Phil Posted September 15, 2020 Author Share Posted September 15, 2020 In other words, he's a free agent and has a choice. Groundbreaking. :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Earth shattering revelations from the Swedish journo there Sam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Well, it does indicate that the initial negotiations did not yield anything. Let him sift through offers before deciding to take a discount with the Rangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlairBettsBlocksEverything Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Well, it does indicate that the initial negotiations did not yield anything. Let him sift through offers before deciding to take a discount with the Rangers. They recently changed the rules to allow UFAs to negotiate with other teams before Free Agency officially opens right? Maybe your right, and he'd like to get a hint of whats available before seeing if its worth it to stay for cheaper. although even before those rule changes it probably happened all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYR2711 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 I would love if they can get a deal done. He would be a great player on the third line for this team, and can be moved around the lineup if there are any injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ThirtyONE Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 I'm not going to lose sleep over Jesper Fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 What’s the highest they should go in both term and AAV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 What’s the highest they should go in both term and AAV? Probably 4 and 3.25 respectively. He should get 4 on the open market (thinking the Hagelin deal or so). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Probably 4 and 3.25 respectively. He should get 4 on the open market (thinking the Hagelin deal or so). Agreed. 4 years in term is perfect. Takes him through his age 32 season. That’s probably the remaining amount of his good hockey. Anymore than 3.25 is too much, and ideally if they can keep it at 3 that’s perfect. That’s still a 1.15 million dollar raise on his current salary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 I would offer 2.5M for 4 years as a starting point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 I would offer 2.5M for 4 years as a starting point. That’s fine. But as long as they realize they’ll have to go up from there. They need to be careful with that. Negotiating tactics are always employed, but there’s a limit to that when you’re doing it to one of your own that you’ve identified as one of “your guys.” You can take it too far and cause a breakdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Heaven Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 https://nypost.com/2020/10/02/rebuilding-rangers-still-have-work-to-do-not-even-close/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=pasteboard_app ?Gorton talked around the Fast situation, but The Post has learned that there has not been a single conversation between the team and Kurt Overhardt, the winger?s agent, since extension talks broke down leading into the deadline. So, one wouldn?t expect an offer at this late date, especially since the Rangers are being careful to leave a bumper to protect them against entry level bonus charges against the cap.? Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 C ya later Fast! Moving on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Honestly, that's fine. Do we really need to spend 3-4 million on a 3rd/4th liner? Again, he's one of those small players that doesn't play a physical game at all. He only put up 29 points playing with Panarin almost all year long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Honestly, that's fine. Do we really need to spend 3-4 million on a 3rd/4th liner? Again, he's one of those small players that doesn't play a physical game at all. He only put up 29 points playing with Panarin almost all year long. We've been harping on our bottom 6 being terrible last year for how long now? We should have some incentive to keep him. Last year aside, since he was used in the top 6 out of necessity, he has been our best bottom 6 player for the last 5 years. Our bottom 6 was so piss poor partially because we couldn't play Fast in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 We've been harping on our bottom 6 being terrible last year for how long now? We should have some incentive to keep him. Last year aside, since he was used in the top 6 out of necessity, he has been our best bottom 6 player for the last 5 years. Our bottom 6 was so piss poor partially because we couldn't play Fast in it. In the top 6, he's not good. In the bottom 6, he's a replacement level. That's how I see it. Someone mentioned him getting 4 million a year on the open market, I think that's a horrendous waste of cap space. Unfortunately the things he does well can be found elsewhere for cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 In the top 6, he's not good. In the bottom 6, he's a replacement level. That's how I see it. Someone mentioned him getting 4 million a year on the open market, I think that's a horrendous waste of cap space. Unfortunately the things he does well can be found elsewhere for cheaper. Replacement level =\= Replaceable. Replacement level implies you can fill anyone in and they’ll do an equal job. I’m sorry but there’s nothing about Fast’s game that leads be to believe that. Statistics paint him as an incredibly strong defensive contributor not replacement level. If you want to say he’s replaceable because you think he’s too expensive for his role? Fine. I’ll buy that. Can anyone do his job? No. Because he’s really good at his job. It’s not Fast’s fault he played up in the top six. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 If they don't sign Fast do they have any wingers to kill penalties? Zibs and Howden are the only 2 penalty killers I can think of off the top of my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 If they don't sign Fast do they have any wingers to kill penalties? Zibs and Howden are the only 2 penalty killers I can think of off the top of my head. Grabner's about to be bought out, and there's a few others out on the market that could be decent fits there. Either that, or you throw the big guns out there and powerkill it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Heaven Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Grabner's about to be bought out, and there's a few others out on the market that could be decent fits there. Either that, or you throw the big guns out there and powerkill it. Go Get Grabs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Go Get Grabs! I’d be cautious about Grabs at this point. About to turn 33. Speed could be starting to go anytime now. They’d have to be sure on his medical too. He’s missed a lot of time last 2 seasons with some injuries. Worth a look and some consideration, but tread carefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Heaven Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 I’d be cautious about Grabs at this point. About to turn 33. Speed could be starting to go anytime now. They’d have to be sure on his medical too. He’s missed a lot of time last 2 seasons with some injuries. Worth a look and some consideration, but tread carefully. He'd still be faster than most players on the 3rd/4th line....Defensively responsible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYR2711 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Replacement level =\= Replaceable. Replacement level implies you can fill anyone in and they’ll do an equal job. I’m sorry but there’s nothing about Fast’s game that leads be to believe that. Statistics paint him as an incredibly strong defensive contributor not replacement level. If you want to say he’s replaceable because you think he’s too expensive for his role? Fine. I’ll buy that. Can anyone do his job? No. Because he’s really good at his job. It’s not Fast’s fault he played up in the top six. Agree with this. Its not about the points factor with Fast, its the fact that he is one of the best defensive forwards in the league, and is a guy in a game time emergency can be slotted up in the lineup. Honestly, if he can play his defensive game on the third line and contribute 30 or so points. that a plus in my book. Teams need 4 solid lines, and this team is still pretty far from that, so Fast playing there would help out that situation. As for Grabner, I wouldn't mind a 1 year deal at $1M for him. Its a low risk move. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 I’d be cautious about Grabs at this point. About to turn 33. Speed could be starting to go anytime now. They’d have to be sure on his medical too. He’s missed a lot of time last 2 seasons with some injuries. Worth a look and some consideration, but tread carefully. To be fair, one of those injuries was a freak eye injury. Grabner still has wheels and is capable. I'd bring him back on a one or two year deal on the cheap. He's not going to cost much at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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