Cash or Czech Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 He plans on going back which is a good thing. Another year and then some time in HFD would make sense given timeline of current D. Two years until Hartford, no? He's a January birthday so he isn't eligible when he's 19, and he's only 18 right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphinity 2.0 Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Interesting story about Day's personal life http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/juniors/ohl-steelheads-exceptional-player-sean-day-opens-up-about-life-off-the-ice/ It was a simple story: the adoration of a big brother by a little brother. In Sean Day’s case, it was his older brother Scott, who he wanted to emulate growing up in Rochester, Mich. “I remember watching my brother, Scott, play, and ever since then I wanted to be a hockey player,” said Day. “He was my role model growing up. He’s the reason I wear No. 4.” That simple story took a tragic turn in late October 2014. Scott was driving his pickup truck when it slammed into another vehicle just four miles from his family’s home, killing a 62-year-old woman. The 23-year-old was charged by police, who found his blood-alcohol reading was twice the legal limit. Last summer, after pleading no contest, he was sentenced to prison for no less than 57 months and no more than 15 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 It's not about being a sure fire NHLer. It's about quickest path to the NHL. By most accounts he's a 5 year project. Who says he's a 5-year project? For all the physical talent he has, he could be up in 2. On the flip side, a 20 year old you draft in the third has just as good a shot of taking 5 years, or never making it at all, as Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Who says he's a 5-year project? For all the physical talent he has, he could be up in 2. On the flip side, a 20 year old you draft in the third has just as good a shot of taking 5 years, or never making it at all, as Day. A lot of write ups have him 5 years out. I can look for them later. I'm not going to argue who "could" make the NHL when (are there even 20 year Olds in the draft?) That's a waste of time. I think this team could have made a better choice (preferably a forward) with their top pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphinity 2.0 Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 I'd like to see those articles too. Haven't been able to find them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 A lot of write ups have him 5 years out. I can look for them later. I'm not going to argue who "could" make the NHL when (are there even 20 year Olds in the draft?) That's a waste of time. I think this team could have made a better choice (preferably a forward) with their top pick. I'd like to see those articles too. Haven't been able to find them. I saw a few on draft day in my Twitter feed, can't go searching now. But even if I'm wrong about that, if I misread, whatever... Look at Brady Skjei...Drafted in 2012 and first full season will be 2016-2017. Duclair was drafted in 2013 and his first full season was 2015-2016. Basically I'd have went with a forward (because it's not like we don't need help there, either), because defensemen just take longer to mature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 He's only 18 years old, I believe that it will take at least 4-5 years to make the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphinity 2.0 Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 That's definitely known, but 5 years development time is basically the max a prospect can go before he becomes nothingness - which says a lot about how you feel about Day. Look, there's no doubt he's a project, but I'd still like to see the reasoning why people think he's a 5 year project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 I saw a few on draft day in my Twitter feed, can't go searching now. But even if I'm wrong about that, if I misread, whatever... Look at Brady Skjei...Drafted in 2012 and first full season will be 2016-2017. Duclair was drafted in 2013 and his first full season was 2015-2016. Basically I'd have went with a forward (because it's not like we don't need help there, either), because defensemen just take longer to mature. This. It's not uncommon for a defenseman to take until 23 to enter the league. In fact, it's probably more the norm outside of the first round. There were 21 rookie defensemen this season who played more than 30 games. Only 7 of them were under 23. One played for St. Louis (Jake McCabe, 44th overall, 22 years old). The other 6 played for Carolina (3), Buffalo (1), Edmonton (1) and Colorado (1). So these are all younger defensemen playing for non-competitive teams. http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?reportType=season&report=bios&season=20152016&gameType=2&sort=playerBirthDate&aggregate=0&status=r&filter=gamesPlayed,gte,30&pos=D The question is, given our prospect pool being so bleak, does it make sense to draft anyone that won't likely be available for 4-5 years? I think it's a balance. To really restock the system, it's going to take a careful balance. A lot depends on the organization's short term outlook. If they're going to retool and keep retooling, we need picks with shorter development cycles to feed into that. If we are really going to go for more of a rebuild, even if it's going to be a quieter one like we did from 2005+, longer term prospects with higher upside is probably OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 I can see him being 3-4 seasons away. Not sure if 5 is really the number at all. It's not like he as many aspects of his game that are in need of development. It's whether or not he actually gets his shit together that determines when he comes in. If he stays on track with maintaining the right level of fitness and rounding out his offensive game, he could potentially be 2.5-3 seasons away. If he falls back into a rut who knows. Maybe that's where you start getting to 5 years if he ever makes it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphinity 2.0 Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 To me, you look at a guy like Day with the size, the speed, the shot, the passing ability but he just can't put it all together consistently. I think he gets a shot at the big show earlier for that reason. He's not some kid who needs to grow into his body or anything like that. He's not a monster like McIlrath who needs to learn how to skate. He just needs to learn how to play consistent, smart