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siddious Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Rw/c would be a nice change from all the LW’s they stock pile usually 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 5 minutes ago, siddious said: Rw/c would be a nice change from all the LW’s they stock pile usually That makes him ineligible to sign here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 5 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said: That makes him ineligible to sign here nah he can just switch wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 8 minutes ago, LindG1000 said: nah he can just switch wings. Ahh the other rangers classic move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 This would be a phenomenal get but I won't pretend it will happen. Probably Boston? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Hey, Vesey was a Hobey Baker winner and we signed him. Look at him now!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slobberknocker Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 6'1" 200 is nice. to bad he's a masshole. would think the bruins are where he goes. cue the pic of him at 9 years old sleeping in B's pajamas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 19 Author Share Posted March 19 9 minutes ago, Slobberknocker said: 6'1" 200 is nice. to bad he's a masshole. would think the bruins are where he goes. cue the pic of him at 9 years old sleeping in B's pajamas. https://hobeybaker.com/2014/08/22/rangers-sign-2014-hobey-finalist-kevin-hayes/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 13 minutes ago, Phil said: https://hobeybaker.com/2014/08/22/rangers-sign-2014-hobey-finalist-kevin-hayes/ Different situation. There was a lack of opportunity there, Rangers were thin at C. Now, Bruins need C and RW, especially if they let DeBrusk go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 19 Author Share Posted March 19 41 minutes ago, Pete said: Different situation. There was a lack of opportunity there, Rangers were thin at C. Now, Bruins need C and RW, especially if they let DeBrusk go. No, I get that. The situations are never going to be perfectly analagous. I was just pointing out that just because he's from the area doesn't mean he's going to sign with his hometown team. Jimmy Vesey is also a Massachusetts kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Phil said: No, I get that. The situations are never going to be perfectly analagous. I was just pointing out that just because he's from the area doesn't mean he's going to sign with his hometown team. Jimmy Vesey is also a Massachusetts kid. I Don't really care if they get him. He'll likely just follow along with Haggerty, Gilroy, and other busts they grabbed out of the NCAA, Vesey notwithstanding but it took him a while and trips to three other organizations to become a viable NHL player. Edited March 19 by Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 19 Author Share Posted March 19 Maybe/probably. Most UDFA go the route of Haggerty, not Vesey or Hayes, but it can't hurt to try. All I'm saying is don't assume the worst simply because he didn't grow up rooting for the Rangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 6 hours ago, Pete said: I Don't really care if they get him. He'll likely just follow along with Haggerty, Gilroy, and other busts they grabbed out of the NCAA, Vesey notwithstanding but it took him a while and trips to three other organizations to become a viable NHL player. In fairness to Vesey, he did have 16, 17, and 17 goals in his first 3 years in the league. I think he just over valued himself a bit and had a mushy middle before returning here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 8 minutes ago, Keirik said: In fairness to Vesey, he did have 16, 17, and 17 goals in his first 3 years in the league. I think he just over valued himself a bit and had a mushy middle before returning here. Guy went from winning the hobey baker and probably always being the best guy on any team he played on to being a ulitity player. theres an adjustment period for sure. I never thought he was bad here in the first place. Sometimes being good just means you get an invite to the show.. you gotta find your place. i remember that clip of Sheldon Keefe giving him shit on the HBO 24/7 series or whatever it was called and honestly I think it goes a long way to explain why the leafs have never won anything worth mentioning. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 5 hours ago, Keirik said: In fairness to Vesey, he did have 16, 17, and 17 goals in his first 3 years in the league. I think he just over valued himself a bit and had a mushy middle before returning here. -13 -18 -6 Despite averaging around 55% O-Zone starts and was always on the wrong side of shot share. Like I said, took him awhile to become a viable NHL player. It wasn't just Toronto that chucked him. He couldn't even hang with shit teams (at the time) like Buffalo and Vancouver, or NJ for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Yeah, I think Vesey has become a nice story in his second go around here. He's kind of found his niche over the years, and now we know what to expect from him now that the Hobey Baker hype is long, long gone. He played well enough to get a nice bag for himself and another year on top of this one. Hopefully he's still good next season. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 5 hours ago, Pete said: -13 -18 -6 Despite averaging around 55% O-Zone starts and was always on the wrong side of shot share. Like I said, took him awhile to become a viable NHL player. It wasn't just Toronto that chucked him. He couldn't even hang with shit teams (at the time) like Buffalo and Vancouver, or NJ for that matter. Not every NHLer is going to be outstanding on both sides of the puck. The point was, if you are able to score 15+ goals in this league for three straight years, you're a "viable NHLer" in my book. Vesey was on the team his first go around when the Rangers tore it down. Hell, one of the 3 years ADA led the team in +/-. I don't take too much stock in that. like I said, started off as a decent NHLer straight from college, then had a rough middle before resurecti g his career here for round two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Keirik said: Not every NHLer is going to be outstanding on both sides of the puck. The point was, if you are able to score 15+ goals in this league for three straight years, you're a "viable NHLer" in my book. Vesey was on the team his first go around when the Rangers tore it down. Hell, one of the 3 years ADA led the team in +/-. I don't take too much stock in that. like I said, started off as a decent NHLer straight from college, then had a rough middle before resurecti g his career here for round two. I also said "Vesey notwithstanding" but you chose to focus on the fact that I said he bounced around a lot before finding an actual role. So I'm not sure what you're arguing. Point is these guys who are the top college UFAs aren't always Hayes. Edited March 20 by Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 30 minutes ago, Pete said: I also said "Vesey notwithstanding" but you chose to focus on the fact that I said he bounced around a lot before finding an actual role. So I'm not sure what you're arguing. Point is these guys who are the top college UFAs aren't always Hayes. I'm not focusing on anything except that you said it took him a while to become a viable NHLer. Not everything is an attack. I even said "in fairness" to lighten the mood and just pointed out that he did score 50 goals in his first 3 years. Iid say thats oretty viable in my opinion. t's not a super serious thing. Just wanted to give Vesey a bit of credit for his early career. We all agree that the middle of his career was pretty crap. His first three years were pretty decent from an offensive output. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 5 minutes ago, Keirik said: I'm not focusing on anything except that you said it took him a while to become a viable NHLer. Yes, that's exactly what I just said. Quote I also said "Vesey notwithstanding" but you chose to focus on the fact that I said he bounced around a lot before finding an actual role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 21 minutes ago, Pete said: Yes, that's exactly what I just said. Well obviously I read "it took him a while to become a viable NHLer" differently. I figured 50 goals and 90 points in his first 3 season was pretty viable especially on a mostly rebuilding team. Not elite, not upper tier, but certainly earning a place as a regular NHLer. The middle of his career was a regression from that. Now is more of a return to that but on a better team and not being asked to do more than his ceiling was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BrooksBurner Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 (edited) Why would the Bruins not be in on him? Strange Edited April 2 by BrooksBurner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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