Cash or Czech Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 (edited) Edited June 15, 2023 by Cash or Czech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jsm7302 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 They still pursuing Meier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlairBettsBlocksEverything Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 in a few years as the cap goes up significantly this will end up looking like a bargain. was REALLY hoping the devils just crumbled and everyone of their FA's left though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 If they get a goalie like a Hellebucyk, watch out. They are right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 28 minutes ago, Sharpshooter said: If they get a goalie like a Hellebucyk, watch out. They are right there. You mean the same guy who just told the Jets he's not interested in re-signing? Yeah, they're getting him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Sharpshooter said: If they get a goalie like a Hellebucyk, watch out. They are right there. I hope they do. It’s continually proven out that a top goalie isn’t needed in the playoffs, just a hot one, and a top goalie can actually be a detriment based on cap hit. Hellebuyck probably isn’t giving them a better performance than they just got out of a hot Schmid. So I say let them burn a ton of cap on a goalie through his 30s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Sharpshooter said: If they get a goalie like a Hellebucyk, watch out. They are right there. STFU dude we don't need this kind of negativity in here! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Maybe so, but he's still an established goalie and whatever his contract may be, he's going to give them instantaneous results in goal. It doesn't even need to be him specifically, either. They get a quality goaltender this offseason? They are a contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphinity 2.0 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 15 hours ago, BrooksBurner said: I hope they do. It’s continually proven out that a top goalie isn’t needed in the playoffs, just a hot one, and a top goalie can actually be a detriment based on cap hit. Hellebuyck probably isn’t giving them a better performance than they just got out of a hot Schmid. So I say let them burn a ton of cap on a goalie through his 30s. The thing is they have a ton of cap space and many of their core, young players are locked up long term for $8M or less. They can blow a ton of cap on Hellyebuck and still be good, especially with the cap going up next year. It's horrible to say this, but they're primed to content for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 36 minutes ago, Morphinity 2.0 said: The thing is they have a ton of cap space and many of their core, young players are locked up long term for $8M or less. They can blow a ton of cap on Hellyebuck and still be good, especially with the cap going up next year. It's horrible to say this, but they're primed to content for a while. I felt like I looked at their situation and thought they don’t have as much to work with assuming they re-sign Meier. I want to say it was $18 million for an entire bottom 6 and a couple of defensemen. Hellebuyck in and Vanacek out made it a few million less. They’d be stronger in net, but pretty top heavy this year without a lot of depth. Sounds familiar. I remember thinking they gave too much for too long to Palat. I think his contract is an issue sooner rather than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 3 hours ago, Morphinity 2.0 said: The thing is they have a ton of cap space and many of their core, young players are locked up long term for $8M or less. They can blow a ton of cap on Hellyebuck and still be good, especially with the cap going up next year. It's horrible to say this, but they're primed to content for a while. They got like 5 players locked up tho. Hughes and Hischier at 8 and 7.25 are obviously bargains, but 6m for Palat for 4 more years and Hamilton at 9m is not great, Marino and and Siegenthaler are signed for 4-5 years, but they're not really quality pieces. More like decent #4-5 D-men. They got a lot of cap space at the moment, but only 5 forwards and 3 D's signed through next season. They need like 8 forwards, 3 D's and a goalie with 26m available. If they give Meier ~8m it gets real tight if you're gonna squeeze in Hellebuyck's 6.5m (They would need to potentially re-sign him to a bigger contract as well). They're in a great position with Hughes and Hischier signed to bargain contracts, but I'm not sure about the rest of the players they got signed longer term. I'm not even sold on Bratt. Puts up decent numbers but I just don't see anything really impressive when I watch him. He was a total non-factor in our playoff series and he had 1 goal in 12 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valriera Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 This is a fine contract for a very uninspiring, soft player. Glad it’s not us but it did have to be someone after he put up on his 1yr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 22 hours ago, BrooksBurner said: I hope they do. It’s continually proven out that a top goalie isn’t needed in the playoffs, just a hot one, and a top goalie can actually be a detriment based on cap hit. Hellebuyck probably isn’t giving them a better performance than they just got out of a hot Schmid. So I say let them burn a ton of cap on a goalie through his 30s. The former is true. The latter isn't. I think Hellebuyck unequivocally vaults them into a legitimate contender, but it's also entirely possible that it'll come at a price so steep that it hurts their chances. We can only hope, but I really don't want to test this theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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