hockey and with the proper mentoring, I'd bet he can get there sooner rather than later. Obviously, there's a chance that he wont, but that's a given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddynyc Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 The best comparison might be to Ryan Graves selected on the 4th round who spent 2 years in juniors after he was drafted and completed his 1st year in Hartford. I would imagine the same path for Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 This. It's not uncommon for a defenseman to take until 23 to enter the league. In fact, it's probably more the norm outside of the first round. There were 21 rookie defensemen this season who played more than 30 games. Only 7 of them were under 23. One played for St. Louis (Jake McCabe, 44th overall, 22 years old). The other 6 played for Carolina (3), Buffalo (1), Edmonton (1) and Colorado (1). So these are all younger defensemen playing for non-competitive teams. http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?reportType=season&report=bios&season=20152016&gameType=2&sort=playerBirthDate&aggregate=0&status=r&filter=gamesPlayed,gte,30&pos=D . Good point, but that list doesn't account for guys playing in the AHL, like Skjei, who are ready but being held down due to organizational depth, or guys who are left in the A simply to get more minutes but could easily play in the 5/6 role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 I think with the prospects we have in the pro ranks, mainly Skjei and Graves, we can allow Day to develop for 3-4 years before we need him or more importantly have an actual roster spot for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 This. It's not uncommon for a defenseman to take until 23 to enter the league. In fact, it's probably more the norm outside of the first round. There were 21 rookie defensemen this season who played more than 30 games. Only 7 of them were under 23. One played for St. Louis (Jake McCabe, 44th overall, 22 years old). The other 6 played for Carolina (3), Buffalo (1), Edmonton (1) and Colorado (1). So these are all younger defensemen playing for non-competitive teams. http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?reportType=season&report=bios&season=20152016&gameType=2&sort=playerBirthDate&aggregate=0&status=r&filter=gamesPlayed,gte,30&pos=D The question is, given our prospect pool being so bleak, does it make sense to draft anyone that won't likely be available for 4-5 years? I think it's a balance. To really restock the system, it's going to take a careful balance. A lot depends on the organization's short term outlook. If they're going to retool and keep retooling, we need picks with shorter development cycles to feed into that. If we are really going to go for more of a rebuild, even if it's going to be a quieter one like we did from 2005+, longer term prospects with higher upside is probably OK. This is basically my thinking. I think Day has upside, I'm just leery of how long it'll take to be realized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 $10 says this guy is out of hockey in within 5 years. Any takers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Respecttheblue Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 [/url] Link http://thehockeywriters.com/2016-nhl-draft-dont-sleep-on-sean-day However, what is not shown on the rankings provided above is just how much Day’s game has in fact progressed over his third season with the Steelheads. Although his offensive totals have dropped slightly, it is his impeccable defensive game which will be turning heads when he reaches the NHL level. The one major area which Day has worked on throughout his time in the OHL is his defense, and it has definitely paid off. In his own zone, Day is seemingly impassable. Combining his elite skating abilities and strength allows Day to match attacking players’ speed, while using his size to force players to the outside. In most cases, a quick, accurate stick knocks the puck off of opponents sticks before they have the opportunity to generate offensive opportunities. Further, when it comes to board play, Day once again utilizes his power to pin opponents to the boards with ease, before once again using his stick to either knock the puck away, or in numerous cases, strip players of the puck before either making a crisp outlet pass or skating the puck out of his zone. That one's quite encouraging. The same article says. As previously mentioned, various hockey scouts and services have been incredibly rough on Day, likely over-exaggerating their findings based on the simple fact that he was granted exceptional status. And then you had two rankings that were high-ish NHL Central Scouting (43rd) TSN’s Bob McKenzie (46th) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Lothbrok Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 $10 says this guy is out of hockey in within 5 years. Any takers? Hell no, that's basically free money for you. I'd rather give it to Tanner Glass as a bonus for his extra effort this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Respecttheblue Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Gotta run to work, late, but in case this interview was not up already Liking this kid more and more. http://www.blueshirtsunited.com/video/getting-know-sean-day-nhl-draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphinity 2.0 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 :tweet: @JeffMarek Big OHL Trade - Sean Day (NYR) moved from the Mississauga Steelheads to the Windsor Spitfires pending approval. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 19, 2016 Author Share Posted October 19, 2016 Spitfires are hosting the Memorial Cup this year, aren't they? Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 After putting up 5 points in 5 games before being traded, Day has gone 1-3-4 in 5 games with the Spitfires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoMinutesForNothing Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Hat trick with 10 shots on goal. Scored the only 3 goals for his team in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Sometimes guys just start to "get it" all at once, and if this is true for Day - in terms of maturing and putting in the work - we could see him with the Rangers sooner than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myusername Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 10 shots for a d-man? Jeez Wonder how his defensive game has been Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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