Phil Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Mobile link: Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giacomin Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Hmmm, they could not reach an agreement yet. Chevy wants him on for another shot at the Cup this year. Will he be a UFA after this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 22, 2018 Author Share Posted July 22, 2018 One more year of RFA. He's in the same position as Parise was with the Devils the last two years. They seem utterly reluctant to pay him anywhere near what he's worth long-term. I wouldn't be surprised if he went to arbitration again next summer and left as a UFA, just like Parise. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giacomin Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Thanks. Hard to see him staying if he goes to arb next year. BTW, do you know this: If Skjei signs a 2 year deal is he a RFA or UFA after? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 22, 2018 Author Share Posted July 22, 2018 He'd be an RFA still. One year away from UFA. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giacomin Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 grazie molto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 23, 2018 Author Share Posted July 23, 2018 De nada. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Too many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Jets playing with fire here, but if the plan is to keep him for one more run before they trade him next offseason its a good deal for them. Trouba @ 5.5m is a steal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Btw, why didnt anyone offer sheet him? 6m AAV would mean just a 1st and a 3rd. From 6 to 8.1m its a 1st, 2nd and 3rd. Trouba is easily worth that for non-lottery teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 Jets playing with fire here, but if the plan is to keep him for one more run before they trade him next offseason its a good deal for them. Trouba @ 5.5m is a steal. They don't even need to. They could do this again if they absolutely had to, or inexplicably wanted to, and just let him go the Parise route to UFA after the 2019 season having gotten the majority of his prime for very little. They've got a window to win the Cup these next few years, anyway. Btw, why didnt anyone offer sheet him? 6m AAV would mean just a 1st and a 3rd. From 6 to 8.1m its a 1st, 2nd and 3rd. Trouba is easily worth that for non-lottery teams. Because offer sheets aren't actually a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 They don't even need to. They could do this again if they absolutely had to, or inexplicably wanted to, and just let him go the Parise route to UFA after the 2019 season having gotten the majority of his prime for very little. They've got a window to win the Cup these next few years, anyway. I guess, but he's still 26 in two years, losing a 26 y/old Trouba for free will hurt. I could see them signing him long term after the upcoming season when Myers 5.5m will be off the books. Still needs to sign Connor, Laine and Morressey next season tho. Wheeler aswell, but he'll be 32 next summer, so not sure what they'll do with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 Yeah, I mean, I'd have locked him up long ago. I'm just saying, I could see them just cutting bait soon. That relationship can't be that great after arbitration and his hold out a couple years ago. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slobberknocker Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 he's gonna go ufa and look for the 8 year deal, which again means you'll pay big money to a 34-35 year old. i'd rather take my chances with the kids and future drafts. no way you will get him to broadway offering 5 years in 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 He can only get eight years from the Jets. The UFA market can only offer as many as seven. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Hayes for Trouba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Hayes for Trouba no, we already overpaid 1 dman this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 That remains to be seen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 Hayes for Trouba Not if Hayes isn't signed long-term. The Jets have the same trouble as other clubs in not knowing if their big pieces, Trouba included, are in for the long-term. Hayes for Trouba doesn't answer the question for them. It just changes a variable. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 I was kidding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 I would have, though. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Not if Hayes isn't signed long-term. The Jets have the same trouble as other clubs in not knowing if their big pieces, Trouba included, are in for the long-term. Hayes for Trouba doesn't answer the question for them. It just changes a variable. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk I would think any deal centered around Hayes will be a sign-and-trade. Would bring back a much better return than selling him as a rental at the deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Respecttheblue Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 They don't even need to. They could do this again if they absolutely had to, or inexplicably wanted to, and just let him go the Parise route to UFA after the 2019 season having gotten the majority of his prime for very little. They've got a window to win the Cup these next few years, anyway. Because offer sheets aren't actually a thing. I thought you could still make an offer for an RFA and if you got him, you had to compensate according to a schedule. I fully admit I do spend time under a rock. A very heavy one, and the why, wherefore, and what happened while I wan't looking closely enough of offersheets escaped my notice. What happened to them? Why is it they "aren't actually a thing"? DiD something change legally in the NHL to take them off the table? or is it some kind of unspoken convention among owners and no-one does it anymore? I don't know and have no idea. What went wrong or what changed? A 1st and a 3rd for Trouba, if that was the compensation, seems more than reasonable. I'd hit it. Was that a missed opportunity or just not an opportunity that ever existed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 1, 2018 Author Share Posted August 1, 2018 I would think any deal centered around Hayes will be a sign-and-trade. Would bring back a much better return than selling him as a rental at the deadline. It would have to be, but at this point, that would also effectively require Hayes' consent to go to Winnipeg long-term. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 1, 2018 Author Share Posted August 1, 2018 I thought you could still make an offer for an RFA and if you got him, you had to compensate according to a schedule. I fully admit I do spend time under a rock. A very heavy one, and the why, wherefore, and what happened while I wan't looking closely enough of offersheets escaped my notice. Yes, if you sign an unprotected RFA, you are required to compensate the team with whatever the requisite picks are. Arbitration protects any RFA from an offer sheet, however. The moment the team or player elect, that player can only leave via trade, and only if the team doesn't actually go to arbitration and signs them ahead of the scheduled meeting. What happened to them? Why is it they "aren't actually a thing"? DiD something change legally in the NHL to take them off the table? or is it some kind of unspoken convention among owners and no-one does it anymore? I don't know and have no idea. What went wrong or what changed? The latter. GMs, by and large, play a safe game by never stepping on the toes of others. A 1st and a 3rd for Trouba, if that was the compensation, seems more than reasonable. I'd hit it. Was that a missed opportunity or just not an opportunity that ever existed? In a trade? Would have cost much more than that. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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