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Professions, What do Ya'll do?


jsm7302

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I alluded to this in another thread earlier this year or late last, but I went through a complete career transition. I was in law enforcement for the past eleven years but left to pursue a career in financial crime compliance.

 

I currently work as an Anti Money Laundering Investigator. I was fortunate for this opportunity to present itself and am loving the new challenge. Im 36 and never forecasted this for my life but being with my kids daily is awesome. 

 

What do you all do for a living? Do you enjoy it? Would you do it differently or contemplate a change?

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I work in a really niche, sort of unknown function for food and beverage companies. Basically I support salespeople with data analytics based on trends and demographics. The technical term is "category management". I've done it across a few companies now. Dairy, beer, and, as of a week ago, beverages. 

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I've had many jobs.  Motorcycle Mechanic, Auto Mechanic, HVAC Mechanic/Installer, Construction Customer Service, US Navy Firecontrolman (mainly on the CIWS, but, also Director Tracker for the 5" Gun).  Now (and for the last 26 years) I work in the IT field as an Infrastructure Engineer for a Strip Hotel/Casino in Vegas.

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Have had two careers and one sniff of a career. Graduated college and masters program in biochemistry. Proceeded to move myself to the other side of the world shortly after 9/11 to pursue connections I had for research in China. When I got there, I was also offered a tryout with a lower level pro soccer team there after practicing with them. Very very shortly lived as the team unfortunately went bankrupt and I was cut after a few weeks. Was fun as fuck though. I then remained there and did research work with a local private university. Used to be there about 8-9 months out of each year.  
  Had taken the Police test back in 2003 when I was here visiting my parents. My dad pushed me to sign up for the test (he wasn’t a cop just thought he wanted me to move back here and heard LI cops made good money.) I apparently scored pretty high so I was called about a week after I had taken the test. Problem was, I had just returned to China so I turned down the offer. The investigator offered to defer my application to another date so I said sure, not thinking much of it.

 
  Fast forward 4 years to the afternoon of the Rangers home opener 2007. I was back here visiting and had tickets to see the game with a girl. That morning my dad was at a dr appt for a very sore throat after a ton of testing was told flat out, late stage 4 esophageal cancer that was terminal. I was floored. My dad made me promise I’d go to the game though after we all sat in the afternoon discussing this as a family. He said no way your wasting those tickets like that and said I better at least get laid too. 
 

   That same afternoon Nassau County Police dept called to follow up and just ask if I had changed my mind or they would close my file. I immediately changed careers right then and there and never set foot in China again. Left my stuff there and everything. Went through the investigation process and started a career in law enforcement. 

 

wouldn’t change a thing. 

   My dad passed away on Halloween 2008 weeks after I graduated. I’m glad he got to know everything worked out. 

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On 3/18/2022 at 9:48 PM, Keirik said:

Have had two careers and one sniff of a career. Graduated college and masters program in biochemistry. Proceeded to move myself to the other side of the world shortly after 9/11 to pursue connections I had for research in China. When I got there, I was also offered a tryout with a lower level pro soccer team there after practicing with them. Very very shortly lived as the team unfortunately went bankrupt and I was cut after a few weeks. Was fun as fuck though. I then remained there and did research work with a local private university. Used to be there about 8-9 months out of each year.  
  Had taken the Police test back in 2003 when I was here visiting my parents. My dad pushed me to sign up for the test (he wasn’t a cop just thought he wanted me to move back here and heard LI cops made good money.) I apparently scored pretty high so I was called about a week after I had taken the test. Problem was, I had just returned to China so I turned down the offer. The investigator offered to defer my application to another date so I said sure, not thinking much of it.

 
  Fast forward 4 years to the afternoon of the Rangers home opener 2007. I was back here visiting and had tickets to see the game with a girl. That morning my dad was at a dr appt for a very sore throat after a ton of testing was told flat out, late stage 4 esophageal cancer that was terminal. I was floored. My dad made me promise I’d go to the game though after we all sat in the afternoon discussing this as a family. He said no way your wasting those tickets like that and said I better at least get laid too. 
 

   That same afternoon Nassau County Police dept called to follow up and just ask if I had changed my mind or they would close my file. I immediately changed careers right then and there and never set foot in China again. Left my stuff there and everything. Went through the investigation process and started a career in law enforcement. 

 

wouldn’t change a thing. 

   My dad passed away on Halloween 2008 weeks after I graduated. I’m glad he got to know everything worked out. 

I was looking back on this thread being that it's been a bit since I transitioned away from my last career and I wanted to look back on what you all had posted. Somehow I missed this when I originally made this thread. What a story and what a testament to choices we make having huge impacts on the trajectory of life. Thank you for sharing that.

