Pete Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Again. Name me 31 Dmen who are better. Name 20 who are better... This "not a #1 dman" thing is beyond old. By what criteria are you basing this off of?The "name me 31 BETTER d men" is old. You're over simplifying a complex conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 You're giving Trouba 20% more money than Morgan Reilly, who is 10 times the player.This is actually a great way to look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBrowningPI Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Alrighty. Well it's done and now the more interesting moves should follow in short order. Sent from my SM-N900T using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyb Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 So happy this got done. I?ll read everything later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 The "name me 31 BETTER d men" is old. You're over simplifying a complex conversation. And so are you by comparing a contract from 2016 to one in 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 This is actually a great way to look at it. Not really. Morgan Reilly signed his contract out of his ELC, and it takes him to free agency. He had no arb rights, no inflated QO, no 50 point seasons, nothing to back that deal up. This is like Trouba's fourth or fifth contract, second or third time in arb, a higher QO, at least 1 50 point season, etc. FWIW, Morgan Reilly is going to be the highest paid defender in the NHL when he's off that deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Not a fan of the $8 million a year. My question is why'd this take so long if that's the number it is? I would have thought that if they were willing to give him 7/56 then this should have been done a couple minutes after the trade. Sent from my SM-G950U using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 You're giving Trouba 20% more money than Morgan Reilly, who is 10 times the player. This is actually a great way to look at it. I mean Rielly signed 3 years ago for 7% of the cap. He had just turned 22 and will be a UFA at 28. Rangers have Trouba at 9.82% of the cap locked up until age 32. What will Rielly be making for ages 28 through 32? And that contract will last until he is 35. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skunkman Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 So this d-man in his prime that we signed is better than the D-man in his prime that we traded away because we were too scared to resign him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 That's a million too much, but atleast he is locked up long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 That's a million too much, but atleast he is locked up long term. Overpaid, hopefully it works out. Certainly top dollar imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 19, 2019 Author Share Posted July 19, 2019 Why would you give up two good assets, only to buy out and arb year and STILL pay top bean *and* hand out a NMC too. I don't get it. I don't see much value here. This isn't the guy I'm building a defense around, and at that price, that's exactly the case. Why not bridge him? To what? He's a year away from free agency. They just bought six years. If you don't think Jacob Trouba was getting $8 million minimum on the open market next summer, you're just wrong. He'd probably flirt with $10 million given percentage of cap + rising revenue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 19, 2019 Author Share Posted July 19, 2019 You're giving Trouba 20% more money than Morgan Reilly, who is 10 times the player. Who signed in 2016, at the age of 22, not 25, and accounted for 7% of the cap at the time. The Leafs also bought just one year of UFA from him. Not six. They don't compare. You guys are looking at players in a vacuum, which they don't exist in. Markets shift every summer. I mean Rielly signed 3 years ago for 7% of the cap. He had just turned 22 and will be a UFA at 28. Rangers have Trouba at 9.82% of the cap locked up until age 32. What will Rielly be making for ages 28 through 32? And that contract will last until he is 35. Bingo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 19, 2019 Author Share Posted July 19, 2019 So this d-man in his prime that we signed is better than the D-man in his prime that we traded away because we were too scared to resign him? Pionk is to Trouba as a bicycle is to a Ford F150. Just because it has wheels doesn't make it a comparable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Pionk is to Trouba as a bicycle is to a Ford F150. Just because it has wheels doesn't make it a comparable. McDonagh lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatfrancesa Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Pionk is to Trouba as a bicycle is to a Ford F150. Just because it has wheels doesn't make it a comparable. I think he’s referring to McDonough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 So this d-man in his prime that we signed is better than the D-man in his prime that we traded away because we were too scared to resign him? Trouba is 5 years younger and right handed (which seeems harder to find), although you make a good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatfrancesa Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Trouba is 5 years younger and right handed (which seeems harder to find), although you make a good point. It’s a very good point and kind of goes to whoever is saying they don’t have a plan. It’s kind of like throw shit at a wall and see what sticks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 It?s a very good point and kind of goes to whoever is saying they don?t have a plan. It?s kind of like throw shit at a wall and see what sticks Though I can't bring myself to believe that, that is how it looks. "Hey, these two premium guys are available, let's shoe horn them in, re-build over". I'll reserve judgement until we see what happens in regards to making space. If it's trading more young, controllable pieces away, like Deangelo, I'll start to sour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Trouba is 5 years younger and right handed (which seeems harder to find), although you make a good point. No. Timing, age, and injury history makes it not a good point at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Though I can't bring myself to believe that, that is how it looks. "Hey, these two premium guys are available, let's shoe horn them in, re-build over". I'll reserve judgement until we see what happens in regards to making space. If it's trading more young, controllable pieces away, like Deangelo, I'll start to sour. DeAngelo is a terrible defender in his own zone who has a knack for offense. He also lived in the doghouse because of maturity level. I wouldn't lose sleep if he's an odd man out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 You're giving Trouba 20% more money than Morgan Reilly, who is 10 times the player. Reilly signed his contract in 2016 with a career high 36 points? Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Though I can't bring myself to believe that, that is how it looks. "Hey, these two premium guys are available, let's shoe horn them in, re-build over". I'll reserve judgement until we see what happens in regards to making space. If it's trading more young, controllable pieces away, like Deangelo, I'll start to sour. You?re concerned over DelZotto 2.0? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 The reilly and Mcdonagh comparisons doesnt make sense at all. Im not sure what unrealistic hopes you have if you dont like this. Both the trade to aquire him (got rid of Pionk ffs) and the contract (he would get atleast 9 mill as a ufa, probably more) and he?s signed years 25-32. Could have saved 0,5m, but its still a really solid contract. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 I guess I just don't see the great value at that number. I guess he'll have to show me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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