Drew a Penalty Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 What separates Domi from Hayes besides potential and name? They've produced at the same level with Hayes definitively being the better goal scorer. Then you have the benefit of being a center whose production comes at 5v5 while getting mostly defensive zone starts. That's all stuff that makes him significantly more valuable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 How am I gm bashing? I’m stating my opinion that Hayes isn’t as valuable. No, I didn’t mean YOU were bashing. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.wiskers Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Time will tell, what if we are looking to move Hayes because we already have Tavares in the mix but don?t want to tip our hand. Tavares, Zibanejad, Chytil, Andersson-Howden, Nieves plus any center that falls to us, waiting in the wing. We may need to clear cap for Tavares contract. Sent from my iPad using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Hayes is not far better than Galchenyuk, Domi (right now) I would agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 I actually like Hayes. As far as potential goes though I don’t agree with you guys. If Hayes could have been swapped for Galchenyuk I think that trade makes sense for both sides roster wise. I agree with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Hayes is not far better than Galchenyuk, Domi (right now) I would agree. At even strength its not even close. Over the last two years: Hayes - 152 Games - 35G (.23 gpg), 43A (.28 apg), 41.7% OZS Galch - 143 Games - 21G (.15 gpg), 35A (.24 apg), 62.1% OZS I don't think Hayes is more talented than Galch, but he's been way better over the last two seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletch Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Would love to see Hayes traded, don't see a lot of drive from him to get better or contribute on a consistent basis. Maybe a change of scenery helps him, but he helps the Rangers most as a trade chip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontonyr Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Nothing against Hayes, personally, but I've seen him as this offseason's trade chip for quite some time. If he wasn't good, he wouldn't be valuable to us or other teams - so it's not about value/quality. Ultimately, it's about fit and whether we can turn a player of his caliber into assets, or, something greater by utilizing other pieces in the form of players, picks or room (though the NYR have said they won't take on bad contracts, not great contracts for a good player is a different story). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giacomin Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Would love to see Hayes traded, don't see a lot of drive from him to get better or contribute on a consistent basis. Maybe a change of scenery helps him, but he helps the Rangers most as a trade chip. That's the reason I'm reluctant to trade him. He has been improving with questionable coaching. Want to see improvement? Compare his faceoffs year one and now. Compare D and possession #'s. How about his PK? Not improved? He is becoming more willing to shoot and take the puck to the goal. Now he has a new coach entering his 4th year, he's ready to take the next step. Especially after a strong finish. Hayes = Dorito problem, goofyness problem Galy = Opiate problem, D problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletch Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 my guess is that he doesn't lose the dorito problem without changing his living situation, getting traded to a different team could be the kick in the ass that gets him moving him in a better direction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Is there a link or any credible source that says what Galchenyuk's supposed (unconfirmed) stint in rehab was about? A google search only brings up Tremblay alleging it in a radio interview. But, it's not uncommon for shit like this to happen in Montreal when they want someone out of town. There's also a reddit thread...so... Can someone post a link to something reliable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Is there a link or any credible source that says what Galchenyuk's supposed (unconfirmed) stint in rehab was about? A google search only brings up Tremblay alleging it in a radio interview. But, it's not uncommon for shit like this to happen in Montreal when they want someone out of town. There's also a reddit thread...so... Can someone post a link to something reliable? https://www.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/galchenyuk-attended-nhl-s-drug-and-alcohol-rehab-claims-former-habs-coach Galchenyuk attended NHL’s drug and alcohol rehab, claims former Habs coach Some Montreal Canadiens fans might look to react to Jean-Francois Chaumount's report in the Journal de Montreal this morning, where he cites former Habs coach Mario Tremblay telling 98.5 FM Montreal’s Mario Langlois that forward Alex Galchenyuk twice received treatment in the NHL’s drug and alcohol program. It is confirmed that a player who takes part in the league’s assistance program has the right to do so on a confidential basis and is not obligated to inform his team. If Galchenyuk did receive treatment, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 https://www.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/galchenyuk-attended-nhl-s-drug-and-alcohol-rehab-claims-former-habs-coach Galchenyuk attended NHL’s drug and alcohol rehab, claims former Habs coach Yea, that's the unsubstantiated article. And it doesn't say anything about opioids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giacomin Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 That was the discussion when Tremblay went on the radio, heard him with my own ears. I was cutting wood this past fall and stopped the saw so I could listen in disbelief. That was followed by a frank discussion with the show hosts and a Montreal insider and then a beat reporter. They talked about a partying problem, out on the town hammered, drugs and alcohol. The hint of the real issue came when said something like... this isn't pot smoking we are talking about, but supposedly an issue that started with pain killers. I remember thinking, yeah after that brutal series with the Rangers. The next show hosts decided players were due confidentiality and the network as a whole followed suit. But for a couple of hours it was mayhem, with a few people acknowledging knowing