BrooksBurner Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 And it's entirely temporary and could change dramatically as soon as the second buyout window opens. It'll also transform completely by 2021 when Team Triple Shit (Shattenkirk, Staal, Smith) are all off the roster. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatfrancesa Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Sure, but in the meantime it's beginning to appear like they'll have to paper over their sins with a buyout(s), or, dump some cheaper, controllable, guys like Deangelo or Buchnevich to make room for the new shiny toys. Yup. It’s wash rinse repeat. 1 cup every 100 years doing the same god damn thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatfrancesa Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Trouba contract isn’t half as bad as the other big one they gave out. Good defenseman cost big bucks and while it’s an overpay it’s possible he comes close to meeting its value. Panarin at the second highest paid guy in the league will never match value. It was a loser once the ink dried and it will be worse once this team shows how many holes they still have and no money to address them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Trouba contract isn’t half as bad as the other big one they gave out. Good defenseman cost big bucks and while it’s an overpay it’s possible he comes close to meeting its value. Panarin at the second highest paid guy in the league will never match value. It was a loser once the ink dried and it will be worse once this team shows how many holes they still have and no money to address them. :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Trouba contract isn?t half as bad as the other big one they gave out. Good defenseman cost big bucks and while it?s an overpay it?s possible he comes close to meeting its value. Panarin at the second highest paid guy in the league will never match value. It was a loser once the ink dried and it will be worse once this team shows how many holes they still have and no money to address them. Wait, you don?t like the Panarin deal? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 As soon as we get redden, sorry Gomez sorry drury sorry Richards sorry Dan Boyle sorry girardi sorry Staal sorry Smith sorry shattenkirk off the roster. Going forward everything will be fine. The rangers never get burned by long term deals. You act like we never had competitive seasons with some of those rosters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatfrancesa Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 I act like I want to do if differently because what’s been done in the past doesn’t work. Success is a cup. Bring competitive is great but at some point it needs to culminate in a championship. That’s the goal unless I’m missing something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 I act like I want to do if differently because what’s been done in the past doesn’t work. Success is a cup. Bring competitive is great but at some point it needs to culminate in a championship. That’s the goal unless I’m missing something The thing that you're missing is that Trouba is 25 years old. It's actually a major factor in this signing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 2 conference finals and a Stanley cup final is more than being competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatfrancesa Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 I’m not hating this deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 20, 2019 Author Share Posted July 20, 2019 Sure, but in the meantime it's beginning to appear like they'll have to paper over their sins with a buyout(s), or, dump some cheaper, controllable, guys like Deangelo or Buchnevich to make room for the new shiny toys. I mean, DeAngelo may not be long for the team regardless. There's only so much money to go around and the Panarin/Trouba deals (rightfully) have forced the front office into a position where they can no longer overpay marginal players. If Fox is who he is supposed to be, isn't he younger, better DeAngelo, anyway? I'd imagine Plan A is some combination of trading Kreider for futures + at least one of Strome or Namestnikov for no money back (say Colorado for Bowers?). Plan B, in the event some significant portion of A is unsuccessful, is a buyout(s) of Smith/Shattenkirk. Then next summer, buyout the final year of Staal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Give Buchnevich and Deangelo 1 year deals. Put everyone on blast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 20, 2019 Author Share Posted July 20, 2019 Give Buchnevich and Deangelo 1 year deals. Put everyone on blast. Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatfrancesa Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 You think they are getting bowers for Namestnikov or strome? It’s unlikely they take no money back for starters and they aren’t getting a good prospect to boot. Why would Colorado do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBrowningPI Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Can everyone please stop using the gaming box references. It's just tiring and most guys on here are way to busy to play video games on a regular basis, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 At least the di Gueseppe (phon.) contract is two way, rendering it harmless capwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 I act like I want to do if differently because what’s been done in the past doesn’t work. Success is a cup. Bring competitive is great but at some point it needs to culminate in a championship. That’s the goal unless I’m missing something This is a really binary, overly simplistic way of looking at it. If you're flying a plane, and your altimeter says you're losing altitude at 50 feet per second, that's probably fine and very navigable. If you're 20 feet off the ground, it's a disaster. There's a pretty good argument that the Rangers were horrendously unlucky to have not won a cup in the cap era thus far, especially in the late Torts/early AV years. What were they missing? They had gamebreaking talent at multiple positions, they had strong defense, they had the best keeper in the world, they were always "in the game". They won Presidents trophies, conference titles, divisions, even some individual awards. Was it...timing? Circumstance? Luck? Running into a pair of teams with slightly wider open windows (LA, TB)? Can't add those to your roster, but if you figure it out, pass on the secret. And, may as well let San Jose and Vancouver know too; they're probably equally unlucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatfrancesa Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 This is a really binary, overly simplistic way of looking at it. If you're flying a plane, and your altimeter says you're losing altitude at 50 feet per second, that's probably fine and very navigable. If you're 20 feet off the ground, it's a disaster. There's a pretty good argument that the Rangers were horrendously unlucky to have not won a cup in the cap era thus far, especially in the late Torts/early AV years. What were they missing? They had gamebreaking talent at multiple positions, they had strong defense, they had the best keeper in the world, they were always "in the game". They won Presidents trophies, conference titles, divisions, even some individual awards. Was it...timing? Circumstance? Luck? Running into a pair of teams with slightly wider open windows (LA, TB)? Can't add those to your roster, but if you figure it out, pass on the secret. And, may as well let San Jose and Vancouver know too; they're probably equally unlucky. It’s not simplistic it’s just the facts. Chalk it up to luck, mismanagement of the team when they reached contender status shortening their window, or whatever fact is it didn’t end with accomplishing the goal. If you’d goal is to be entertained and be competitive they unquestionably did both. At some point though after nearly a century of always chasing the top free agent would it be crazy to think that maybe there might be a better way, especially in the cap era. It’s not to say you can’t ever sign a guy but do they really even know what they have right now? It only matters because when things materialize they are very constrained with the moves they can make due to the cap. If Kakko and Kravtsov meet their expectations then I’m not sure the money spent on panarin wouldn’t be better spent elsewhere, like center or defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck Head Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 I just get the feeling that Trouba is a complete douche and essentially the anti-McD. We?d be lucky is Trouba has half the X factors of mcdonagh. He got his wish to get out of Winnipeg, just signed a contract outside his performance level.....he better square up now. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Yeah, 100%. It's time to get to work, no more shenanigans. Should be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodrigueGabriel Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Yeah, 100%. It's time to get to work, no more shenanigans. Should be interesting.Add to this that it was his and fiance's 1st choice. Should be nirvana all around. Sent from my SM-G970U using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Well, no wonder he took it so easy on us on this contract :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodrigueGabriel Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Well, no wonder he took it so easy on us on this contract :)He just forgot to tell Overhardt. Sent from my SM-G970U using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 While Anthopolous was the Jay's GM, he, and Ricciardi before him, had a no Scott Boras policy. If I was Gorton I wouldn't even look at another Overhardt client. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 While Anthopolous was the Jay's GM, he, and Ricciardi before him, had a no Scott Boras policy. If I was Gorton I wouldn't even look at another Overhardt client. Those Jays teams won so many titles its a mythology most teams should have employed.... Oh.... wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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