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Brought to us by the same dude who also questioned whether Adam Fox was worth two 2nd round picks lol.

To get back to Panarin, I don't think there's one particular change you can credit, but he has undoubtedly done a ton of work to rehabilitate himself. Nikita Zadorov mentioned in an interview this summer that Panarin has OCD and there were a number of reports that Panarin became a bit of a hockey shut-in during the offseason. Link It's pretty obvious he's gone over tape because he's not falling into many of the same habits he'd display under Gallant and the latter part of Quinn's tenure. He's shooting with consistency, he's working incredibly hard down low and forcing turnovers, he's backchecking meaningfully, etc. You can also see it by just looking at him but he added extra weight this summer. Link There's something to be said for the chemistry he's developed with Lafreniere and the consistency with which they've played together. It seemed like Panarin at least had a different right wing every few games, and then would always end up with Zibanejad for spurts as well. Laviolette has also put Panarin in situations that work to his benefit — Panarin has a team-high 82.69 Offensive Zone Start % this year compared to 50.77 last year. For comparison, Jimmy Vesey had 52.63 OZS last year and is at a team-low 13.16 this year. There's just a much clearer delineation of roles under Laviolette than under Gallant. Link There's also the fact that Laviolette's system plays into Panarin's strengths. Laviolette's system allows the Rangers to attack with numbers which was often a fault of Gallant's. Panarin isn't left curling to the boards without a trailer or someone he can wrap the puck around the far side to, he actually has options. This Rangers team actually knows how to provide support options because they've practiced it. Panarin has done a ton of work to rejuvenate himself while Laviolette has done everything to help maximize Panarin's usage and contributions.

And that was the second iteration of a trade Panarin thread. There was a trade Panarin thread that started the offseason he signed before he had even played a game as a Ranger.

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First off, welcome to the forum. Secondly, given you're new there are likely a number of discussions you haven't been exposed to. One such discussion was a long-running thread musing about trading Panarin. That's not a consensus belief, but one that a few posters considered given his postseason struggles and various other reasons. Thirdly, I'd recommend that you don't come out guns blazing despite not understanding the context of a post. It's a poor way to ingratiate yourself here and we don't really go for calling comments the "dumbest I've ever read."

I haven't tuned in since the season opener, so I can't comment on his game, but it's been a slow start for Othmann. After coming out hot, he's at 2-7-9 in 15 games. 7 of his 9 points are on the PP and only 4 of his points are primary. Othmann leads Hartford with 48 shots on goal, though, and is shooting just 4.2% so it could be that he just hasn't found his shot yet. Hopefully, he starts to assert himself a bit more in the coming weeks.

They have two 3-day breaks in December, 8 days off for the All-Star break in January + early February, and then a 4-day break in March that precedes the final stretch of games. Following that final break, there's a game every other day with the exception of two back-to-backs. It's going to be a nonstop run into the playoffs.

Agreed Oz. In years prior I'd be more afraid of a break killing any kind of momentum, but I think this coaching staff knows how to keep these guys engaged. I believe they have two more breaks of similar length throughout the season so they might as well get used to maximizing it. Could always happen in the playoffs.

Vince has covered the difference in intensity and focus of practices multiple times throughout his articles and on his podcast. Other beats have covered it as well. I don't feel like digging too deep to find it, you can do that on your own. One of the biggest complaints about GG was that his practices were too short and lacked any real direction. https://www.lohud.com/story/sports/nhl/rangers/2023/10/14/rangers-lineup-blue-jackets-peter-laviolette-practice/71161198007/ https://nypost.com/2023/10/27/sports/peter-laviolettes-constant-intensity-translating-to-rangers-practices/ If you followed enough of the information coming out about Gallant over the summer, you'd understand how hands-off he was throughout his tenure.

He was pointless in his first two so his 11 points have come in a 6-game point streak.

Nah bro. Don't get me started. A dumb move with numerous compounding consequences.

They were on the same line for most of the season and played on the PP together.

