Dunny

Definitely a good time to spend those Bonvoy points.

I hit our fibre connection with a string trimmer, and we left for three days last summer lol. 

33 minutes ago, Puck Head said:

NCAA US colleges offer 18 per team, (full ride) and Hockey Atlantic offers 14 each team.

RIT and Union offer no scholarships.

So just over 1k full ride scholarships out there.

 

Thanks.. does that include meals/books/lodging, or just tuition?

That's almost certainly accurate, and a great synopsis, but it would be sweet to have the skull crusher crushing skulls.

He didn't even fight that much. Neither did Belak or Boogaard. All fought at different points in their careers. Simon's full record is particularly benign. Probert fought a ton, but he also did massive amounts of cocaine. All the guys that don't make it have massive substance abuse issues. They're drug addicts. They all remind me of John Kordic.

Why? My dumb guess is that it's fueled by $$$$ and opportunity that comes from the NHL. They are, generally, rough and tumble people from a young age.

There are hundreds of guys that fought their way through the IHL, AHL, ECHL, etc, over the past 30 years. They fought wayyyy more. Anecdotally, it's hard to find one that isn't alive. 

4 minutes ago, Vodka Drunkenski said:

If only we had a guy to take a match penalty

Good point, an excellent tool to shift momentum.

It's too bad we don't have a player that can step in and cause opposing teams to lose focus, get distracted, go off the rails a little bit. Ah well. Thought Brodzinski was really gonna make a difference tonight.

I'm just disappointed that Laviolette is going to make me resent Johnny Brodzinksi.

27 minutes ago, Pete said:

 

Here's been my experience so far, coupled with what I learned from parents with kids older than mine.

 

Generally, the kids that get most attention from the program are the better kids. So if your kid is on a B team, he's not getting anywhere near the skills attention that the higher ranked kids are.

 

The difference between the A tiers and B at u-10 normally boils down to who are the biggest kids and who got on skates earliest. Then it will become who can afford the privates.

 

As the kids get older, yes, the kids who have the most skill earlier will likely have the more skill later but then life gets in the way. Who wants to play other sports, who wants to chase tail, who's drinking, etc. The introduction of checking also adds an additional dynamic.

 

I kind of laugh at some of our parents who stress over "tryouts" and all these parents who switch programs every season because they think other ones are better. They're generally all the same for one reason or another. You try to move to a "better program" and there's more politics involved. It's a trade off. 

 

All these kids are headed to beer league. USA hockey really doesn't promote or care about what's happening in New Jersey. They know where their bread is buttered, the Midwest and New England. 

 

@Dunny has seen way more of it than I have. 

A lot of good points, there. 

Access is probably a much bigger issue for a lot of Americans not in Minnesota. I have 23 rinks within a very easy 30 minute drive. Not 23 pads, 23 stand alone rinks lol. Costs for entry in to hockey here are incredibly low, and even if you flat out don't have the resources to put your kid through hockey, we'll do it for you. From my time on the board of our org, of the 225ish kids in the program, there's always a couple we're paying for. It's all good.

So, I can't really speak to much of the US. I can only assume from what I see in the NHL, that in much of the US hockey is a upper middle class sport, there.

I also agree that they'll all end up in the same place, but there are exceptions akin to winning the lottery. Our neighbors kid is a u15 that is 100% going to be drafted, likely in the 1st round, of the OHL priority draft *if* he continues his development curve for one more year. That will be, by far, the highest OHL pick from my town of 8,000, ever. We've never had a NHL player from our town. Never. 125 years. (We do have a recent Yale captain to our name fuck yeah). 

What people over look, or don't care to acknowledge, are the lessons playing sport at a high-ish youth level teach you, the bonds it forges, and the arms length opportunities it will present you later in life. I don't know many local guys that played PJHL or OJHL here that didn't get a step up at age 20 over others. *wink wink nudge nudge*

Anyways, my reasons for pushing this kid are both selfish and benevolent. I have a 15 yo that wanted to play House League, and was only good enough to play House League. Cool. It's fun. Not my thing, but sure, lol.

Now, I have a kid that is very good, but also very young. He will get run down by much better athletes (Sorry, son, my bad) very quickly unless he outworks them. He gets that, and he wants it. Wants it bad. Until that changes, I gotta support that shit.

Very good question. I think it Depends. Forward? Goalie? D man? What level of talent? A local rep team or NHL aspirations?

A PJHL player is a very talented hockey player, and they'll never even sniff the ECHL. You would be very fortunate to develop in to even a PJHL level player. 

Goalies follow really crazy development curves. Just look at Logan Thompson.

I probably say it's much earlier than others would, but there are also always surprises.

I don't buy in to "He'll burn out by pee wee" mantra that's so popular. That was never my experience. All the best players I played with when I was 7 were still very good players at 19. All the best kids that played with my 15 yo at age 7 are still the best, they've just been joined by other later bloomers.