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3 minutes ago, jsm7302 said:

Has anyone ever worked in a sales or account management capacity?

 

Sales - yes. I did sales for a farm machinery company over the phone and car sales on the lot. 

Account management in a loose capacity, sure. Like onboarding and retention? 

I work for b2b and b2c SAAS company and have done everything for them except write the software. 

 

When it comes to sales, ABC - always be closing. Overcome every objection and have 50 questions you can rattle off to anyone at any given time to keep them talking. Put people on yes ladders and by the time you ask for their money, they can't say no. Know what your product does, know how it fits the needs of your clients, and be the expert when they need help, which I guess is kinda account management eh. 

 

When it comes to account management - Keep em happy and upsell them. 

 

What questions you got?

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10 minutes ago, phillyb said:

 

Sales - yes. I did sales for a farm machinery company over the phone and car sales on the lot. 

Account management in a loose capacity, sure. Like onboarding and retention? 

I work for b2b and b2c SAAS company and have done everything for them except write the software. 

 

When it comes to sales, ABC - always be closing. Overcome every objection and have 50 questions you can rattle off to anyone at any given time to keep them talking. Put people on yes ladders and by the time you ask for their money, they can't say no. Know what your product does, know how it fits the needs of your clients, and be the expert when they need help, which I guess is kinda account management eh. 

 

When it comes to account management - Keep em happy and upsell them. 

 

What questions you got?

You pretty much gave me a good run down of the process. Id have to be selling a product I believe in. How is earning potential? Mostly commissions or are base salaries also a part of compensation? Do you have a work life balance? What would you recommend to get started in the field?

 

I'd be interested in public safety products, insurances, mortgages. I'm not even really sure where to start.

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1 hour ago, jsm7302 said:

You pretty much gave me a good run down of the process. Id have to be selling a product I believe in. How is earning potential? Mostly commissions or are base salaries also a part of compensation? Do you have a work life balance? What would you recommend to get started in the field?

 

I'd be interested in public safety products, insurances, mortgages. I'm not even really sure where to start.

 

I think it depends on what company you work for, what their expectations are, and what you're selling. For example, when I sold leaf vacuums that attached to tractors, it was an inbound call center with warm leads (people who'd already received out catalog/mailer and had an idea of what they wanted). We were expected to sell them equipment, upsell them accessories, but it wasn't very high-pressure. We had a base-salary plus commission and 0 expectation to be available off the clock. 

 

Car sales was almost the exact opposite and by far the most fun I've ever had at work. But the hours sucked and the more commission-based earning scale can be unnerving, but also motivating. If you get to the end of the month with only a few sales, you're HUNGRY and that hunger is GREAT for sales. Also - cocaine, but that's another story for another time lol. 

Family life? Nah, I had to essentially quit in order to attend a kid's party. Days off? What if someone comes in on your day off for an appointment - you wanna split that sale with someone else? Split the commission? Probably not - you get your ass to the dealership on your days off if someone wants to buy a car. 

 

I'm sure there's an in-between. 

 

B2B is also completely different than B2C. When you're selling to a consumer, it's really easy to play off of their emotions and get them to buy something right then and there. When you're working B2B, sales take longer, no emotion, you may travel, you gotta play that game. 

 

Mortgages really interest me (no pun intended). I imagine that's gonna be a lot more emotional than pragmatic for the consumer and people really want your money

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, jsm7302 said:

Do you enjoy the work? Is it demanding? How did you get started?

 

I used to like it a lot more in past years.  It has it's moments, but nowadays it's just getting old to me.  I've been in it for going on 18 years now.  I've made my bones and a lot of the time I just wanna get out of the office and play golf or guitar.

 

It's not hard work, but some customers are demanding.  You're pretty much on call 24/7 all 365.  Some months yes, and some you have to hardly show up.  But when shit breaks, it's a fucking battle.  I guess like most jobs.  The thing is I'm self employed, and my boss can be a real compulsive asshole to himself lots of times.  I really don't give myself enough time to smell the roses.  I've been very successful, and now I just think I wanna smell the roses a bit....probably in about 4 or 5 years I'll just hang it up, ride into the sunset, and just take care of the business groups, and Medicare folks that aren't such a pain in the balls.

 

I got started as a goof, just to appease myself that I could put some use to that Life Insurance license I obtained.  You see, Life, Health, and accident are all the same license (LA), so I figured I could do this while I actually looked for a job...LOL

 

Turns out this was the best thing I ever fell into.  It's a long story on how I got started, but it was a great road building the empire.  Like I said, that was a ways back when, and I'm starting to look forward to spending all that "effort" nowadays.

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