REGULAR SEASON GAME #11 — 11/04/23 @ Location: Xcel Energy Center — St. Paul, MN Time: 8:00 PM TV: MSG, BSWI, BSNX Radio: 98.7 FM, 107.1 FM, 710 AM, Sirius XM USEFUL LINKS: Coverage: @NYP_Brooksie • MollieeWalkerr • @ColinSNewsday • @vzmercogliano • @StapeAthletic Team Official: @NYRangers • NYR on Instagram Official Team Websites: nhl.com/rangers • nhl.com/wild GameCenter - here Standings: RECORD: POSITION: ROW: P%: HOME: AWAY: S/O: LAST 10: STREAK: 8-2-0 (16 Points) 1st — Metropolitan 8 .800 2-1-0 6-1-0 0-0 8-2-0 W6 Team Statistics: DIFF: GF/GP: GA/GP: PP%: PK%: Corsi For (CF)%: +11 (4th) 3.00 (18th) 1.90 (2nd) 32.4% (3rd) 81.8% (13th) 48.1% (21st) Team Leaders: Goals: Assists: Points: +/-: PIM: TOI/G (D): TOI/G (F): Chris Kreider (7) Artemi Panarin (11) Artemi Panarin (16) K'Andre Miller (+7) Jacob Trouba (18) K'Andre Miller (21:23) Mika Zibanejad (19:49) Starting Lineup:^ Chris Kreider A / Mika Zibanejad A / Kaapo Kakko Artemi Panarin A / Vincent Trocheck / Alexis Lafreniere Will Cuylle / Jonny Brodzinski / Blake Wheeler Tyler Pitlick / Nick Bonino / Jimmy Vesey Ryan Lindgren / Erik Gustafsson Jacob Trouba C / K'Andre Miller Zac Jones / Braden Schneider ^Subject to change Starting Goaltender: Jonathan Quick GS: REC: SV%: GAA: SO: 2 2-0-0 .982 0.41 1 Healthy Scratches: Connor Mackey Injuries, Suspensions, Misc: Adam Fox A [LTIR] — Lower-body injury Filip Chytil [IR] — Upper-body injury Igor Shesterkin [DTD] — Lower-body injury Barclay Goodrow A [OUT] — Paternity leave Standings: RECORD: POSITION: ROW: P%: HOME: AWAY: S/O: LAST 10: STREAK: 3-5-2 (8 Points) 7th — Central 3 .400 2-2-1 1-3-1 0-1 3-5-2 L2 Team Statistics: DIFF: GF/GP: GA/GP: PP%: PK%: Corsi For (CF)%: -8 (27th) 3.50 (7th) 4.20 (31st) 15.8% (19th) 63.6% (32nd) 47.4% (24th) Team Leaders: Goals: Assists: Points: +/-: PIM: TOI/G (D): TOI/G (F): Ryan Hartman (6) Mats Zuccarello (8) Kirill Kaprizov, Joel Eriksson Ek, Mats Zuccarello (10) Jonas Brodin (+7) Dakota Mermis (21) Brock Faber (23:37) Kirill Kaprizov (22:09) Starting Lineup:^ Kirill Kaprizov / Marco Rossi / Matthew Boldy Marcus Johansson / Ryan Hartman / Mats Zuccarello Marcus Foligno / Joel Eriksson Ek / Pat Maroon Brandon Duhaime / Connor Dewar / Vinni Lettieri Jonas Brodin / Brock Faber Jacob Middleton / Dakota Mermis Jon Merrill / Calen Addison ^Subject to change Starting Goaltender: Filip Gustavsson GS: REC: SV%: GAA: SO: 6 2-3-1 .882 4.48 1 Healthy Scratches: Daemon Hunt Injuries, Suspensions, Misc: Jared Spurgeon [LTIR] — Upper-body injury Alex Goligoski [LTIR] — Lower-body injury Frederik Gaudreau [DTD] — Shoulder injury QUOTE(S) TO NOTE: "I know that he was a capable goal scorer last year for Hartford. He came in and you watch him in games and the chances he gets in practice and the way he can finish, there's definitely that potential for him to score goals and create up here, as well. I like his straight-ahead speed. I like his physicality. He's pretty smart and pretty reliable defensively. So, there are a lot of positives. And that’s obviously a big goal. A big goal at the right time in the third period. It gets us a win and gets us two points" — Peter Laviolette on Will Cuylle GIF to LOL:

Jones-Schneider is an absolute disaster. Anything but that.

