LindG1000 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) That's a lot of dough for a player that's averaged a 67 point pace the past two seasons, plus 60 and 62 in the two prior to that. I guess with the rising salary cap it's not a big deal, but that AAV is $615k higher than Zibanejad's for less output. Edited October 4, 2022 by Cash or Czech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Cash or Czech said: That's a lot of dough for a player that's averaged a 67 point pace the past two seasons, plus 60 and 62 in the two prior to that. I guess with the rising salary cap it's not a big deal, but that AAV is $615k higher than Zibanejad's for less output. They don't have a choice in the matter. He's too close to free agency not to give him basically what he's asking for. He's the face of their franchise. Having him walk would have been disastrous after what happened with Tavares. I really wouldn't be worried about the AAV here if I'm an Isles fan. The talent is there. He hasn't had a ton of it supporting him, which explains why he's not producing more himself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, Phil said: They don't have a choice in the matter. He's too close to free agency not to give him basically what he's asking for. He's the face of their franchise. Having him walk would have been disastrous after what happened with Tavares. I really wouldn't be worried about the AAV here if I'm an Isles fan. The talent is there. He hasn't had a ton of it supporting him, which explains why he's not producing more himself. I agree from a lens of the Islanders, which I guess is all that matters. Of their 14 current NHL forwards, only Barzal, Beauvillier, Bellows, and Wahlstrom are under 28. They need him if they want any future of competing soon. Even after the deal they still have $12mil in cap space next season with Wahlstrom the only "significant" RFA, and UFAs are Parise (done), Mayfield (bad), and Varlamov (will move on for a cheaper backup). From an NHL perspective, pretty meh. But I guess that's not really what matters here anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 The Zibanejad deal looks better all the time. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 33 minutes ago, Phil said: They don't have a choice in the matter. He's too close to free agency not to give him basically what he's asking for. He's the face of their franchise. Having him walk would have been disastrous after what happened with Tavares. I really wouldn't be worried about the AAV here if I'm an Isles fan. The talent is there. He hasn't had a ton of it supporting him, which explains why he's not producing more himself. I agree I think it's a deal they had make. Compared to some of the other deals Lou's made there this one is the least of the issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valriera Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Considering they had no choice here its pretty good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 ...as a very wise man once put it so eloquently: FUCK THE ISLES! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 That’s a whole lot of money for Scott Gomez 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 So if Brock Nelson supplanted him as the No. 1 center last year, what's that make Nelson worth, $11m? Modified no-trade starting just one year into the contract. With a 22 team no trade clause, he can foreclose all trades by only allowing trades to the 10 most cap stressed teams who couldn't take him. However, the seeming absence of a no-move leaves him susceptible to the waiver threat that forced McDonaugh to waive his no-trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 8 hours ago, Phil said: They don't have a choice in the matter. He's too close to free agency not to give him basically what he's asking for. He's the face of their franchise. Having him walk would have been disastrous after what happened with Tavares. I really wouldn't be worried about the AAV here if I'm an Isles fan. The talent is there. He hasn't had a ton of it supporting him, which explains why he's not producing more himself. This. It's an overpayment...but it's the Isles. They have to overpay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 hour ago, rmc51 said: This. It's an overpayment...but it's the Isles. They have to overpay. It cost those players a lot to park in lots close to UBS Arena. They also have to pay extra on extensions for existing players who have witnessed the Cross Island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Would not be at all surprised to see Barzal put up an 80 point season now that Trotz is out. I don't think it's really much of an overpayment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlairBettsBlocksEverything Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 11 hours ago, Pete said: Would not be at all surprised to see Barzal put up an 80 point season now that Trotz is out. I don't think it's really much of an overpayment. agreed, he's been suffocated by his defensive structure. he has all the tools to be a point per game guy. also he really is the heartbeat of that team. you gotta pay up to keep your guys. What they are going to spend on him, they won't be able to just find elsewhere. you're either getting two $4.5 mil players that won't be potential game-breakers like Barzal can be, or you are probably paying more than that to try and get a bigger name UFA (who probably won't want to go there anyway/won't be as committed to the islanders) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 Butch Goring on Barzal resigning: “This team is going to win a Stanley Cup and he wants to be a part of it.” Is there anyone who can even compete with him for being as big of a biased homer? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 12 hours ago, RichieNextel305 said: Butch Goring on Barzal resigning: “This team is going to win a Stanley Cup and he wants to be a part of it.” Is there anyone who can even compete with him for being as big of a biased homer? And all he needs to do NOT to sound like a momo is make a slight tweak to his delivery. "If the Islanders want to win a Stanley Cup, Barzal needs to be part of it". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Exactly. He’s such a homer dickhead. It really is the worst I’ve ever listened to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 I think I've mastered the art of listening to Butch; Just expect all the smoke in the world blown up the Isles asses, and wait for him to cry about every call the ref doesn't make to give the Isles an advantage. He when he actually overdoes that, that's when I spit beer through my nose giggling. It works! ...and it's quite entertaining!! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 and why wouldnt he be a homer? he spent his entire professional life with the Piles. and i dont think he's aspiring to do TNT or ESPN broadcasts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, CCCP said: and why wouldnt he be a homer? he spent his entire professional life with the Piles. and i dont think he's aspiring to do TNT or ESPN broadcasts ...actually he spent a great deal of his career with the Kings, Simon. More than with the Isles. I think for a while he was the Captain of the team, too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Ozzy said: ...actually he spent a great deal of his career with the Kings, Simon. More than with the Isles. I think for a while he was the Captain of the team, too! fuck him then 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 9 hours ago, Pete said: And all he needs to do NOT to sound like a momo is make a slight tweak to his delivery. "If the Islanders want to win a Stanley Cup, Barzal needs to be part of it". I can't stand the guy but in his defense before he talked stanley cup he said Barzal loves to golf and LI has plenty of great courses. So he was struck with a dose of reality before opening his yap about Barzal winning anything other than a few rounds, of golf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 1 hour ago, CCCP said: fuck him then That's where I'm at!! I like your style, my man!! LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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