If you're talking NHL talent? I think if your kid is really struggling at the U8 or U9 level, it's probably not in the cards, but pure old fashioned hard work can close a lot of gaps.

I don't even think they hand out many full rides? Not in my experience, anyways.

US college just seems like a class competition. 

Probably better off leveraging the relationships and lessons you make playing sport to set you up for a great start in life, college or not. 

I know I'd rather take a 5k paycheque from a junior C team, and have the handshake trades job that'll pay you 75k at age 18. Many of those success stories where I live. Not many NHL players.

2 hours ago, Albatrosss said:

one more step to a marvelous NHL career.  

Don't be bitter.

Our goal is to just be the goalie on the Local "A" team. The rest is gravy.

Well, we're a wrap on the season. U8 was pretty awful, but we found a way to make.the most of it, lots of unsanctioned 3v3 tournaments, but also lots of work on the side.

I'm pretty happy with development. He would be even further along if he listened to me, but that's the way it goes. We made the team on our #1 spring hockey choice, which was nice, and we're starting some work with former Ranger property, and Benoit Allaire disciple Jason Missiaen this weekend. Pure goalie power skating.

One more year of fake hockey then the real fun starts.

Any other '16 kids attached the to board, let me know, you never know where they'll meet.

1 hour ago, Ozzy said:

 

You must have a rocket car, something that goes airborne, Dunny!!

 

It takes me 2 hours with traffic, and I'm 50 miles away by car in Suffolk County!!  LOL

That's what the Genessee County Sheriff said, too

1 hour ago, Pete said:

I call BS. 

Sorry, that was from my bros house last time we went. 7 hours and 22 minutes on Google Maps from St Catherine's.

I'd be more like 9.

29 minutes ago, Albatrosss said:

and these prove what?  first one was posted 12 years ago about him being in New york.  the other posted 10 years ago NYR BABBY.  not sure what that even means.  did he go to a game that day or met the team? 

 

the players have to say things like "this is the best place to play", "i always wanted to play for this team", etc etc.  They get asked these sort of questions by the press and they have to give a correct answer.  What are they going to say--"i really wanted to be traded and play for the rangers but they traded me to Florida instead"? The fans will go apeshit.  

One thing when its someone like Quick or Fox who are from the area and been Ranger fans growing up say they want to play for the rangers, but Roslovic grew up in Ohio.  Unless, of course he's like @Dunny who is all the way in western Canada and god knows why he's a ranger fan. 

I live in Southern Ontario, like a 8 hour drive from MSG. You literally mailed a bunch of shitty Russian beer to my  house  

Very classy player. I get Nemchinov vibes.

I'm watching guys like Justin Falk just completely bail on dump ins, saying nah, fuck this shit  take the puck, and people want to change that? 

You can't have one, without the other.

I can't wait until this guy calms down and starts playing like Mark Jankowski.

16 minutes ago, Scott said:

Message sent. It was terrible and hopefully he'll learn from it quickly.

 

Really didn't like the waving part either as he was leaving the ice, after knowing the guy he it had to leave the ice. Somebody said it yesterday, pretty sure it wasn't appreciated by the org.  I like the energy he brings, hope he can learn from it. 

 

I don't think it's smart for him to take on every fight at any time, I think he has a lot to learn there (fighting wise in general) but I do think he should of answered the bell last night. I don't want the guy to turn into a clown like Avery was (imo). More importantly if the shoe was on the other foot last night I would be livid if the guy we had a huge issue with didn't answer the bell and ended up doing what he did.  Sure he got his laughs and wave in. A huge forced opportunity to sit/watch and learn from.

 

I'm hoping to see him grow and be around for a while. Yesterday was a big mis-step.

Grow into what? He's the most effective he's ever going to be, RIGHT NOW.

I spend 36 hours of my 40 office hours researching U8 hockey teams, and planning appropriate activities for a 7 year old goalie 

Adjustments will likely lead to reduced effectiveness. Both are inevitable with this type of player. I'm just going to enjoy the ride, as I dint think it's going to be a long one.

Personally, he doesn't play in R1 unless you need to shift momentum. I just keep him in my back pocket until you think you need to shift a series, then he's in the lineup and told to play exactly how he has been. Full bore. Hold nothing back.

If you want a neutered version of Rempe, just play Edstrom.

All the best Jimmy. Was hoping we'd see an update  so thanks for that.

It's going to be fun as we all get old together, here. 

1 minute ago, Kevin said:

I want to find the Hughes’ skating coach for my kid. Holy shit they can all move.

Deep in the Everglades, Bridget Wolf has a fancy compressor set up.

Really great of Rempe to get Wennberg some extended PK integration time. Guy just keeps giving.

Yeah, news flash, he's going to have a reputation lol, that's the fun part. He wasn't going to play like this and maintain some kind of awe shucks persona lol

Do you want the player, or do you not want the player? I'll take whatever it is he's doing.