BrooksBurner

It's less about the veterans and more about the 18-21 year old kids seeing guys sort of sulk around waiting to be traded again. Love Zuccarello but he was a drag for a while last year. You'd think someone drowned his puppy in front of him at times. Maybe they've gotten rid of enough over the last 2 years that it's not a problem anymore, but it still seems more beneficial to make the decision now rather than later.

If no Panarin, I'm good with Pavelski on a short contract like that. Though, Panarin at the end of a 7 year contract will be Pavelski's current age. Seems a little alarmist to worry about Panarin from age 27-35 and not Pavelski from age 35-38?

For me there are too many questions if you go into the year with him and no extension. What if he gets hurt? What if he has a down year statistically? What does this do to team morale with all the trade deadline chatter again? A lot can go wrong here with a pretty valuable asset. It's possible that if contract talks are unreasonably high AND if there isn't a great offer to trade, then carrying him into the season may be a forced backup plan.

What I meant by house money is that a contract less than 12m won't get you a player of Panarin's caliber within a few short years, unless there are significant changes to the cap. The concern on paying Panarin isn't really the first few years, but more about the backend of the contract. At that point, the dollar amount won't be high relative to what others in his tier or even below his tier are getting. I'll take Panarin at 12 million over Kreider at 7.5 and Duchene at 10.

Every contract that gets signed, I get more and more convinced than I already was that the Rangers should lock up Panarin at all costs for two reasons. First, he's well worth what he'll get unlike the contracts I am seeing some other players get. Second, the contract Panarin gets will eventually be the same contract a lesser player will get within probably 2 years. Make it happen Gorton. 7x12. Anything less is house money.

Kreider's eyes just lit up.

Wow. A lot of money flying around this offseason.

Yes. You said you'd rather have Panarin than Kreider and then didn't list either of them. So I figured you gave the money elsewhere. ;)

Lol the charts they shared for Trouba and Pionk are the same. Just flipped upside down in the wrong direction for Pionk.

I just assumed since he didn't list defensemen, he had given the money to Stanley Cup winner Michael Del Zotto to bolster the left side with winning experience.

A list of teams he will consider signing long term before becoming a UFA next summer. A team would be much less inclined to pay the price to acquire him if he isn't even interested in anything past a year.

I'm thinking the same. I've been figuring this whole time that he will command close to 7. If it's closer to 5.5 then it's a no brainer.

Nah. I just saw Trouba in the title and clicked in my excitement.

We can. We just have to stay up late watching Jets games now.

Seems like this might either mean Kreider is a goner or they will not be players for Panarin. Nobody wanted Smith or Shattenkirk so we can't get rid of it and a buyout is a bad decision right now.

edit: wrong thread

Maybe they aren't committed to DeAngelo. If they aren't, why can't Shattenkirk play on the 3rd pairing with some time on the PP for a year? If he plays well in that role, someone might want him at a reduced cost. Otherwise, they can buy him out at that point for far cheaper.

Meh. I feel pretty confident it won't be that hard to get him to sign an extension.

Brooks doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.

So they paid less for Trouba then WPG paid for 2 months for Hayes? That is unbelievable. What a deal by Gorton.

Wow. Huge money.

Fair ask. I think we drafted him at 7 with the hope he would turn into a good top 6 forward offensively, but mostly with the expectation he would really be that 2 way type of player like Stepan was. Leadership qualities were also touted IIRC. Let's say good is a strong two way game at the same production clip that Stepan exhibited.

He has more talent than he is given credit for.

The amount of crow that will be served to members on this board will be monumental if Lias Andersson develops into a good player.

Depends on the marriage and the situation. This isn't the same as a middle class family that has to move out of necessity for work to be a provider. Looking at it through the scope of a beyond rich athlete, if it's a legitimate marriage where he loves his wife more than himself, it's a no brainer to honor her wishes in this case. "I want to play there" is not good enough. If it were, he should divorce her and find someone else.