Have you actually listened to or read anything about the locker room under Gallant? He didn't talk to players. How is he making them happy so that results followed? He didn't like having personal conversations with players, he rarely gave speeches in the locker room. Explain what he was doing to actually bring them together beyond their success? The Rangers barely made additions for Gallant? They made additions like Goodrow, Reaves, Nemeth, Carpenter, etc. for Gallant. They had back-to-back historic trade deadlines by acquiring players like Patrick Kane, Vladimir Tarasenko, Andrew Copp, Frank Vatrano, etc. He's had one of the most talented rosters the Rangers have ever had. He never had solutions when the Rangers weren't just rolling the opposition. He let the players do their own thing until it became an actual detriment to the team. What did the team end up seeking out? Actual help. Coaching. Communication. They want to be provided with the tools so that they can do the work themselves. Gallant was never going to provide that because Gallant approached the job differently.

How are you quantifying that? The team may have been looser and happier on account of being a more successful team under a less vocal coach, but there was a big difference in togetherness? One of the biggest grievances about the teams under Quinn and Gallant was a lack of identity and culture. That's wholly different under Laviolette. Guys might have liked each other under Gallant, but they're actually learning how to support each other under Laviolette.

REGULAR SEASON GAME #10 — 11/02/23 vs Location: Madison Square Garden — New York, NY Time: 7:00 PM TV: MSG, BSSO Radio: 98.7 FM, 107.1 FM, 710 AM, Sirius XM USEFUL LINKS: Coverage: @NYP_Brooksie • MollieeWalkerr • @ColinSNewsday • @vzmercogliano • @StapeAthletic Team Official: @NYRangers • NYR on Instagram Official Team Websites: nhl.com/rangers • nhl.com/hurricanes GameCenter - here Standings: RECORD: POSITION: ROW: P%: HOME: AWAY: S/O: LAST 10: STREAK: 7-2-0 (14 Points) 1st — Metropolitan 7 .778 1-1-0 6-1-0 0-0 7-2-0 W5 Team Statistics: DIFF: GF/GP: GA/GP: PP%: PK%: Corsi For (CF)%: +10 (3rd) 3.11 (18th) 2.00 (2nd) 34.4% (2nd) 83.9% (10th) 49.2% (15th) Team Leaders: Goals: Assists: Points: +/-: PIM: TOI/G (D): TOI/G (F): Chris Kreider (6) Artemi Panarin (10) Artemi Panarin (15) K'Andre Miller (+6) Jacob Trouba (18) Adam Fox (22:44) Mika Zibanejad (19:34) Starting Lineup:^ Chris Kreider A / Mika Zibanejad A / Kaapo Kakko Artemi Panarin A / Filip Chytil / Alexis Lafreniere Will Cuylle / Vincent Trocheck / Blake Wheeler Barclay Goodrow A / Nick Bonino / Jimmy Vesey Ryan Lindgren / Adam Fox A Jacob Trouba C / K'Andre Miller Erik Gustafsson / Braden Schneider ^Subject to change Starting Goaltender: Igor Shesterkin GS: REC: SV%: GAA: SO: 7 5-2-0 .905 2.56 0 Healthy Scratches: Tyler Pitlick, Zac Jones Injuries, Suspensions, Misc: N/A Standings: RECORD: POSITION: ROW: P%: HOME: AWAY: S/O: LAST 10: STREAK: 6-4-0 (12 Points) 2nd — Metropolitan 5 .600 3-0-0 3-4-0 1-0 6-4-0 W3 Team Statistics: DIFF: GF/GP: GA/GP: PP%: PK%: Corsi For (CF)%: 0 (16th) 3.60 (6th) 3.70 (29th) 25.0% (8th) 75.0% (21st) 59.7% (1st) Team Leaders: Goals: Assists: Points: +/-: PIM: TOI/G (D): TOI/G (F): Teuvo Teravainen (8) Brady Skjei, Stefan Noesen, Jesperi Kotkaniemi (6) Jesperi Kotkaniemi (10) Jaccob Slavin (+5) Brendan Lemieux (31) Brent Burns (22:00) Sebastian Aho (20:23) Starting Lineup:^ Andrei Svechnikov / Sebastian Aho / Seth Jarvis Michael Bunting / Jesperi Kotkaniemi / Teuvo Teravainen Jordan Martinook / Jordan Staal / Jesper Fast Stefan Noesen / Jack Drury / Martin Necas Jaccob Slavin / Brent Burns Brady Skjei / Tony DeAngelo Dmitry Orlov / Jalen Chatfield ^Subject to change Starting Goaltender: Frederik Andersen GS: REC: SV%: GAA: SO: 5 4-0-0 .888 3.06 0 Healthy Scratches: Brendan Lemieux Injuries, Suspensions, Misc: Brett Pesce [OUT] — Lower-body injury Ryan Suzuki [DTD] — Shoulder injury QUOTE(S) TO NOTE: "From a defensive standpoint, I do think that the guys have made a commitment to coming back and making it difficult to play through the neutral zone − and then even more to the point, in our end. If you can do that, you can win a lot of hockey games." — Peter Laviolette VIDEO to LOL:

The offense will come at some point once the systems become second nature. I think they're still playing a little conservatively and without the true counter-punch ability that the system can allow for.

The Rangers just aren't producing at 5v5 in general. Is it really just a first line problem? Panarin has the most 5v5 points at 6 followed by Chyil at 4 and then Miller and Lafreniere at 3 points. Everyone else is at 2 or below. This is still a team that's running its offense entirely through the powerplay. They still haven't figured out how to translate their defensive play into consistent offense.

REGULAR SEASON GAME #9 — 10/30/23 @ Location: Canada Life Centre — Winnipeg, MB Time: 7:30 PM TV: MSG Radio: 98.7 FM, 107.1 FM, 710 AM, Sirius XM USEFUL LINKS: Coverage: @NYP_Brooksie • MollieeWalkerr • @ColinSNewsday • @vzmercogliano • @StapeAthletic Team Official: @NYRangers • NYR on Instagram Official Team Websites: nhl.com/rangers • nhl.com/jets GameCenter - here Standings: RECORD: POSITION: ROW: P%: HOME: AWAY: S/O: LAST 10: STREAK: 6-2-0 (12 Points) 1st — Metropolitan 5 .750 1-1-0 5-1-0 0-0 6-2-0 W4 Team Statistics: DIFF: GF/GP: GA/GP: PP%: PK%: Corsi For (CF)%: +9 (4th) 3.13 (15th) 2.00 (2nd) 34.5% (2nd) 82.1% (12th) 50.6% (14th) Team Leaders: Goals: Assists: Points: +/-: PIM: TOI/G (D): TOI/G (F): Chris Kreider (5) Artemi Panarin (8) Artemi Panarin (11) Erik Gustafsson (+6) Jacob Trouba (18) Adam Fox (22:39) Vincent Trocheck (19:15) Starting Lineup:^ Chris Kreider A / Mika Zibanejad A / Kaapo Kakko Artemi Panarin A / Filip Chytil / Alexis Lafreniere Will Cuylle / Vincent Trocheck / Blake Wheeler Barclay Goodrow A / Nick Bonino / Jimmy Vesey Ryan Lindgren / Adam Fox A Jacob Trouba C / K'Andre Miller Erik Gustafsson / Braden Schneider ^Subject to change Starting Goaltender: Igor Shesterkin GS: REC: SV%: GAA: SO: 6 4-2-0 .900 2.70 0 Healthy Scratches: Tyler Pitlick, Zac Jones Injuries, Suspensions, Misc: N/A Standings: RECORD: POSITION: ROW: P%: HOME: AWAY: S/O: LAST 10: STREAK: 4-3-1 (9 Points) 3rd — Central 4 .250 2-2-0 2-1-1 0-1 4-3-0 OT1 Team Statistics: DIFF: GF/GP: GA/GP: PP%: PK%: Corsi For (CF)%: -1 (22nd) 3.38 (12th) 3.38 (25th) 12.9% (24th) 72.4% (27th) 53.9% (7th) Team Leaders: Goals: Assists: Points: +/-: PIM: TOI/G (D): TOI/G (F): Kyle Connor (5) Josh Morrisey (6) Kyle Connor, Josh Morrisey, Mason Appleton, Mark Scheifele (7) Adam Lowry, Dylan DeMelo (+5) Dylan Samberg (27) Dylan Samberg (24:56) Kyle Connor (21:33) Starting Lineup:^ Kyle Connor / Mark Scheifele / Alex Iafallo Cole Perfetti / Vlad Namestnikov / Nikolaj Ehlers Nino Niederreiter / Adam Lowry / Mason Appleton Morgan Barron / Rasmus Kupari / David Gustafsson Josh Morrisey / Dylan DeMelo Brenden Dillon / Neal Pionk Dylan Samberg / Nate Schmidt ^Subject to change Starting Goaltender: Connor Hellebuyck GS: REC: SV%: GAA: SO: 6 4-2-0 .899 2.99 0 Healthy Scratches: N/A Injuries, Suspensions, Misc: Gabe Vilardi [IR] — Sprained MCL QUOTE(S) TO NOTE: "It's hard not to play a full 60 minutes with that guy kicking in the back end. Shesty made a couple of unbelievable saves and really kept us in that game." — K'Andre Miller GIF to LOL:

And also apparently injured. So nothing has changed.

