Fatfrancesa Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 They're not cap strapped and have yet to prove they will be. Well they are right now and barring an old fashioned hockey trade there is little room to upgrade anywhere the next two years. Totally fair that we don’t know what will happen three years from now. Not sure why people don’t think there won’t be more spooner, Namestnikov type contracts handed out though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Right, and Crosby makes 9 million and Artemi Panarin makes 11.5. This is a terrible argument. You seem like a smart guy, so I?ll assume it?s a wind up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Well they are right now and barring an old fashioned hockey trade there is little room to upgrade anywhere the next two years. Totally fair that we don’t know what will happen three years from now. Not sure why people don’t think there won’t be more spooner, Namestnikov type contracts handed out though. Where are you upgrading? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Well they are right now and barring an old fashioned hockey trade there is little room to upgrade anywhere the next two years. Totally fair that we don’t know what will happen three years from now. Not sure why people don’t think there won’t be more spooner, Namestnikov type contracts handed out though. In 2 years Staal Smith and Hank are off the books and the bulk of Shatty is too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tphilly5 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 I assume the cap will rise, but I'm using today dollars. If the cap goes up, salaries go up accordingly. Maybe signing Panarin and Trouba long term will be a bargain when salaries rise. Complaining about possible cap problems in 2022 because many of our young guys work out seems like something only habitual complainers would do. Too many things can happen so save the energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Maybe signing Panarin and Trouba long term will be a bargain when salaries rise. Complaining about possible cap problems in 2022 because many of our young guys work out seems like something only habitual complainers would do. Too many things can happen so save the energy.Also, my wallet is too small for my $100 bills, and my diamond shoes are too tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliveIn94 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Trouba and Panarin should be worth their cap hits. Emphasis on "should" as the years go by. Sent from my Z981 using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 So we agree that there's been no roster / salary structure posted that shows we're totally screwed down the line, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 I thought I demonstrated how we'll have about 25 million to pay for 14 players on a hypothetical roster, outside of the players listed, only three seasons from now. All I see in return is some intangible argument about TV deals and some statements about how that's a good problem to have. This has been categorized as hand wringing and I've been portrayed as a constant complainer. I demand satisfaction. Really, it's August and I'm bored waiting for October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 I thought I demonstrated how we'll have about 25 million to pay for 14 players on a hypothetical roster, outside of the players listed, only three seasons from now. All I see in return is some intangible argument about TV deals and some statements about how that's a good problem to have. This has been categorized as hand wringing and I've been portrayed as a constant complainer. I demand satisfaction. Really, it's August and I'm bored waiting for October.Yes, you're a hand wringer... Confirmed. But separately you never said what your cap was that you're estimating this $25 million for 14 players. August is probably the worst month of the year, TBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Yes, you're a hand wringer... Confirmed. But separately you never said what your cap was that you're estimating this $25 million for 14 players. August is probably the worst month of the year, TBH. Yes It is pretty awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Trouba and Panarin should be worth their cap hits. Emphasis on "should" as the years go by. Sent from my Z981 using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk And if one of them isn't, Seattle's a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatfrancesa Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Where are you upgrading? I don’t know maybe at center. You know that worthless position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Good point. It's almost a certainty that: 1. Chytil busts. 2. Andersson busts. 3. Due to the abundant wings, they won't move Kravtsov to C, which he's played before 4. They can't pull off a trade similar to Brass for Zib 5. They can't sign a college player to an ELC, like Hayes 6. Henrik Karlsson busts 7. Morgan Barron busts They truly are doomed with no way out other than to sign Getzlaf, Krejci or Backes to $15 million cap hits, and we won't have to room...Shit. We're fucked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBrowningPI Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 I think Morgan Barron could possibly be Superman. Sent from my SM-N900T using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 I don’t know maybe at center. You know that worthless position. Right, so if the following happens.... Good point. It's almost a certainty that: 1. Chytil busts. 2. Andersson busts. 3. Due to the abundant wings, they won't move Kravtsov to C, which he's played before 4. They can't pull off a trade similar to Brass for Zib 5. They can't sign a college player to an ELC, like Hayes 6. Henrik Karlsson busts 7. Morgan Barron busts They truly are doomed with no way out other than to sign Getzlaf, Krejci or Backes to $15 million cap hits, and we won't have to room...Shit. We're fucked. Then there is not cap issue because we don't have to pay any of those kids. They can instead make your dreams come true and sign Dzingel with the money instead of paying Chytil. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatfrancesa Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 I think Morgan Barron could possibly be Superman. Sent from my SM-N900T using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Right, so if the following happens.... Then there is not cap issue because we don't have to pay any of those kids. They can instead make your dreams come true and sign Dzingel with the money instead of paying Chytil. Seriously. I said sign dzingel as a stop gap for 2-3 years. He was never more than a pro to put in the lineup while the kids developed. But carry on if it makes you feel better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatfrancesa Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Anderson is Already a bust I thought? Chytil looks like a wing at this point. Kravtsov is now being moved to center, good thing he’s already proved his trade at wing. Why are they trading Zibanejad? Only reason I can think of is money when his contract is up. Karlsson and Barron are 50/50 at best if they even play in the nhl let alone be impact centers. So yeah you’re right they have plenty of centers and even more when they move players to center. None of which are even close to proving themselves nhl players other than Zibanejad, who you want to trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Who's trading Zibanejad? Sent from my SM-G960U using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatfrancesa Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 misread 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Anderson is Already a bust I thought? Chytil looks like a wing at this point. Kravtsov is now being moved to center, good thing he?s already proved his trade at wing. Why are they trading Zibanejad? Only reason I can think of is money when his contract is up. Karlsson and Barron are 50/50 at best if they even play in the nhl let alone be impact centers. So yeah you?re right they have plenty of centers and even more when they move players to center. None of which are even close to proving themselves nhl players other than Zibanejad, who you want to trade. If you've followed any of the prospects you'd know Kravtsov has already played center, as I already said. Karlsson is highly touted and Barron just had a monster year. Please post any recent information you have about them being 50/50 for the NHL? You've yet to post any support to anything you've said... About any prospects or any cap trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 If you've followed any of the prospects you'd know Kravtsov has already played center, as I already said. Karlsson is highly touted and Barron just had a monster year. Please post any recent information you have about them being 50/50 for the NHL? You've yet to post any support to anything you've said... About any prospects or any cap trouble. Karl Henriksson*. But yeah they have high expectations of him. Kravtsov’s time at center was limited to just the WJC. Moving him to center long-term could be a possibility given his frame and skill set. If there’s anyone in the organization who probably could move to center from wing it’d be him. He’d just need the time to really fine tune his positioning. He was a bit more hesitant driving offense from center at the WJC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Karl Henriksson*. But yeah they have high expectations of him. Kravtsov?s time at center was limited to just the WJC. Moving him to center long-term could be a possibility given his frame and skill set. If there?s anyone in the organization who probably could move to center from wing it?d be him. He?d just need the time to really fine tune his positioning. He was a bit more hesitant driving offense from center at the WJC.Whoops yes Henriksson. Krav was also playing injured in WJC, but the point is he has experience there. He's also like the 5th option to play there in 3 years when every other center prospect busts and we can't afford Getzlaf! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBrowningPI Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 The Superman thing was just because he looks like the part. Sent from my SM-N900T using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 The player I’m most curious about is Chytil. Whether or not he stays at center and how he develops over the next 2 seasons is huge for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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