Galy had a problem. I reported it here to the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 So, again, nothing substantial and no proof other than one person (Tremblay) making an accusation. Sorry but I'm not sure if I'm buying that, especially since...you know...Montreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 That was the discussion when Tremblay went on the radio, heard him with my own ears. I was cutting wood this past fall and stopped the saw so I could listen in disbelief. That was followed by a frank discussion with the show hosts and a Montreal insider and then a beat reporter. They talked about a partying problem, out on the town hammered, drugs and alcohol. The hint of the real issue came when said something like... this isn't pot smoking we are talking about, but supposedly an issue that started with pain killers. I remember thinking, yeah after that brutal series with the Rangers. The next show hosts decided players were due confidentiality and the network as a whole followed suit. But for a couple of hours it was mayhem, with a few people acknowledging knowing Galy had a problem. I reported it here to the board. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 So, again, nothing substantial and no proof other than one person (Tremblay) making an accusation. Sorry but I'm not sure if I'm buying that, especially since...you know...Montreal. I understand, but that’s why I included the confidentiality part. They are not allowed to discuss medical matters of a player, without permission. I think there was a comment made by Therrien, too. Dancing around a question in regards to partying/drugs said something like “I wish they went home ate milk and cookies and went to bed...” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Lol Yeah, I’m thinking metaphor as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giacomin Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Yeah, I’m thinking metaphor as well. Ha, didn't realize "chopping wood" was such a safe practice. 'Shutting the saw' must be the equivalent of closing the porn window. Must be more careful with my wording, this place is a minefield. I'm modifying all my scouting reports, no longer will I say... he's a good stick handler plays like he's alone on the ice in hard situations he grips his stick too tight over manages the puck likes to dangle he's got soft hands gets pumped up quick wrister drops his gloves only to get beat isn't afraid to shoot clutcher and grabber will handle his business loves the wrap arounder holds onto it too long a real ball bruiser quick release gets greasy goals in dirty areas does his job plays hard solid in the clutch slippery in tight spaces the sydney crosby the morton downey (cause he's a jerkoff) washes the dishes Some original material for your entertainment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Ha, didn't realize "chopping wood" was such a safe practice. 'Shutting the saw' must be the equivalent of closing the porn window. Must be more careful with my wording, this place is a minefield. I'm modifying all my scouting reports, no longer will I say... he's a good stick handler plays like he's alone on the ice in hard situations he grips his stick too tight over manages the puck likes to dangle he's got soft hands gets pumped up quick wrister drops his gloves only to get beat isn't afraid to shoot clutcher and grabber will handle his business loves the wrap arounder holds onto it too long a real ball bruiser quick release gets greasy goals in dirty areas does his job plays hard solid in the clutch slippery in tight spaces the sydney crosby the morton downey (cause he's a jerkoff) washes the dishes Some original material for your entertainment. All of those and no use of fivehole? Not bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 So, again, nothing substantial and no proof other than one person (Tremblay) making an accusation. Sorry but I'm not sure if I'm buying that, especially since...you know...Montreal. I don’t buy it either. And whether true or not, it’s really a classless move by Tremblay. That sort of thing doesn’t need to be made public when it’s been kept private. Just no reason for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Ha, didn't realize "chopping wood" was such a safe practice. 'Shutting the saw' must be the equivalent of closing the porn window. Must be more careful with my wording, this place is a minefield. I'm modifying all my scouting reports, no longer will I say... he's a good stick handler plays like he's alone on the ice in hard situations he grips his stick too tight over manages the puck likes to dangle he's got soft hands gets pumped up quick wrister drops his gloves only to get beat isn't afraid to shoot clutcher and grabber will handle his business loves the wrap arounder holds onto it too long a real ball bruiser quick release gets greasy goals in dirty areas does his job plays hard solid in the clutch slippery in tight spaces the sydney crosby the morton downey (cause he's a jerkoff) washes the dishes Some original material for your entertainment. Priceless!! :+1: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 So, again, nothing substantial and no proof other than one person (Tremblay) making an accusation. Sorry but I'm not sure if I'm buying that, especially since...you know...Montreal. I believe it. Tremblay is an asshole either way, but I think it’s true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 I believe it. Tremblay is an asshole either way, but I think it?s true.People can think whatever they want. That's their prerogative. That doesn't make it a fact. And it certainly isn't fact enough to pinpoint opioids as the drug of choice. You believe it because we know that in general there's a ton of players in the NHL with drug problems. What other proof is there besides Tremblay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 People can think whatever they want. That's their prerogative. That doesn't make it a fact. And it certainly isn't fact enough to pinpoint opioids as the drug of choice. You believe it because we know that in general there's a ton of players in the NHL with drug problems. What other proof is there besides Tremblay? I didn’t say it was fact, I said I believe it. Regardless of how much of an asshole he is, I don’t think he made it up. As far as the substance of choice, all I can guess is that he, like many others rehabbing an injury, could have got a bit hooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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