RJWantsTheCup Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ozzy said: Oh Shit, that's right! I forgot about Garand! Actually that'd be a pretty great way for Halak to ride off into the sunset! We also have Spicy Pork, but I don't remember how long they signed him for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 15 minutes ago, RJWantsTheCup said: Would love to see Drury figure a way to keep Tarasenko, but just don't see how he can do it. Lots of moving parts, but there are ways to make it happen. They would probably need to give him term (7 years?) in exchange for lower AAV. I'm thinking on the open market he might only net 5 years maximum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, jsrangers said: I respect your pov Pete. We just don't see it the same, to me if you pushed all your chips in already worrying about the kids at this point in the season isn't the concern. Especially if the overall feeling is we have the ability to push out the top 6 in the league after making two huge moves to get Tarasenko and Kane. Hey JS, I'm thinking we could always put them back together if they don't pan out, but I'd be all for seeing what would happen if we balanced it out more like Pete suggested. Just the chance for them to play with guys like Kane and Tarasenko may add to their progression as players faster. I dunno man, I'd give it a whirl for about 5 games down the stretch. We're not going up or down in the standings at this point, so I figure why not? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 24 minutes ago, Pete said: We also know Kane and Panarin can be hot. I don't think three games of being off changes that. There is no manufactured problem, watch the games, they're not working as a line. Tro and Kreider are fine. They were also fine with the Vesey. You're not going to get the best out of Kane by playing him with the most uncreative players on the roster. Yeah, we know they can be hot...7 years ago. In what was arguably Kane's best year in 18-19 where he scored 44 goals and 110 points, he played big minutes with a variety of players including Toews, Anisimov, Dylan Strome, Debrincat, and Saad. I don't see a high end playmaker on that list. None of these guys are more creative than Kreider and Trocheck. They are of the same ilk, actually. If I see evidence that it isn't working, of which there is none, I'll adjust my stance. Best line since being put together 2 games and 1 period ago. Let's not galaxy brain it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) In response to @Ozzycertainly an option but I would be leary of running out of games as your already trying to build as much chemistry as possible around your top six talent as it is. Personally I don't think we have games to spare. Risk vs. reward I personally just don't see it. We're always trying to bend stuff to make these guys (kids) fit better. I especially don't think now is the time. Hell I'm not even saying sit them or whatever, just leave them be. Shrug. Edited March 17, 2023 by jsrangers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 We probably played our best 2 games since K'Andre decided it was ok to spit on someone. I wouldn't switch anything up other than getting Lindgren back with Fox when he's healthy. I think the real question is who plays left side on the 3rd defense pair? I'm torn between Harpur & Mikkola. They both have their moments of looking ok and looking putrid. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 12 minutes ago, jsrangers said: In response to @Ozzycertainly an option but I would be leary of running out of games as your already trying to build as much chemistry as possible around your top six talent as it is. Personally I don't think we have games to spare. Risk vs. reward I personally just don't see it. We're always trying to bend stuff to make these guys (kids) fit better. I especially don't think know is the time. Hell I'm not even saying sit them or whatever, just leave them be. Shrug. I totally get where you're at, JS. I'm just curious to see how Kane or Tarasenko would mesh with Laf . Maybe even wake Chytil from his recent slumber. We'll see how it shakes out, but it's sure a nice "problem" to have, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, RJWantsTheCup said: We probably played our best 2 games since K'Andre decided it was ok to spit on someone. I wouldn't switch anything up other than getting Lindgren back with Fox when he's healthy. I think the real question is who plays left side on the 3rd defense pair? I'm torn between Harpur & Mikkola. They both have their moments of looking ok and looking putrid. Harpur. Never go full Stinkola! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ozzy said: I totally get where you're at, JS. I'm just curious to see how Kane or Tarasenko would mesh with Laf . Maybe even wake Chytil from his recent slumber. We'll see how it shakes out, but it's sure a nice "problem" to have, right? Is Chytil in a slump or is this his normal play. He's shown more periods of his recent play than his 2 hot stretches in his career. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, RJWantsTheCup said: Is Chytil in a slump or is this his normal play. He's shown more periods of his recent play than his 2 hot stretches in his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, RJWantsTheCup said: Is Chytil in a slump or is this his normal play. He's shown more periods of his recent play than his 2 hot stretches in his career. I'm thinking along the lines of "is this who is going to be?". That Hot/Cold shit never flies well, and he's in a contract year, where he should be lighting it up, if not on the scoresheet, somehow, somewhere else on the ice. ...I ain't seen it in more than a few weeks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBrowningPI Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Ryan Lindgren is the Rangers BEST defenseman. Prove me wrong. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, BrooksBurner said: Yeah, we know they can be hot...7 years ago. In what was arguably Kane's best year in 18-19 where he scored 44 goals and 110 points, he played big minutes with a variety of players including Toews, Anisimov, Dylan Strome, Debrincat, and Saad. I don't see a high end playmaker on that list. None of these guys are more creative than Kreider and Trocheck. They are of the same ilk, actually. If I see evidence that it isn't working, of which there is none, I'll adjust my stance. Best line since being put together 2 games and 1 period ago. Let's not galaxy brain it. That's just a hard no and makes me think you haven't seen them play. There's no bigger Kane fan on this board, so spare me the pseudo education on his game. Edited March 17, 2023 by Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Pete said: That's just a hard no and makes me think you haven't seen them play. There's no bigger Kane fan on this board, so spare me the pseudo education on his game. You just don’t want to admit that Kane hs never needed a Panarin to unlock his highest level of play, and he doesn’t need it now. It’s like the idea of pairing playmaking pass first players with shooters is a new concept. It really isn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 4 hours ago, RJWantsTheCup said: We also have Spicy Pork, but I don't remember how long they signed him for. bored so I looked it up, he's signed for next season too, 775K 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 19 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said: You just don’t want to admit that Kane hs never needed a Panarin to unlock his highest level of play, and he doesn’t need it now. I said you're not going to get the most out of Kane by playing him with those guys, as referenced by your point that he had his BEST career year with Panarin. Quote It’s like the idea of pairing playmaking pass first players with shooters is a new concept. It really isn’t. Let me do it for you IRL..."It’s like the idea of pairing Kane and Panarin with Chytil is a new concept. It really isn’t." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 21 minutes ago, Pete said: I said you're not going to get the most out of Kane by playing him with those guys, as referenced by your point that he had his BEST career year with Panarin. Let me do it for you IRL..."It’s like the idea of pairing Kane and Panarin with Chytil is a new concept. It really isn’t." without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said: without. Touchme. They're still nasty together and everyone knows it and it's why he forced a trade here so doesn't matter what you say you're wrong as per the usual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 5 hours ago, RJWantsTheCup said: If the Rangers end up winning The Cup I think Halak retires. Garand had a shut out when I saw the Wolf Pack play. Probably. If not, Biron him and re-sign until Garand or whoever is ready to take over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, Pete said: Touchme. They're still nasty together and everyone knows it and it's why he forced a trade here so doesn't matter what you say you're wrong as per the usual 5v5 Kane w/o Trocheck: 23 TOI, 3 HDCF, 11 HDCA, 39 CF%, 19 xGF%, 0 GF Kane w/ Trocheck: 80 TOI, 18 HDCF, 13 HDCA, 53 CF%, 54 xGF%, 6 GF Kane w/ Trocheck and Kreider: 26 TOI, 13 HDCF, 2 HDCA, 65 CF%, 77 xGF%, 3 GF It works both on paper and via eye test. You might need your eyes checked, as per the usual 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said: 5v5 Kane w/o Trocheck: 23 TOI, 3 HDCF, 11 HDCA, 39 CF%, 19 xGF%, 0 GF Kane w/ Trocheck: 80 TOI, 18 HDCF, 13 HDCA, 53 CF%, 54 xGF%, 6 GF Kane w/ Trocheck and Kreider: 26 TOI, 13 HDCF, 2 HDCA, 65 CF%, 77 xGF%, 3 GF It works both on paper and via eye test. You might need your eyes checked, as per the usual And you're using the smallest sample size possible... The smallest, per usual. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Just now, Pete said: And you're using the smallest sample size possible... The smallest, per usual. Touchme. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 5 hours ago, RJWantsTheCup said: We probably played our best 2 games since K'Andre decided it was ok to spit on someone. I wouldn't switch anything up other than getting Lindgren back with Fox when he's healthy. I think the real question is who plays left side on the 3rd defense pair? I'm torn between Harpur & Mikkola. They both have their moments of looking ok and looking putrid. 5 hours ago, BrooksBurner said: Harpur. Never go full Stinkola! It's gonna be Mikkola. The guy playing 19 minutes a game in Lindgren's spot against the opponent's top players, not 12 minute a night Harpur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 12 minutes ago, Long live the King said: It's gonna be Mikkola. The guy playing 19 minutes a game in Lindgren's spot against the opponent's top players, not 12 minute a night Harpur. Probably. We've established Gallant being a bad coach some time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamsim1967 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 On 3/16/2023 at 9:59 PM, jsrangers said: I was thinking it, didn't want to say it Right after I posted it, wished I hadn't 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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