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    2017-2018 ECQF | Tampa Bay Lightning (A1) v. New Jersey Devils (C2)




    EASTERN CONFERENCE
    QUARTER FINALS






    SERIES SCHEDULE:




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    Team Leaders:

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    TOI/G (D): N/A
    TOI/G (F): N/A


    Lineup:^

    J.T. Miller / Steven Stamkos C / Nikita Kucherov
    Ondrej Palat / Brayden Point / Tyler Johnson
    Yanni Gourde / Anthony Cirelli / Alex Killorn
    Chris Kunitz / Cerdic Paquette / Ryan Callahan A

    Victor Hedman / Dan Girardi
    Ryan McDonagh / Anton Stralman
    Braydon Coburn / Mikhail Sergachev

    Andrei Vasilevskiy
    Louis Domingue



    Cory Conacher
    Braydon Coburn
    Slater Koekkoek
    Andrej Sustr

    ^ Subject to change


    Injuries, Suspensions, Misc:

    F Adam Erne [IR] — Lower-body injury; Out indefinitely

    D Jake Dotchin [DTD] — Illness








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    Lineup:^

    Taylor Hall A / Nico Hischier / Kyle Palmieri A
    Michael Grabner / Pavel Zacha / Patrick Maroon
    Blake Coleman / Travis Zajac / Stefan Noesen
    Miles Wood / Brian Boyle A / Jesper Bratt

    Andy Greene C / Sami Vatanen
    John Moore / Ben Lovejoy
    Will Butcher / Mirco Mueller

    Keith Kinkaid
    Corey Schneider



    Damon Severson
    Dalton Prout

    ^ Subject to change


    Injuries, Suspensions, Misc:

    F Marcus Johansson [IR] — Concussion; Could return for playoffs





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    I could see NJ stealing a game at home. Maybe fending off a sweep. But that's about it
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlairBettsBlocksEverything View Post
    I could see NJ stealing a game at home. Maybe fending off a sweep. But that's about it
    Nah, Devils got this. As much as I understand the pick situation, and realize some of our ex-players and captains are on that team, I still can't fucking stand them, idk why.
    Fuck TBL. Devils in 6.
    LGR!

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    I couldn't possibly root for the Devils to win even a single game. Fuck them into oblivion. Bolts in 5.


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    Ugh, I know I know. I'm kind of torn, cause yeah, I hate rooting for the Devils, but I don't feel like that's a rivalry that's been in the forefront lately, whereas the Bolts have left a sting more recently (2015). IDK.
    I also really like the Taylor Hall story and don't give a shit about rooting for our guys in different uniforms (but that's also not true cause I wanna see a healthy Rick Nash go full fucking beast mode in BOS), so IDK.
    Fuck the Bolts.
    LGR!

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    I'm fine with fuck the Bolts. In the next round. For now I only want to bathe in Devils tears.


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    Brian Boyle > Callahan, Stralman, Miller, McDonagh
    LGR!

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    Another 1st round draft pick for us if the Lightning win the cup > anything to do with anything else between the Devils and Lightning and whichever players play for either team

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaveByRichter35 View Post
    Another 1st round draft pick for us if the Lightning win the cup > anything to do with anything else between the Devils and Lightning and whichever players play for either team
    Yes, followed by Stamkos and Hedman returning to their injury proneness next year and the Bolts missing the playoffs...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Long live the King View Post
    Yes, followed by Stamkos and Hedman returning to their injury proneness next year and the Bolts missing the playoffs...
    Exactly

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    Yeah yeah, I know how the picks work.
    LGR!

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    Hall and BGBB will steal a game or two, but the Devils run will end.

    Need Tampa to win the Cup so the Rangers can get that 1st!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Long live the King View Post
    Yes, followed by Stamkos and Hedman returning to their injury proneness next year and the Bolts missing the playoffs...
    Here's the other side of it though.

    If they win the cup this year, we get the 30th this year. But if they don't that pick drops to mid-20s' I believe, depending on which teams end up in the final 4 (does it still work that way? conference final teams pick last 4)

    so are we better off getting a bit higher of a pick this year and a 2nd rounder next year (potentially still another first rounder if they win the cup) or do we pick 30 this year and hope like hell they suck next year (they probably won't so regardless it's still probably another late first)
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlairBettsBlocksEverything View Post
    Here's the other side of it though.

    If they win the cup this year, we get the 30th this year. But if they don't that pick drops to mid-20s' I believe, depending on which teams end up in the final 4 (does it still work that way? conference final teams pick last 4)

    so are we better off getting a bit higher of a pick this year and a 2nd rounder next year (potentially still another first rounder if they win the cup) or do we pick 30 this year and hope like hell they suck next year (they probably won't so regardless it's still probably another late first)
    So best case {extremely unlikely, requires Nashville, Winnipeg, and Tampa all to lose in the first round} we'd pick 21st this year. More likely Tamp makes it to at least the 2nd round, and we'd be looking, at best at the 25th to 27th pick.

    So we have about a 5 spot difference for this year in the 26th pick versus 31st pick. The big difference is them winning the cup because that gives next year's pick a 31 spot difference. 2nd rounder to a 1st.

    Now come's the "fantasy" part. If they win the cup next year, we get 2019 pick 31 instead of 62; however, if they win the cup this year there is a chance they shit the bed next year (remember they failed to make the playoffs last year without Stamkos) and the first rounder is now in the 2019 lottery and top 15 minimum. I'll trade those 5 spots this year for next year's "fantasy" any day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phillyb™ View Post
    Brian Boyle > Callahan, Stralman, Miller, McDonagh
    Not in that fuckin' jersey.
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    There is no lottery protection or some bs with the conditional 1st? It is the 2019 Tampa's 1st round pick even if they would win the lottery? If they win the cup this year obviously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phillyb™ View Post
    Brian Boyle > Callahan, Stralman, Miller, McDonagh
    Because he is a man of character! Before his fight against cancer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc View Post
    There is no lottery protection or some bs with the conditional 1st? It is the 2019 Tampa's 1st round pick even if they would win the lottery? If they win the cup this year obviously.
    Dunno. CapFriendly has this on it:

    *Condition: 2nd round pick becomes a 1st if Tampa wins the Stanley Cup in 2017/18 or 2018/19.
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    Hmm, I guess they trusted themself so much they felt it was no need for a lottery protection.

    Fun fact: Devils swept the regular season series against Tampa. This could be closer then most people think.

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    In a perfect world, Tampa wins the cup and then completely shits the bed next season, wins the draft lottery and we get the first overall pick. Unless that pick is lottery protected
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