REGULAR SEASON GAME #8 — 10/28/23 @ Location: Rogers Arena — Vancouver, BC Time: 10:00 PM TV: MSG Radio: 98.7 FM, 107.1 FM, 710 AM, Sirius XM USEFUL LINKS: Coverage: @NYP_Brooksie • MollieeWalkerr • @ColinSNewsday • @vzmercogliano • @StapeAthletic Team Official: @NYRangers • NYR on Instagram Official Team Websites: nhl.com/rangers • nhl.com/canucks GameCenter - here Standings: RECORD: POSITION: ROW: P%: HOME: AWAY: S/O: LAST 10: STREAK: 5-2-0 (10 Points) 1st — Metropolitan 5 .714 1-1-0 4-1-0 0-0 5-2-0 W3 Team Statistics: DIFF: GF/GP: GA/GP: PP%: PK%: Corsi For (CF)%: +8 (5th) 3.00 (16th) 1.86 (2nd) 30.4% (6th) 81.8% (14th) 51.2% (13th) Team Leaders: Goals: Assists: Points: +/-: PIM: TOI/G (D): TOI/G (F): Chris Kreider (5) Artemi Panarin (7) Artemi Panarin (10) Erik Gustafsson (+6) Jacob Trouba (16) Adam Fox (22:22) Vincent Trocheck (18:45) Starting Lineup:^ Chris Kreider A / Mika Zibanejad A / Kaapo Kakko Artemi Panarin A / Filip Chytil / Alexis Lafreniere Will Cuylle / Vincent Trocheck / Blake Wheeler Barclay Goodrow A / Nick Bonino / Jimmy Vesey Ryan Lindgren / Adam Fox A Jacob Trouba C / K'Andre Miller Erik Gustafsson / Braden Schneider ^Subject to change Starting Goaltender: Igor Shesterkin GS: REC: SV%: GAA: SO: 5 3-2-0 .897 2.66 0 Healthy Scratches: Tyler Pitlick, Zac Jones Injuries, Suspensions, Misc: N/A Standings: RECORD: POSITION: ROW: P%: HOME: AWAY: S/O: LAST 10: STREAK: 4-2-0 (8 Points) 2nd — Pacific 4 .250 1-0-0 3-2-0 0-0 4-2-0 W2 Team Statistics: DIFF: GF/GP: GA/GP: PP%: PK%: Corsi For (CF)%: +8 (6th) 3.83 (7th) 2.50 (7th) 35.3% (3rd) 78.3% (16th) 47.9% (25th) Team Leaders: Goals: Assists: Points: +/-: PIM: TOI/G (D): TOI/G (F): Brock Boeser (6) Elias Pettersson (8) Elias Pettersson (10) Quinn Hughes (+8) Sam Lafferty (14) Filip Hronek (25:27) J.T. Miller (21:23) Starting Lineup:^ Andrei Kuzmenko / Elias Pettersson / Ilya Mikheyev Phil DiGiuseppe / J.T. Miller / Brock Boeser Dakota Joshua / Pius Suter / Conor Garland Anthony Beauvillier / Sam Lafferty / Nils Hoglander Quinn Hughes / Filip Hronek Ian Cole / Mark Friedman Carson Soucy / Tyler Myers ^Subject to change Starting Goaltender: Casey DeSmith GS: REC: SV%: GAA: SO: 2 2-0-0 .938 2.73 0 Healthy Scratches: N/A Injuries, Suspensions, Misc: Tucker Poolman [IR] — Undisclosed Teddy Blueger [DTD] — Leg injury QUOTE(S) TO NOTE: "When they're moving, they're really dangerous. They read off of each other well. I think there's a good mix of different types of players in there. They were on point tonight. They had a really strong game" — Peter Laviolette on the Panarin-Chytil-Lafreniere line GIF to LOL: