 20 feet forward, and he fires from the dot? Sure, I buy your argument. Not from that far.

Hell, if you really want to get into the math of it - the average NHL shot is around 80mph, as you noted. That shot was not 80 - we both agree there. That shot was, conservatively, 70mph, from around 50 feet out (twice the radius of the circle, plus the hashes, plus the distance from the circle to the goalie). 70 miles per hour is 102.67 feet per second. That puck travels 50 feet in around .48 seconds, and Trouba deflects it very early, meaning that Shesterkin would have had nearly double the reaction time you say is required to make that save. 

It's a bad goal.

Just now, siddious said:

I was gonna say that would be amazing but he has a great track record in his first year/two

Let the Devils feel like shit is okay and not win a Stanley Cup. That's fine by me.

2 hours ago, Pete said:

The only thing that makes this like GG is they're both shit coaches.

All I know is I'm pulling for Gallant to come on and coach the Devils.

Just now, Pistol Pete said:

LOL…you don’t adjust to a deflection!  it hits you if you’re lucky.  And, it deflected so little that I don’t think Shesty even knew if deflected at first…

So you can't adjust to one, but it barely moved, which in theory would make it....more likely to be stopped because a puck that moves less is more likely to hit you if you're in position?

Look - they went toe to toe with their biggest rival for the EC today, and they both held their own, and then got handed a lesson about how hard you have to work to close out a playoff game against a great team - or to claw back into it.

Take the L. It's fine. We'll have some new faces on Saturday, and in two weeks when we see them again. Take the lesson that the Panthers gave you today, though, and shove it in their cat assholes in May.

1 minute ago, Bugg said:

This. Not gonna be able to make the fancy ass pass in the playoffs. This team is gonna be different around 3PM Friday. It has to be. 

This isn't a game that requires cataclysmic changes or speech. They played well against a great team, and they got beat. 

I'd go in with the same gameplan in two weeks and expect my team to work harder and keep it simpler if we're down in the third like that. 

That. Every shift. Zib Line.

Florida putting on an absolute clinic on the work rate you need to close out games. And you see the few Rangers who get it - Trocheck, Goodrow - doing the same.

Jagr for trivia?

Jesus, Bob. Can you find that 2020 form again?

I'm just here for Matt Rempe endangering more Panthers.

8 minutes ago, Pete said:

I don't think anyone is. Would I trade him fro Tuch? Yes. Vatrano? No.

If Kakko were the piece holding up Alex Tuch coming to NYC, I'd pack his bags myself.

And I'm a foolish true believer in the dude.

It's letting perfect be the enemy of good. It's the "we'd never lose if..." instead of the "uh, we're pretty fuckin great and should be thinking about adding one or two pieces to try for the Cup" mentality. And it's crazy. Every great team loses games sometimes.  The 90s Bulls lost games. The 1927 Yankees lost games. Hell, our beloved 94 Rangers lost fuckin 7 playoff games.  

Kakko isn't a great RW1 right now. He's a fuckin phenomenal RW3. Talent. To. Task. We don't need him to be the #2 pick. We need him to be the possession monster/forechecker/pain in the ass to get off the puck guy. And damnit, he can do that.

Get a RW so Vesey isn't on the first line and ideally get Mika going. If the price is right, get a C that isn't Brodzinski for the 3rd. And stop bitching about this team's relatively minor flaws.

8 minutes ago, Sharpshooter said:

They'd have to give up a good haul for Tuch, but I'd totally do it. Great fit.

Sabres are never letting him go. He's the rare player that wants to play in Buffalo.

41 minutes ago, Pete said:

But you're all over the place. What's your argument? 

 

Divest Kakko from the need for a top line right wing. They still need a third line right wing. Who is that guy? That's Kakko. 

 

If you're among the others who think someone is magically going to give us a top line right wing in exchange for a guy you spend so much time shitting on, well then good luck with that. 

 

Regarding Zib... He's tracking a career high in primary assists at 5v5 and Kreider is going to score 40.

 

It's like everybody is hell-bent on arguing how bad the team is yet the team isn't bad lol. 

I could write a doctoral thesis on the collective trauma around the perception of how bad this team is. It's like we have endless PTSD from not winning the Cup every year.

Trivia is Igor Ulanov. 

That left post is up there with Adam Henrique on the list of things that screw the Rangers.

Also, for those of you who also doubted Luigi when we signed him, I've got a phenomenal crow recipe. I've tried it.

Just now, BrooksBurner said:

Panarin, Trocheck, Laf....the only forwards who can generate offense 5v5. All on the same line, might have to spread that around looking forward.

Yeah, absolutely. Let's take apart a Ferrari, throw away the assembly instructions, and roll out two Chevy Novas.

IT'S A ME, VINCENZO

Hookers and blow for Trivia?

23 minutes ago, Phil said:

 

Right, but if you're going to, make sure you're buying them for pennies, not dollars. I'd rather spend a 5th for Kunin than a 1st (or even a 2nd) for Henrique or Wennberg or any of these JAGs.

It's flawed logic, but if we spent a 1st on a guy that meaningfully impacts us winning the Cup, and that guy was only really "worth" a third, I don't really care.

11 minutes ago, Pete said:

This is probably most likely and it does make sense, if only he didn't stink. 

I see your point, but there's a lack of true high end talent out there right now.  Fucks sake, we had a conversation about Kyle Okposo like five hours ago. Duclair is likely among the best reasonable options out there.

It says far more about the market than anything else, but....you can't play aces you don't have.