Br4d Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 (edited) 43 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said: https://theathletic.com/5467049/2024/05/03/2024-nhl-playoff-preview-new-york-rangers-vs-carolina-hurricanes Dom’s model has it at 66-34 odds in favor of the Canes. That’s the biggest gap I’ve seen. I don’t think that’s crediting the goalie difference enough I believe the media perception of the matchup is extremely flawed. It does not give the Rangers any credit for the changes in the team over the last few months and frankly the Hurricanes are little bitches and likely to hate the Rempinator anyway. My perception of the matchup is that it rides on the Bread Line and I think those guys are going to come out shooting this round. Just adding: if these were the Rangers playing Wheeler, Bonino and Pitlick the perception would be accurate. Those guys aren't around any more and the guys who replaced them matchup much better against the 'Canes speed and hustle. Edited May 4 by Br4d 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Let's also remember, Guentzel doesn't have Crosby next to him like he did all those other times he killed the Rangers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 27 minutes ago, SaveByRichter35 said: Let's also remember, Guentzel doesn't have Crosby next to him like he did all those other times he killed the Rangers. I was talking about the Crosby aspect at the deadline but he has 29 points in 22 games with the Canes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 2 minutes ago, SaveByRichter35 said: Let's also remember, Guentzel doesn't have Crosby next to him like he did all those other times he killed the Rangers. I was thinking this too, and especially at the deadline I questioned what his impact would be away from Crosby. 25 points in 17 games for the Canes has probably disspelled any notion he was just riding coattails. Unfortunately he has fit the Canes like a glove and gotta respect what he’s done for them. The Guentzel-Aho line is excellent, and I think the Rangers should be hoping to get the KZ line out there for them as much as possible. They are really good at playing even or a little better, and canceling out the Canes’ top line should be a top priority. KZ line is also plenty talented enough to make them pay if they are overaggressive and make a mistake. I think the Panarin or Goodrow lines would be a death sentence matchup wise, probably resulting in the puck being in their own end for full shifts. Cuylle-Wennberg-Kakko would probably find a way to hang on. That’d be a major win if that line could play a contain/shutdown role against their top line. The Canes will probably counter with the Staal line against Panarin. That’s probably going to roughly cancel out. Home ice / last change is a nice advantage to have. The Panarin line will need to get some favorable matchups. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 13 minutes ago, Vodka Drunkenski said: I was talking about the Crosby aspect at the deadline but he has 29 points in 22 games with the Canes 12 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said: I was thinking this too, and especially at the deadline I questioned what his impact would be away from Crosby. 25 points in 17 games for the Canes has probably disspelled any notion he was just riding coattails. Unfortunately he has fit the Canes like a glove and gotta respect what he’s done for them. The Guentzel-Aho line is excellent, and I think the Rangers should be hoping to get the KZ line out there for them as much as possible. They are really good at playing even or a little better, and canceling out the Canes’ top line should be a top priority. KZ line is also plenty talented enough to make them pay if they are overaggressive and make a mistake. I think the Panarin or Goodrow lines would be a death sentence matchup wise, probably resulting in the puck being in their own end for full shifts. Cuylle-Wennberg-Kakko would probably find a way to hang on. That’d be a major win if that line could play a contain/shutdown role against their top line. The Canes will probably counter with the Staal line against Panarin. That’s probably going to roughly cancel out. Home ice / last change is a nice advantage to have. The Panarin line will need to get some favorable matchups. But none of those games were played against the Rangers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Sorry, one game was. A 1-0 win. So, point remains until it doesn't lolololol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 1 hour ago, Br4d said: I believe the media perception of the matchup is extremely flawed. It does not give the Rangers any credit for the changes in the team over the last few months and frankly the Hurricanes are little bitches and likely to hate the Rempinator anyway. My perception of the matchup is that it rides on the Bread Line and I think those guys are going to come out shooting this round. Just adding: if these were the Rangers playing Wheeler, Bonino and Pitlick the perception would be accurate. Those guys aren't around any more and the guys who replaced them matchup much better against the 'Canes speed and hustle. I don’t really agree. Even with a slightly better outlook 5v5 since the deadline, the Rangers are still completely outclassed analytically here. Models that favor 5v5 as much as Dom’s does are going to reflect that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dem Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 12 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said: I don’t really agree. Even with a slightly better outlook 5v5 since the deadline, the Rangers are still completely outclassed analytically here. Models that favor 5v5 as much as Dom’s does are going to reflect that. Glad the Rangers aren't putting analytics on the ice in this case lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 1 hour ago, Br4d said: I think Rempe is going to be in the lineup as long as he is available. Laviolette is used to having a pounder in the playoffs. Call it Tom Wilson Syndrome. Laviolette won a cup with it a few years ago. Lavy wasn’t the Caps coach when they won the Cup. Lavy won his Cup in 2005-2006 with Carolina. Tom Wilson was 12. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Br4d Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 2 minutes ago, RangersIn7 said: Lavy wasn’t the Caps coach when they won the Cup. Lavy won his Cup in 2005-2006 with Carolina. Tom Wilson was 12. But he was big even back then. I rest my case. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 The Hurricanes are literally en route to NYC for a playoff series that starts in just over 24 hours. We STILL don’t have a schedule for this series. This is lazy, pathetic and just utterly ridiculous on the NHL’s part. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontonyr Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 So rempe playing game one or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 4 minutes ago, torontonyr said: So rempe playing game one or what? Don't know yet, but it looks like he will. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 14 minutes ago, Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc said: Don't know yet, but it looks like he will. I like it. Go with what got you the wins in round 1. We won’t out skate Carolina be we sure as shit can out hit them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 15 minutes ago, Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc said: Don't know yet, but it looks like he will. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanesFanRandy Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Have changed my line of thinking here. Canes handle this series pretty easily dealing the Rangers a pretty big setback. You are still a couple years away. This is our year! Canes in 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 3 minutes ago, CanesFanRandy said: Have changed my line of thinking here. Canes handle this series pretty easily dealing the Rangers a pretty big setback. You are still a couple years away. This is our year! Canes in 6 You by game 3 when the Canes just can’t score on Igor again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontonyr Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 38 minutes ago, Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc said: Don't know yet, but it looks like he will. Good. I don't buy into the "we need to adjust to be more skilled" fire vs fire narrative. If we can hammer their D(Angelo) why give up that advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dem Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 16 minutes ago, CanesFanRandy said: Have changed my line of thinking here. Canes handle this series pretty easily dealing the Rangers a pretty big setback. You are still a couple years away. This is our year! Canes in 6 Oh shit, really? Guess I'll skip it then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 25 minutes ago, CanesFanRandy said: Have changed my line of thinking here. Canes handle this series pretty easily dealing the Rangers a pretty big setback. You are still a couple years away. This is our year! Canes in 6 All 7 of the canes fans must be so hyped right now 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanesFanRandy Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 40 minutes ago, siddious said: All 7 of the canes fans must be so hyped right now LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 The year….uncanny 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 49 minutes ago, siddious said: All 7 of the canes fans must be so hyped right now No. They’re googling as much about hockey as they possibly could so it could seem like they’re not hopping on the bandwagon just for the playoffs. Either that, or crying about having to have PNC overrun with Ranger fans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 17 minutes ago, RichieNextel305 said: No. They’re googling as much about hockey as they possibly could so it could seem like they’re not hopping on the bandwagon just for the playoffs. Either that, or crying about having to have PNC overrun with Ranger fans. They’re not selling to anyone outside of the Carolina’s. Imagine if MSG did that lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanesFanRandy Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 43 minutes ago, siddious said: They’re not selling to anyone outside of the Carolina’s. Imagine if MSG did that lol Don’t worry. The 10’s of thousands of you that are already here will be free to gobble them up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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